Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Candied GingerRecipe By : HERB COMPANION, Oct/Nov 1997Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00Categories : Ginger Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method-------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1/2 pound fresh ginger water 1 1/2 cups sugar 1 1/2 cups water 2 tablespoons light corn syrupCrystallizing ginger is a lengthy process, but having these choice sweetson hand is reward enough. 1. Peel 1/2 pound fresh ginger and slice 1/4 inch thick. Bring to a boil inwater to cover. Simmer, covered for 2+1/2 hours. Drain, simmer in freshwater for another hour, or until tender. Drain.2. Bring to a boil 1+1/2 cups sugar, 1+1/2 cups water, and 2 tablespoonslight corn syrup; cook for 2 minutes. Add the ginger. Remove from the heatand let stand until cool, or overnight.3. Again bring the syrup to a boil. Simmer, stirring occasionally, for 1 to3 hours, or until the ginger is translucent. If the syrup thickens tooquickly, thin with a little hot water.4. Remove the pan from the heat and set the ginger pieces on a wire rack todry for a few hours. Roll them in granulated sugar and store in a glass jar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Yep, just what I thought -- it contains sugar, the immune system suppresser. If this is a novel idea to you, read http://askwaltstollmd.com/sugarimm.html Roman Elaine Davis wrote: > Candied Ginger Recipe By : HERB COMPANION, Oct/Nov 1997 Serving Size : 1 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Ginger Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 1/2 pound fresh ginger water 1 1/2 cups sugar 1 1/2 cups water 2 tablespoons light corn syrup Crystallizing ginger is a lengthy process, but having these choice sweets on hand is reward enough. 1. Peel 1/2 pound fresh ginger and slice 1/4 inch thick. Bring to a boil in water to cover. Simmer, covered for 2+1/2 hours. Drain, simmer in fresh water for another hour, or until tender. Drain. 2. Bring to a boil 1+1/2 cups sugar, 1+1/2 cups water, and 2 tablespoons light corn syrup; cook for 2 minutes. Add the ginger. Remove from the heat and let stand until cool, or overnight. 3. Again bring the syrup to a boil. Simmer, stirring occasionally, for 1 to 3 hours, or until the ginger is translucent. If the syrup thickens too quickly, thin with a little hot water. 4. Remove the pan from the heat and set the ginger pieces on a wire rack to dry for a few hours. Roll them in granulated sugar and store in a glass jar. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I went for over 15 years doing no sugar at all, as a diabetic. Didn't even open a can of peas during that time. It is a good discipline. But i eventually found that it was not 100% necessary to avoid it so strenuously. This came about because i perform harp music at weddings a lot, and eventually i broke down and had some cake once, at a time when i knew i could handle any reaction that might occur. I found out that it was ok. Then i did a few experiments on myself, found what i could and couldn't handle. My diabetes is still under control, and i can have some fun once in a while if i'm careful. Also, sugar can be a good medicine in itself sometimes. It will help move pollutants out of the lungs, and it will sometimes settle the stomach a bit. That's NOT a license for people to eat sugar the way most Americans do, which involves really tremendous quantities. It's just a common sense approach to the problem that works. At 02:57 PM 7/27/02 -0700, you wrote: >Yep, just what I thought -- it contains sugar, the immune system >suppresser. If this is a novel idea to you, read >http://askwaltstollmd.com/sugarimm.html > >Roman > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~rivedu -- Educational Site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Michael Riversong wrote: > Also, sugar can be a good medicine in itself sometimes. It will help move > pollutants out of the lungs I've never heard of this before. Could you elaborate on this a little please? How significant is the help and does it have to be refined sugar? Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I tend to think that the less refined sugar is, the better. Those trace minerals can be important. Sugar is a deep and fascinating subject. Right now, most of it comes from either beets or cane. Sugar beets grow well in Eastern Colorado, so i've seen them a lot. This is a plant that is good for nothing unless it's extensively refined. I'm not sure how people even figured out how these work, but i understand they originated in the Ukraine. As for sugar cane, i know that Caribbean Indians such as the Taino (my wife is part Taino) ate it raw, and it seemed to be all right for them. Sugar as a medicine has been known for a long time. However, because it is more easily abused than almost any other substance known, its medicinal uses tended to get buried. It is also sometimes difficult to separate out its use to make a bitter medicine like horehound more palatable from its medicinal action. Mainly sugar will help produce mucus, but not as heavily as dairy products would. This can be useful if someone has not been abusing sugar and has pollutants stuck in the lungs. I think it is best for people to use sugar sparingly. That way, when it is needed for one reason or another, it will be better appreciated. Most Native Americans customarily cultivated a taste for bitter things such as Camas, Golden Seal, Kale, and other foods & medicines in that range. Thus, to them, sugar would be mildly unpleasant. I have personally experienced this. I'm pretty sure that the Irish people often have a similar metabolism to Native Americans, and when i try to move my diet and medicinal use in that direction, it does work well for me. It is clear that different genetic backgrounds will cause different reactions to sugar. I have seen several people of German and Russian ancestry who seem to do well with larger quantities of sugar than most. I'm not sure how Chinese people tolerate it. Native Americans, English, Scottish, and Irish definitely don't do well with the stuff. I'd like to write more, but must get on to other tasks right now. Hope this has been of some assistance. At 11:17 PM 7/27/02 -0700, you wrote: >Michael Riversong wrote: > >> Also, sugar can be a good medicine in itself sometimes. It will help move >> pollutants