anxiety formula

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula. When I go

to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since kid. I have

tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian, passionflower,

skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted instead, as a diarretic on

my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanks

Take care,

Renee

[Guest guest]

I found this:

Homeopathy

 

Arsenicum Album, Arsenic Trioxide

In the past, small doses were given to treat syphilis, anthrax,and improve

stamina. Arsenic was first proved by Hahneman.

Symptoms:

Fear being alone, anxiety leads to restlessness and irritability and a need to

do everything meticulously.

 

and you can find in health food stores under homeopathy

[Guest guest]

Cut sugar and caffine out of your diet. Eat healthier and be true to

yourself always.

 

 

-

" rja86webtvnet " <reneeandjerry

<herbal remedies >

Friday, August 02, 2002 11:12 AM

[herbal remedies] anxiety formula

 

 

> Hi everyone,

> I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula. When

I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since kid.

I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian,

passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted instead,

as a diarretic on my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanks

> Take care,

> Renee

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you tried cal-mag? tom

 

-

rja86webtvnet

herbal remedies

Friday, August 02, 2002 11:12 AM

[herbal remedies] anxiety formula

Hi everyone,I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula. When I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since kid. I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian, passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted instead, as a diarretic on my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanksTake care,ReneeFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Magnesium, a regular bedtime routine and time so your body knows its time to

sleep, early rising, warm milk in the evening. Warm bath/ shower before bed,

including giving yourself a good massage with oil/ moisturiser. Essential oils

(chamomile, lavender). I put one drop on my pillow. No violent TV shows in the

evening. Physical exercise during the day. Guided visualisation tapes, regular

meditation.

love

Peela

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/2/2002 11:14:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, reneeandjerry writes:

 

 

Hi everyone,

I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula. When I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since kid. I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian, passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted instead, as a diarretic on my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanks

 

 

I also have a very hard time sleeping & getting to sleep. I have tried everything as far as medications, then, herbal remedies...I try to stretch myself out on the floor and relax myself (no noise, kids, annoying people, etc...) once my mind has settled down, it is usually easier for me to fall asleep. It helps, but is not always effective...

LostFaith2002

[Guest guest]

Have you tried magnetic therapy. I made my magnetic rings form myself and my family. It helped me to sleep better. But what was amazing about them is that my muscle ache was gone over night. I pulled arm muscle when I worked out and had pain for 6 days. When I had my rings the first night I could not believe in the morning I could lift my arm without pain. My cousin was riding bicycle for 4 hr. one day and he couldn't walk normally next day. I gave him rings and next day he was fine and he slept much better.

You can make your own.

[Guest guest]

I don't know what degree of anxiety you experience. If it's severe enough, the

typical things that work for most people will be of little or any help. Though

nothing has completely helped, my experience has shown that Valerian has been

the best for insomnia. It's also good for general anxiety, but can make you very

drowsy. Kava is probably better for anxiety and almost as good for insomnia

(only use a standardized extract). I used Kava for both and it did make a

difference. I only took it at night, as I didn't want to depend on anything to

" get me through the day " . Increasing anxiety and stress levels made me wonder if

there was anything even better. I've since discovered Scullcap. It works well

in getting rid of unwanted thoughts. The one thing about this herb is that it's

said to sometimes be adulterated with Germander which is known to cause liver

damage. For this reason, I only use the Nature's Way brand, as they assured me

their product is pure. If you try any of these herbs, just remember to use

common sense and not take it along with alcohol or if you currently take any

other medication (this could very well be the reason Kava has been linked to

some cases of liver trouble). It's also suggested to avoid driving after taking

these herbs.

[Guest guest]

Here is how you should put magnets. I use red nail polish to indicate S poll on each one. I buy in Law''s 1/2" round ceramic magnets. After nail polish is dry I tape them in a ring with regular Scotch tape and tape together with velcro tape to make a ring. I marked Right with R and Left with L. When I go to slip I put them on following this chart. First night I slept so well I did not hear my husband getting up at 5:30 to go to work. Usually I get up at the same time. It was 7:30 when I get up. Next night I slept well but I couldn't get up in the morning. I was so heavy and I would stay in bed all day. I felt heavy all day. It was the next night again. But after that I sleep well and no bed dreams. I used to have very bed dreams. Two months ago my cousin had fire in the house and their five years old daughter died in the fire. They are in my house now till they move in another home and I couldn't sleep well, and I had very bad dreams. Magnets helped me a lot.

