Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Okay, so after hearing plenty of mention of the " eat for your blood type " idea and the online lists, I finally looked mine up and took a good long gander at it. And I don't know what to think. Should I really not eat pickles? or blue-green algae (which I've been taking, thinking it was so good for me)...? I looked at the " reasons " list too, but it's pretty perfunctory and didn't do much to convince me. Also, I noticed that this guy sells a *lot* of stuff; power bars geared to your blood type, enzymes for your blood type, vitamins etc etc. Which always makes me go, " Hmmm... " Can some of you who've tried this diet give me any advice? Do you trust this guy and--especially those of you with scientific leanings--his methods? Do you think it'd be worth my getting the book to find out more? I want to believe that there's a dietary schema this easy for me, but I'm really not sure... Thanks a lot! Whiffling, Sara httpd://www.boredmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 I have had great results following the diet. Increased well being and energy, more uptone. ARC. Corinne. - Sara Thustra <tv_is_a_drug <herbal remedies >; <1herbal-healing >; <homemade_medicinal_herbs >; <wisewomanherbal > Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:01 PM [herbal remedies] Eating for your blood type > Okay, so after hearing plenty of mention of the " eat for your blood type " > idea and the online lists, I finally looked mine up and took a good long > gander at it. > > And I don't know what to think. Should I really not eat pickles? or > blue-green algae (which I've been taking, thinking it was so good for > me)...? I looked at the " reasons " list too, but it's pretty perfunctory > and didn't do much to convince me. Also, I noticed that this guy sells a > *lot* of stuff; power bars geared to your blood type, enzymes for your > blood type, vitamins etc etc. Which always makes me go, " Hmmm... " > > Can some of you who've tried this diet give me any advice? Do you trust > this guy and--especially those of you with scientific leanings--his > methods? Do you think it'd be worth my getting the book to find out more? > I want to believe that there's a dietary schema this easy for me, but I'm > really not sure... > > Thanks a lot! > Whiffling, > Sara > httpd://www.boredmail.com > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Thanks Maureen--that's a helluva testimonial, there. I did notice that some of the things I've just " glommed " to in recent months, after making an effort to eat 'healthy', are in fact in the list as beneficial to me -- garlic, for instance, and flax seed. The second I tried those, I wanted more. And it is creepy how most of the things that are supposedly 'good for me' per the list are pretty much in line with my taste preferences. I also found it odd (in a good way) that this list recommends 4-6 servings of red meat a day for us Type-Os, and says that beef is good for me---In spite of plenty of advice to the contrary, I've never been able to give up red meat. I just don't feel right without it. So there you go. I will take your advice and continue to check this out, with an ear to what feels best for me. Thanks again! -ST >> Sara, >> >> I spent about three months figuring out which foods and herbs seem to wor>k >> well for me. As I shifted my diet to include only those things which fel>t >> just plain healthy to me, my general health and sense of well being impro>ved. >> I dropped weight. I felt great. I ignored all the ³supposed to be good >for >> you² wisdom and listened to my own body. After those three months or so> I >> discovered that I had reinvented the blood type diet for Type A. So, for> me, >> it seems to work. I haven¹t bought any special products. I still follow> the >> plan and love how I feel. >> >> Maureen >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Sara, I spent about three months figuring out which foods and herbs seem to work well for me. As I shifted my diet to include only those things which felt just plain healthy to me, my general health and sense of well being improved. I dropped weight. I felt great. I ignored all the “supposed to be good for you” wisdom and listened to my own body. After those three months or so I discovered that I had reinvented the blood type diet for Type A. So, for me, it seems to work. I haven’t bought any special products. I still follow the plan and love how I feel. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 herbal remedies, " Sara Thustra " <tv_is_a_drug@b...> wrote: > I will take > your advice and continue to check this out, with an ear to what feels best > for me. Thanks again! -ST Sara, You're right that the reasons given there don't tell you anything. Your library can probably supply the book, which explains. Lots of people where I work were raving about the food lists. I was stubborn, but I finally decided to give it a try. I never bought his supplements either, btw. I stopped all Avoid foods cold turkey. A month later I began experimenting with adding them back one at a time, and I quickly found out what each of these foods did to me and why I didn't want them. So, this is about our having control based on knowledge of our own bodies. I can pretty much design how I'm going to feel (emotionally and physically) for the next three days by what I eat. The differences I experienced in my own health were absolutely amazing. There's no way I'll ever go back. I found your comments about how much you already comply with your food lists interesting. Many people I've met have told me over the years they've gravitated toward those food lists anyway, as that's what made them feel the best. One lady I met had gone to a fancy food allergist across the country for extensive tests. He sent her home with lists of foods to avoid. Years later the book came out and when she compared lists they were identical. I thought that was pretty interesting. Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2002 Report Share Posted July 4, 2002 Interesting that you are encountering this information at this time. I had a long consulting session last week with a friend, and at the end of it he loaned me his copy of the blood type book. This has been great, since our local library doesn't have it. I have seen a lot of good reports on the book and the diet, and some bad reports as well. As an anthropology student, i don't completely agree with the author's conclusions and methods. He says the development of blood types was an evolutionary mechanism, but he never explains how that mechanism works. So both my wife and i are very skeptical. In our case, things are very odd. She's Type O, which means she should thrive on meat. But she doesn't. In fact she does much better on a vegetarian diet, and always has. I'm Type A, and should do well on a vegetarian diet. But i haven't particularly -- i was vegetarian for 7 years and in that time my weight balooned up, i got a serious chronic gum infection, and my diabetes got a little worse. When i introduced meat back into my diet, things got somewhat better. Rose has noted that i am easier to live with if i'm getting some meat each day. So at this point i'm not sure about this blood type thing. I think that there may be something to it, but that there are other factors which can interact, including enzyme profiles developed by various tribes. An example of an enzyme profile would be how Irish people (half of my ancestry) are prone to alcoholism. For over 2,000 years, the religion of Ireland prohibited alcohol except for ceremonies 4 times a year. During this time, most Irish people somehow lost the ability to handle the stuff, and so we get addicted very easily. There are similar enzyme profiles for wheat, corn, nightshades, and many other foods. Sometimes a very small tribe would be isolated from just a few foods, and then somehow pass this down to modern descendants. I wrote a lot of this up in a chart in 1998. It became part of an anti-drug information packet which did not sell well, and has been discontinued. I'm seriously considering setting up a web site only for educational material such as this. The skeleton of this site is already in place -- mainly what needs to be done now is setting up an index page. One problem will be putting together a PDF version of the chart for the site. I could privately send a document version of the chart at this point to anyone who asks. At 01:01 PM 7/3/02 -0500, you wrote: >Okay, so after hearing plenty of mention of the " eat for your blood type " >idea and the online lists, I finally looked mine up and took a good long >gander at it. > >And I don't know what to think. Should I really not eat pickles? or >blue-green algae (which I've been taking, thinking it was so good for >me)...? I looked at the " reasons " list too, but it's pretty perfunctory >and didn't do much to convince me. Also, I noticed that this guy sells a >*lot* of stuff; power bars geared to your blood type, enzymes for your >blood type, vitamins etc etc. Which always makes me go, " Hmmm... " > >Can some of you who've tried this diet give me any advice? Do you trust >this guy and--especially those of you with scientific leanings--his >methods? Do you think it'd be worth my getting the book to find out more? >I want to believe that there's a dietary schema this easy for me, but I'm >really not sure... > >Thanks a lot! >Whiffling, >Sara >httpd://www.boredmail.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2002 Report Share Posted July 5, 2002 Hey Michael: Thanks once again for the thorough reply. I agree that there is something to be said for " racial food profiling " -- For instance, I am the only person I know (excepting my mother) for whom sauerkraut is an excellent digestive aid. *lol* Hail Germania. I am a Type O+, but there is some sort of additive in my blood that is typical of a heavily German/Romanian ancestral background (I know this because the Red Cross is always hounding me because of it). I start feeling immediately crappy (low energy, dizziness, upset stomach) if I don't eat red meat--preferably on the rare side--at least twice a week. I tried cutting back to just fish and chicken once, and I thought I was gonna die--I had a headache for 2 weeks straight, and when I ended up at a restaurant by chance, I ordered a barely-warm sirloin before I could even stop myself, and ate it almost in one bite. *lol* So I guess everybody has their thing...for me though, I was raised on the brady-bunch " white bread, heavy starch, few veggies and loads of sugar " diet, all of which is making it very difficult for me to intuit " what my body wants " . My body wants sugar. And coffee. *lol* So I'm trying to find something I can use as a template of sorts...but I'm worried that if I change too many things at once, I'll lose track and just get hopelessly screwed up. (It's my techie side: When fixing a computer, always make *one* change, document it, try whatever wasn't working--if it still isn't working, make one more change, etc. If you do more than one, you'll never know what fixed the problem. But Diet seems to be a subject with a much more...integrated approach, and it's kinda making my head spin.) And I'd love a copy of your list. If you need somebody to .pdf it for you, I can do that too. Take care, ST >Interesting that you are encountering this information at this time. I had >a long consulting session last week with a friend, and at the end of it he >loaned me his copy of the blood type book. This has been great, since our >local library doesn't have it. I have seen a lot of good reports on the >book and the diet, and some bad reports as well. > >As an anthropology student, i don't completely