out of the lungs > >I've never heard of this before. Could you elaborate on this a little please? How significant is the help and >does it have to be refined sugar? > >Roman > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~rivedu -- Educational Site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 Let's agree on terms. Let sugar be refined sugar. That's the kind I am against, in any amounts. Naturally, adversary effects of sugar will depend on the amount consumed, but I doubt that it's needed to be consumed in any quantity because sugar metabolism requires other nutrients present, and eating refined sugar makes the body pull those nutrients from other places. More comments below. Michael Riversong wrote: > Sugar is a deep and fascinating subject. Right now, most of it comes from > either beets or cane. Sugar beets grow well in Eastern Colorado, so i've > seen them a lot. This is a plant that is good for nothing unless it's > extensively refined. I've read about medicinal uses of beets and for food too, in unrefined form. I don''t understand why you think it's good for nothing unless it's extensively refined. > As for sugar cane, i > know that Caribbean Indians such as the Taino (my wife is part Taino) ate it > raw, and it seemed to be all right for them. Again, she ate unrefined carbohydrates, not refined sugar. > Mainly sugar will help produce mucus, but not as heavily as dairy products > would. This can be useful if someone has not been abusing sugar and has > pollutants stuck in the lungs. The body seems to be able to produce enough mucus on its own. From what I know, it needs help eliminating it during sickness; hence, usage of expectorant herbs. Clears those lungs very well. Why use refined sugar that is known to suppress immune system (even in quite small quantities)? I am used to thinking that immune system needs support, especially during an illness. > I think it is best for people to use sugar sparingly. That way, when it is > needed for one reason or another, it will be better appreciated. I think it is best not to use it at all. And to use unrefined carbohydrates sparingly. > It is clear that different genetic backgrounds will cause different > reactions to sugar. I have seen several people of German and Russian > ancestry who seem to do well with larger quantities of sugar than most. I'm > not sure how Chinese people tolerate it. Native Americans, English, > Scottish, and Irish definitely don't do well with the stuff. It is easy to make a mistake when interpreting effects of sugar. Just because someone doesn't display obvious problems, doesn't mean they do fine on it. Considering that modern Russian (I know them so I will talk about them only) can't boast great health, I can't use their example to make a conclusion that sugar is fine for them. Not enough info. I know their dental health is not good, generally. Weston Price has done extensive observations on effects of " displacing foods of modern commerce " and documented them in his book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. Very interesting. Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2002 Report Share Posted July 28, 2002 I want to complicate the subject a little more. It seems that it's the refined glucose that is to be avoided. Xylitol is another sugar, but according to VRP (www.vrp.com), it has some great medicinal qualities. And they seem to sell it in refined form. Roman Roman wrote: > Let's agree on terms. Let sugar be refined sugar. That's the kind I am against, in any amounts. Naturally, > adversary effects of sugar will depend on the amount consumed, but I doubt that it's needed to be consumed in > any quantity because sugar metabolism requires other nutrients present, and eating refined sugar makes the body > pull those nutrients from other places. > > More comments below. > > Michael Riversong wrote: > > > Sugar is a deep and fascinating subject. Right now, most of it comes from > > either beets or cane. Sugar beets grow well in Eastern Colorado, so i've > > seen them a lot. This is a plant that is good for nothing unless it's > > extensively refined. > > I've read about medicinal uses of beets and for food too, in unrefined form. I don''t understand why you think > it's good for nothing unless it's extensively refined. > > > As for sugar cane, i > > know that Caribbean Indians such as the Taino (my wife is part Taino) ate it > > raw, and it seemed to be all right for them. > > Again, she ate unrefined carbohydrates, not refined sugar. > > > Mainly sugar will help produce mucus, but not as heavily as dairy products > > would. This can be useful if someone has not been abusing sugar and has > > pollutants stuck in the lungs. > > The body seems to be able to produce enough mucus on its own. From what I know, it needs help eliminating it > during sickness; hence, usage of expectorant herbs. Clears those lungs very well. Why use refined sugar that is > known to suppress immune system (even in quite small quantities)? I am used to thinking that immune system needs > support, especially during an illness. > > > I think it is best for people to use sugar sparingly. That way, when it is > > needed for one reason or another, it will be better appreciated. > > I think it is best not to use it at all. And to use unrefined carbohydrates sparingly. > > > It is clear that different genetic backgrounds will cause different > > reactions to sugar. I have seen several people of German and Russian > > ancestry who seem to do well with larger quantities of sugar than most. I'm > > not sure how Chinese people tolerate it. Native Americans, English, > > Scottish, and Irish definitely don't do well with the stuff. > > It is easy to make a mistake when interpreting effects of sugar. Just because someone doesn't display obvious > problems, doesn't mean they do fine on it. Considering that modern Russian (I know them so I will talk about > them only) can't boast great health, I can't use their example to make a conclusion that sugar is fine for them. > Not enough info. I know their dental health is not good, generally. Weston Price has done extensive observations > on effects of " displacing foods of modern commerce " and documented them in his book Nutrition and Physical > Degeneration. Very interesting. > > Roman > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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