 

 

 

 

The above diagram shows how you can make your own Eternal Life Rings. You can use ceramic or rare earth magnets. You can find ceramic magnets in every hardware store. Ceramic works good, but you can purchase higher quality magnets from a scientific project specialty store. (Example: Edmund's Scientific) Since it is an eternal life device, it is better to purchase good quality, powerful magnets for the sake of your great health. You can use plastic or plastic tape to make the rings.

 

Don't use conductive material: metal for the brace of the ring because metal will consume the magnetic flow of the magnet that is supposed to go into your finger; the brace of the ring should be nonconductive. If you want, you can buy the rings from us. Our rings are professionally made, one-size-fits-all in plastic housing.

Watch out for the polarities. If you put the rings on with the wrong polarity, you could get sick within hours! Use a compass to indicate North and South pole if necessary. A compass's North needle always points to the magnet's South pole.

[Guest guest]

I've found taking a homeopathic product called " Calms Forte " from a

company called Hyland's is very effective in relaxing me at night.

 

You can also take magnesium citrate as it absorbs very well compared

to other magnesiums.

 

Another product you can try is 5-HTP.

 

5-HTP, or 5-hydroxytryptophan, is the immediate precursor of

serotonin. Low levels of serotonin are associated with sleep

problems, depression, anxiety, compulsive disorders (including eating

disorders), restless leg syndrome, migraines, fibromyalgia, and low

pain threshold. Many people that are afflicted with one of those

conditions often have others, which has led some researchers to label

them collectively as " Low Serotonin Syndrome " .

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies, " rja86webtvnet " <reneeandjerry@w...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety

formula. When I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been

like that since kid. I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a

formula with valerian, passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it

didn't help, but acted instead, as a diarretic on my system. Any

help would be appreciated! thanks

> Take care,

> Renee

[Guest guest]

May I ask how you make your own and is it important which side of the magnet

faces the body? I've heard alot of goof things about magnetic therapy but I

don't know any of the basics. Your email is so interesting! Thankyou

 

Glenda

 

 

-

<jalisic579

<herbal remedies >

Saturday, August 03, 2002 2:52 PM

Re: [herbal remedies] anxiety formula

 

 

> Have you tried magnetic therapy. I made my magnetic rings form myself and

my

> family. It helped me to sleep better. But what was amazing about them is

> that my muscle ache was gone over night. I pulled arm muscle when I

worked

> out and had pain for 6 days. When I had my rings the first night I could

not

> believe in the morning I could lift my arm without pain. My cousin was

> riding bicycle for 4 hr. one day and he couldn't walk normally next day.

I

> gave him rings and next day he was fine and he slept much better.

> You can make your own.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Renee,

Is this possibly not a physical problem?

Maybe you have too many incomplete actions/situations keeping you awake at

night?

Try writing down all the things that worry you/keep your attention, and then

start working through the list one by one, to get all these situations

resolved. Start with the one you feel most comfortable with in handling, and

then when you've handled that one, tackle the next one, and so on. Don't

worry about how long it takes. Just working on it, and getting some progress

does wonders for your mind-racing-nights.

 

Also very handy is to keep a notebook to hand by your bed, so that you can

write down your thoughts/ideas about something. This way it doesn't keep

spinning through your mind. I tried it, and it works!

 

Bodywise, I myself have three things I vary for sleeping:

warm milk with honey (all organic) or

camomile tea or

CalMag solution

 

All of these work, but for me only if I take them on an empty stomach, about

30 mins before sleeping time.

They don't seem to work if taken on a full stomach.

 

Not recommended for a regular basis, but in an emergency you can try reading

something which is difficult to understand - that will get you to sleep in

no time :-)

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards

Lisa

-

" rja86webtvnet " <reneeandjerry

<herbal remedies >

Saturday, August 03, 2002 6:55 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: anxiety formula

 

 

> Thank you everyone for your replies. I have tried almost all of the

mentioned things, with not much relief. I guess I just can't rest my mind

at night. I have had my thyroid checked also. I may try all of your

suggestions again, and I thank you again for your help.

