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The LA Times, today, Wednesday, 6/11/03, has a front page article

about a bare-foot doctor in China dealing with SARS. The doctor is in

a village- Shilong- and dwelling at what I assume is the most

impoverished aspect of medicine in China. The article is available at

Latimes.com but you may have to register to read it. The full URL is

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-

barefoot11jun11001426,1,4525473.story

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Bob,

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and BPP can publish or not

publish whatever you choose. However, as a practitioner, I have already

found these formulas useful, and the commentaries insightful. Of course,

their English isn't great, so that's why I may be editing it- for

readability. It may be that as a translator you have access to more

material than most practitioners do. So thank goodness there are other

publishers who can get the material out to the profession.

 

I don't think it's too late for anyone to " discover " the CM journal

literature, is it? I find your sentiment to be contrary to what I thought

was the profession's desire to see more of all kinds of CM literature

translated. If these formulas and usages have not been translated, then

they are new to us. Aren't we trying to expand the volume of literature?

Or like Hewlett Packard, are you only interested in innovation (totally new

material)? I'm not aware of any English books that contain the material in

this modern formulas book.

 

Were you making fun of my signature below (usage of quotes)? I must admit

now I am on the defensive with this group- another member told me privately

they were afraid to post because only about 6 people post, and everyone else

gets " blasted " as they said. I understand.

 

Emails can easily sound way harsher than intended. I'd say Emmanuel gets

the kudos for being the most diplomatic of the regular posters. It'd be

nice to see some more courtesy and open-mindedness.

 

B

 

 

[Dear " B, "

 

BPP was given the chance to publish the book you mention. We declined.

Frankly, the material is not that good. It is based on Philippe's

somewhat late discovery of the CM journal literature. I know he's

enthusiastic about this material, but, IMHO, I don't think its a very

mature enthusiasm.

 

Bob]

 

 

 

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> I don't think it's too late for anyone to " discover " the CM journal

> literature, is it?

 

Of course I'm happy that Philippe has discovered the CM journal

literature. I'm happy when anyone discovers this huge, extremely

helpful reservoir of clinically useful information. I just don't think

Philippe has " sat " long enough with the information he presents in

this particular book to support some of his opinions. I feel there is

an element of naive enthusiasm in the book. As Philippe's

English editor and translator over eight or nine books, and having

turned down several others, I'm pretty intimately familar with

Philippe's writing. From my point of view, Philippe is still very

young.

 

> Were you making fun of my signature below (usage of quotes)?

> [Dear " B, "

 

I was attempting to underscore the fact that, given your " signature, "

it was not readily apparent to whom I was speaking. You may think your

signature was transparent, but it certainly wasn't to me. :)

 

Bob

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Were you making fun of my signature below (usage of quotes)? I must admitnow I am on the defensive with this group- another member told me privatelythey were afraid to post because only about 6 people post, and everyone elsegets "blasted" as they said. I understand.>>>>>That is very unfortunate. With 800 members very few voices are heard. I always wander what other people think about some of the questions razed

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Is this a misspelling or really your feelings about the discussions? :)

 

 

On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 08:11 AM, Alon Marcus wrote:

 

> I always wander what other people think about some of the questions

> razed

> alon

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Brian,

 

At the risk of sounding harsher than intended,

I just wanted to respond to what you've said

below, as it is a recurring theme here.

 

 

I must admit

> now I am on the defensive with this group- another member told me

privately

> they were afraid to post because only about 6 people post, and

everyone else

> gets " blasted " as they said. I understand.

 

Carl Jung once wrote that people who repress

their desires do so only because they have

desires that are weak enough to be repressed.

 

The same is true, to a certain extent, with

the urge to criticize. In fact, it's a kind

of enzymatic action that must take place in

the metabolism of our social interactions if

the ideas that we consume and use to construct

the bodies of our knowledge are to be properly

broken down and taken up again.

 

There is no need to feel sympathy for people

who get blasted. Just as there is no need

to feel rage at those who blast. It's all

good.

>

> Emails can easily sound way harsher than intended. I'd say

Emmanuel gets

> the kudos for being the most diplomatic of the regular posters.

It'd be

> nice to see some more courtesy and open-mindedness.

 

I'd say Emmanuel gets the kudos for alot more

than diplomacy. In fact, as a diplomat he's

a fine violinist; but as a poet he's a prince,

he's a marquis!

 

Ken

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Carl Jung also once said " It's not what you know that

heals people it's who you are. "

--- dragon90405 <yulong wrote:

> Brian,

>

> At the risk of sounding harsher than intended,

> I just wanted to respond to what you've said

> below, as it is a recurring theme here.

>

>

> I must admit

> > now I am on the defensive with this group- another

> member told me

> privately

> > they were afraid to post because only about 6

> people post, and

> everyone else

> > gets " blasted " as they said. I understand.

>

> Carl Jung once wrote that people who repress

> their desires do so only because they have

> desires that are weak enough to be repressed.

>

> The same is true, to a certain extent, with

> the urge to criticize. In fact, it's a kind

> of enzymatic action that must take place in

> the metabolism of our social interactions if

> the ideas that we consume and use to construct

> the bodies of our knowledge are to be properly

> broken down and taken up again.

>

> There is no need to feel sympathy for people

> who get blasted. Just as there is no need

> to feel rage at those who blast. It's all

> good.

> >

> > Emails can easily sound way harsher than intended.

> I'd say

> Emmanuel gets

> > the kudos for being the most diplomatic of the

> regular posters.

> It'd be

> > nice to see some more courtesy and

> open-mindedness.

>

> I'd say Emmanuel gets the kudos for alot more

> than diplomacy. In fact, as a diplomat he's

> a fine violinist; but as a poet he's a prince,

> he's a marquis!

>

> Ken

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Well put Ken. I'd just add that the 6 people posting for 800 people

sounds like a microsystem of the profession as a whole in the US. And

as far as getting blasted... or 'flamed' as it was once called... this

list is a model of civility compared to most public forums on (or off)

the net. Try posting on the kung-fu mailing list (haven't been there

for years) or better yet, bringing up new ideas at a state board

association meeting, that's where you can develop a thick skin! But

then again, it's nothing compared to what Gallileo (or the other person

that one of b's websites is about) had to put up with for their new

ideas.

 

Geoff

 

ps - Ken & Bob, you guys are starting to creep me out... mars retrograde

or something???

 

> I must admit

> > now I am on the defensive with this group- another member told me

> privately

> > they were afraid to post because only about 6 people post, and

> everyone else

> > gets " blasted " as they said. I understand.

>

> Carl Jung once wrote that people who repress

> their desires do so only because they have

> desires that are weak enough to be repressed.

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, " Alon Marcus " <

alonmarcus@w...> wrote:>

> >>>>>That is very unfortunate. With 800 members very few voices are heard.

I always wander what other people think about some of the questions razed

> alon

 

One member I met at our conference told me that she and her herbalist

friends regularly discuss the ideas talked about here amongst themselves. I

suspect there is quite a bit of that going on. A hidden ripple heretofore

unsuspected...

 

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