> Have a great weekend.

> Renee

> ---

>

> herbal remedies, LostFaith2002@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 8/2/2002 11:14:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > reneeandjerry@w... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula.

When

> > > I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since

kid.

> > > I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian,

> > > passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted

instead,

> > > as a diarretic on my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanks

> > >

> >

> > I also have a very hard time sleeping & getting to sleep. I have tried

> > everything as far as medications, then, herbal remedies...I try to

stretch

> > myself out on the floor and relax myself (no noise, kids, annoying

people,

> > etc...) once my mind has settled down, it is usually easier for me to

fall

> > asleep. It helps, but is not always effective...

> > LostFaith2002

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I posted using my husband's account last night, this is

Thessa.

As far as I'm concerned, the only benefit from standardization is the

fact that you know how much of a certain component of the herb you

are getting when you buy the stuff. But at this point in our herbal

business renaissance I hardly see this as valuable since it creates a

false idea in the consumer that a particular product is in it's most

efficient state. For example, " Ok, here I have a standardized

extract for St. John's Wort, my depression will be cured. And if

it's not, then St. John's Wort doesn't work " . In fact I have read

that traditionally St. John's Wort wasn't even used for depression.

This doesn't mean it won't work for depression (as demonstrated by

several studies), just that narrowing it's indications down to

depression is failing to see the whole picture. For example, perhaps

since St. John's Wort works to repair nerves and helps relax muscle

spasms, perhaps it's effective in depression due to nervous system

irritation/damage or tension. But note this description (especially

the last line) of st john's wort from http://www.magdalin.com/herbal/

*******************************************

ST.JOHN'S WORT HYPERICUM PERFORATUM

A tincture of the flowers in spirit of wine, is commanded against the

melancholy and madness.

A perennial plant growing to about two feet (60 cm) high with yellow

flowers which yield a reddish juice like blood when bruised. Also

called Perforate Stjohn's Wort.

Where to find it: Shady woods and copses, meadows and by roadsides.

Flowering time: Midsummer.

Astrology: It is under the celestial sign of Leo and the dominion of

the Sun.

Medicinal virtues: Aperient, detersive and diuretic. It is helpful

against tertian and quartan agues, is alexipharmic and destroys

worms. It is an excellent vulnerary plant. Outwardly it is of great

service in bruises, contusions and wounds, especially in the nervous

parts, if it be boiled in wine.

Made into an ointment, it dissolves swellings and closes up the lips

of wounds. The decoction of the herb and flowers, but especially of

the seeds, drunk in wine, with the juice of Knotgrass, helps all

manner of vomiting and spitting of blood. It is also good for those

who cannot make water, and are bitten or stung by venomous creatures.

Two drams (3.5 g) of the seed made into powder and drank in broth,

expels choler or congealed blood in the stomach. The seed taken in

warm wine is recommended for sciatica, failing-sickness, and the

palsy.

Modern uses: Stjohn's Wort has an affinity for nerve endings and is

used in all cases where there is nerve irritation, whether it be a

tickly cough, referred pain, neuritis or neuralgia. It is

expectorant, diuretic and sedative. In dry irritating coughs, it is

combined with Colt's Foot and Marsh Mallow. It is usually added to

all prescriptions where the condition is painful. For wounds and

boils, the ointment, made by digesting the herb in white wax and

straining, can be combined with ointment of Marsh Mallow. For skin

diseases where there is inflammation, it is combined with Chickweed

ointment. The infused oil made from the flowers is recommended as an

application for external ulcers and wounds. Preparations are

available from herbalists.

St John's Wort is contraindicated in depression.

*****************************************

 

If you want to take a specific herbal component, like hypericin from

st john's wort, and be guaranteed that you are getting a certain

percentage of hypericin, then go take a drug. That's how they are

made, and using an herb like a drug doesn't make it natural healing.

 

Here's a clip of discussion on just this subject from Henriette's

herbal at http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed/faqs/medi-2-4-hypericum.html

*******************************************

On alt.folklore.herbs in Oct 97:

>(somebody) wrote:

>>I gathered my own SJW when it was flowering, (snip)

 

(somebody else) replied:

>You don't know how strong a dose you are receiving in your homemade

tincture. St. John's Wort keeps the serotonin in your brain from

breaking down so rapidly. This is called a selective serotonin re-

uptake inhibitor (SSRI) and the level of serotonin in your brain goes

up. This may be good for people who have low levels of serotonin such

as depressives but it is not good for people with normal serotonin

levels. I would stick to the companies who standardize their dose for

0.3% hypericin and only take the recommended dose.

 

Then jmt.... (J. Mark Taylor) stepped in and replied to the

recommendation to " stick to the companies who standardize their dose

for 0.3% hypericin " :

 

.... I would ignore this advice. We don't buy carrots by beta-carotene

content and we don't buy potatoes by carbohydrate ratings. Although

neutraceutical interests may soon begin marketing things that way,

they only take away from the fundamental nature of wholistic health.

 

Comment from Henriette:

 

This 'standardization' is just yet another marketing trick to me. Get

suppliers you trust, know your tinctures, and don't fall for scams,

not even 'scientifically proven' ones.

 

Pure hypericin -has- been shown to produce side effects in almost all

laboratory tests, while side effects with the whole plant extract

(Hypericum tincture, made solely with Hypericum flowering tops and

alcohol) are exceedingly rare.

However, after the herb made it big in the US (in 1996? 1997 ?), tens

of thousands of people have been taking it, daily, in larger or

smaller quantities (they don't always remember or even know that more

is not always better); as tinctures, " standardized extracts " ,

capsules, and you-name-its. If -you- experience side effects, you're

just one of the unhappy few " exceedingly rare " cases. If that's the

case use your common sense and _stop_ taking it.

*******************************************

 

Ok, I realize I have gone off on a tangent about st john's wort, but

it was to support the idea that standardization is a " medical "

concept and not a " natural healing " concept. Instead of being used

to verify the quality and efficiency of a product, it's being used to

turn herbs into drugs - and therefore continues to propogate or idea

of healing as the medical approach. If any such validation of

herbals should exist, in my opinion it should be one that ensures

proper handling and storage of herbs, lack of herbicides and

pesticides, and following ecologic guidelines for farming and

wildcrafting. In this way the herb is preserved as closely as

possible to if you had collected and dried, tinctured, powdered it

etc yourself, the medicinal properties are maintained, and it keeps

the responsibility on the herb consumer to find out how it should be

used instead of relying on govt organizations who don't know ding

dong about the herbs they are " standardizing " .

best to you

thessa

 

herbal remedies, " gar_fla_62 " <tampagar@w...> wrote:

> Hi Thessa. I'm not an herbalist, just happen to be interested in

herbs. I agree about herbs complimenting each other, but there has to

be enough of each to be effective. Standardization is not a black and

white issue. Not all herbs have to be standardized in order to be

effective because they already either have high amounts of the active

ingredients or have several. I'm of the opinion that too many

herbalists stand by the " whole herb " belief more on sticking to

tradition rather than being ore open how standardization does have

benefits. Persnal experience has MORE than confirmed this. For

example, I've used Kava for years. I've tried the " whole herb " , about

2 to 3 of the 450 mg capsules and didn't notice anything. This is

because the kavalactone content is so low. You would probably have to

take about 7 or 8 to feel the same effect as taking only one 250 mg

tablet standardized to 30%. Another problem with non standardization

of herbs that should always be is that strengths vary among different

brands and even among different bottles of the same product. This is

also the reason so many people report no results from St. John's

Wort. They make the mistake of only taking the whole herb. It's

unfortunate that hrbs that really need standardization are sold like

this. Sure, you could take these kind of herbs in their whole

unstandardized form, but don't expect results unless you are willing

to far exceed the recommended dosage. And even then, you have the

problem of not knowing that you could have taken too much. It would

be far more expensive as well. Again, this doesn't apply to all

herbs. Scullcap (just to name one) will give good results with the

suggested dosage.

[Guest guest]

one of the problems with this idea is there is no

research as to what the active component is in each

herb. St. johns wort was thought to be hypericum. but

when research was done with hypericum extract they got

no results over the placebo. The idea is that the

whole plant works together each component working in

harmony with the other. what is more important many

times is the quality of the suppliers. Herbs that are

old, prepared wrong, havested wrong and such are more

likely to have a greater effect. Now that I am able to

buy wholesale I am able to see the differnce in the

different supplieers and the shameful shape of retail

store bought in most cases.

B

--- gar_fla_62 <tampagar wrote:

> Hi Thessa. I'm not an herbalist, just happen to be

> interested in herbs. I agree about herbs

> complimenting each other, but there has to be enough

> of each to be effective. Standardization is not a

> black and white issue. Not all herbs have to be

> standardized in order to be effective because they

> already either have high amounts of the active

> ingredients or have several. I'm of the opinion that

> too many herbalists stand by the " whole herb " belief

> more on sticking to tradition rather than being ore

> open how standardization does have benefits. Persnal

> experience has MORE than confirmed this. For

> example, I've used Kava for years. I've tried the

> " whole herb " , about 2 to 3 of the 450 mg capsules

> and didn't notice anything. This is because the

> kavalactone content is so low. You would probably

> have to take about 7 or 8 to feel the same effect as

> taking only one 250 mg tablet standardized to 30%.

> Another problem with non standardization of herbs

> that should always be is that strengths vary among

> different brands and even among different bottles of

> the same product. This is also the reason so many

> people report no results from St. John's Wort. They

> make the mistake of only taking the whole herb. It's

> unfortunate that hrbs that really need

> standardization are sold like this. Sure, you could

> take these kind of herbs in their whole

> unstandardized form, but don't expect results unless

> you are willing to far exceed the recommended

> dosage. And even then, you have the problem of not

> knowing that you could have taken too much. It would

> be far more expensive as well. Again, this doesn't

> apply to all herbs. Scullcap (just to name one) will

> give good results with the suggested dosage.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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http://health.

[Guest guest]

No research has been done to find the primary active ingredient of herbs? How

then did they discover such things as kavalactones in Kava, silymarin in Milk

Thistle, vitexin in Hawthorne, or allicin in Garlic? The " whole herb " concept is

fine, as long you are certain you have enough of the primary component to be

synergetic with all the rest, but then how do you know for sure? Standardization

at least has science behind it. The other is still just a theory with no

scientific basis to verify it's benefit.

[Guest guest]

It would be wise to exercise extreme caution with 5-HTP. I don't think this

product is fully proven yet. And when you start playing around with serotonin

levels, all sorts of havoc can result. This idea that people are undergoing

anxiety because of low serotonin levels is probably the opposite of what is

happening. Anxiety is a spiritual condition, which then impacts the body that

you own. So it is very likely that the low serotonin levels are an effect of

anxiety, not a cause. Those of us who have learned how to work from a

spiritual perspective will see evidence of this all the time, but

unfortunately that evidence will be largely invisible to a materialist.

 

Homeopathic products are a great idea, because it is generally less likely

that they will do harm.

 

As for conventional treatments, it is definitely not workable to try and take

herbs to supplement a psychiatric medication such as Effexor or Prozac. It is

possible that an herb will not be properly metabolized in the presence of

drugs. There are many ways this could cause liver damage or even brain

instability.

 

Most of the psychiatric drugs have terrible side effects, some of which have

not been fully documented. One very widespread class, the SSRI type (Prozac,

Luvox, Celexa, Zoloft, Paxil, etc.) will sometimes produce serious digestive

problems, even after discontinuance. At present we have no idea what

percentage of patients this happens to; we just see cases now and then.

 

Due to intensive training on this subject, i personally have found that the

best way to reduce anxiety is to figure out WHO is causing it in my life, and

learn to handle that person, or if handling isn't possible, disconnect from

that person. As a professional musician, i run into more than my share of

anxiety-producing people, and have had to learn this in order to survive.

Most of these methods of handling anxiety-producing people are spiritual in

nature, and thus are included in religious contexts. Therefore, i am limiting

my comments to this group. But i am willing to answer private questions on

this subject, including how i came by the special training that so effectively

reduced my anxiety and made it possible for me to recover quickly from

incidents.

 

On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 17:14:59 -0000 skybyrd51 <skybird wrote:

 

> I've found taking a homeopathic product called

> " Calms Forte " from a

> company called Hyland's is very effective in

> relaxing me at night.

>

> You can also take magnesium citrate as it

> absorbs very well compared

> to other magnesiums.

>

> Another product you can try is 5-HTP.

>

> 5-HTP, or 5-hydroxytryptophan, is the immediate

> precursor of

> serotonin. Low levels of serotonin are

> associated with sleep

> problems, depression, anxiety, compulsive

> disorders (including eating

> disorders), restless leg syndrome, migraines,

> fibromyalgia, and low

> pain threshold. Many people that are afflicted

> with one of those

> conditions often have others, which has led

> some researchers to label

> them collectively as " Low Serotonin Syndrome " .

>

[Guest guest]

Those items are the most common ingred in each of

those herbs and are unique to that herb often times.

The leap is then made that since it is the largest

chemical in the herb it therefore MUST be the active

ingred.

b

--- gar_fla_62 <tampagar wrote:

> No research has been done to find the primary active

> ingredient of herbs? How then did they discover such

> things as kavalactones in Kava, silymarin in Milk

> Thistle, vitexin in Hawthorne, or allicin in Garlic?

> The " whole herb " concept is fine, as long you are

> certain you have enough of the primary component to

> be synergetic with all the rest, but then how do you

> know for sure? Standardization at least has science

> behind it. The other is still just a theory with no

> scientific basis to verify it's benefit.

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It has always been my opinion that no substance will relax your mind as

well as *you learning to relax your mind* will. It's not easy and it

doesn't work overnight, but learning a little self-mind-control (oh Jedi)

is probably the only 100% cure for thinking when you don't want to. It

helps, of course, in areas other than sleep, and so IMO the payoff is worth

the effort. Luck whatever you do, --ST

 

>Hi everyone,

>I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula. When

I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since kid.

I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian,

passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted instead,

as a diarretic on my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanks

>Take care,

>Renee

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>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

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to

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>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

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Responding to another message on this thread (that I accidentally deleted,

all hail Monday morning), regular meditation increases seratonin levels

too.

 

I don't mean to sound like a fanatic about meditating or anything, but

here's my reasoning: I used to be horribly depressed, ever since I was a

young child. I was suicidal, occasionally hallucinated, had terrible

insomnia plus night terrors, choking fits--you name it. I tried everything

from all sorts of herbs to very high doses of Prozac, plus bazillions of

therapists and doctors. The only thing that ever provided me more than

very temporary relief was simply learning to watch and control my thinking

-- that was it. Compared to the effort I put into trying to get my anxiety

under control in other ways, the year or so it took me to learn to meditate

and calm my thoughts was a walk in the park. (And it worked even before I

started watching what I ate, though being careful about my diet offered

added relief later on.)

 

Take care,

--Sara T.

 

>In a message dated 8/2/2002 11:14:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>reneeandjerry writes:

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>> Hi everyone,

>> I wanted to ask if anyone had a tried and true anti-anxiety formula.

When

>> I go to bed at night, my mind won't rest!! I've been like that since

kid.

>> I have tried Kava, no help, and I have made a formula with valerian,

>> passionflower, skullcap, lemon balm, and it didn't help, but acted

instead,

>> as a diarretic on my system. Any help would be appreciated! thanks

>>

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>I also have a very hard time sleeping & getting to sleep. I have tried

>everything as far as medications, then, herbal remedies...I try to stretch

 

>myself out on the floor and relax myself (no noise, kids, annoying people,

 

>etc...) once my mind has settled down, it is usually easier for me to fall

 

>asleep. It helps, but is not always effective...

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[Guest guest]

Wellllll, Thessa is absolutely correct in her observations. It's only recently that St. John's Wort has been used for "depression". Besides the uses Thessa mentioned, it is also well known as a diuretic and a help for the kidneys.

 

St. John's Wort has recently been called "Herbal Prozac", and personally I think that this label is an insult to a perfectly good herb.

 

I missed the original thread on "anxiety formula" so can not comment there. However, I will say this about it. Some people are born anxious. Some people get that way after being constantly under stress, and others I'm sure experience it from nutritional causes and a lack of exercise as well. In all my experience, I think I can honestly say that I don't know of ONE particular "cause" for it. There are Spiritual, Mental and Physical reasons "why". It is an individual thing which needs to be handled on an individual basis. Toxic relationships, toxic foods, toxic environments all play their part in this and for a person to "invent" an anxiety formula is somewhat ludicrous and a little presumptuous in my books. Either they haven't looked hard enough or perhaps they meant to use a different word???

 

My two cents. ;o)

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Dr. Ian Shillington505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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