agree with the author's >conclusions and methods. He says the development of blood types was an >evolutionary mechanism, but he never explains how that mechanism works. So >both my wife and i are very skeptical. > >In our case, things are very odd. She's Type O, which means she should >thrive on meat. But she doesn't. In fact she does much better on a >vegetarian diet, and always has. I'm Type A, and should do well on a >vegetarian diet. But i haven't particularly -- i was vegetarian for 7 years >and in that time my weight balooned up, i got a serious chronic gum >infection, and my diabetes got a little worse. When i introduced meat back >into my diet, things got somewhat better. Rose has noted that i am easier >to live with if i'm getting some meat each day. > >So at this point i'm not sure about this blood type thing. I think that >there may be something to it, but that there are other factors which can >interact, including enzyme profiles developed by various tribes. An example >of an enzyme profile would be how Irish people (half of my ancestry) are >prone to alcoholism. For over 2,000 years, the religion of Ireland >prohibited alcohol except for ceremonies 4 times a year. During this time, >most Irish people somehow lost the ability to handle the stuff, and so we >get addicted very easily. There are similar enzyme profiles for wheat, >corn, nightshades, and many other foods. Sometimes a very small tribe would >be isolated from just a few foods, and then somehow pass this down to modern >descendants. > >I wrote a lot of this up in a chart in 1998. It became part of an anti-drug >information packet which did not sell well, and has been discontinued. I'm >seriously considering setting up a web site only for educational material >such as this. The skeleton of this site is already in place -- mainly what >needs to be done now is setting up an index page. One problem will be >putting together a PDF version of the chart for the site. I could privately >send a document version of the chart at this point to anyone who asks. > >At 01:01 PM 7/3/02 -0500, you wrote: >>Okay, so after hearing plenty of mention of the " eat for your blood type " >>idea and the online lists, I finally looked mine up and took a good long >>gander at it. >> >>And I don't know what to think. Should I really not eat pickles? or >>blue-green algae (which I've been taking, thinking it was so good for >>me)...? I looked at the " reasons " list too, but it's pretty perfunctory >>and didn't do much to convince me. Also, I noticed that this guy sells a >>*lot* of stuff; power bars geared to your blood type, enzymes for your >>blood type, vitamins etc etc. Which always makes me go, " Hmmm... " >> >>Can some of you who've tried this diet give me any advice? Do you trust >>this guy and--especially those of you with scientific leanings--his >>methods? Do you think it'd be worth my getting the book to find out more? >>I want to believe that there's a dietary schema this easy for me, but I'm >>really not sure... >> >>Thanks a lot! >>Whiffling, >>Sara >>httpd://www.boredmail.com >> > > > >Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: >1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. >2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. >3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to >prescribe for your own health. >We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as >they behave themselves. >Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person >following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. >It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to >be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > >Dr. Ian Shillington >Doctor of Naturopathy >Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2002 Report Share Posted July 7, 2002 Dear Sara, I agree with your "let's take lookie-see" attitude here. ;o) As with most diets, there is almost always a piece of truth or two which is promulgated and then hooks us. Most of these truths could be mentioned in about one paragraph and there'd be no need for the book. This book is no different. I have to ask myself the question, "Are you trying to tell me that an Eskimo who is a Blood Type "A" should be mostly a vegetarian???" One of the things completely overlooked by the book was genetic background. IE. People of Germanic background usually have a much higher tolerance of dairy products than certain others, including others of the "White" race. American Indians and Eskimos have a higher tolerance of eating raw meat sources than just about any of the other races out there. One of the problems in writing any diet book is the attempt to try to put all of us into the same boat. There are certain things which do apply to all humans, but most of the diet books out there usually just ride some hobby horse and ignore these factors. One of the best sets of diet books I've ever read (they actually cover the entire subject of nutrition), is the series that was written by Adelle Davis over 4 decades ago. My personal opinion is that every diet book written since, has come up short compared to Ms. Davis' works. Ohhhhhhhhh, it's not that there aren't a few good observations since that time, but these are usually twisted into some kind of "bent" and sends most of us off on a wild goose chase, leaving us fatter than ever and feeling worse in the long run. Without doubt the worst diet book out there is "The Zone". I wouldn't even use the paper in the pages for bum wad. One of the things that almost all of these diet books fail to mention (can't think of one which does), is the importance of eating all ORGANIC. THEY JUST DON'T MENTION THIS!!!!!!!!!! Boy, the number of people I've seen turn from being HOPELESS to HEALTHY just my changing the quality of their food (over to CERTIFIED ORGANIC), without really changing what they eat is in the hundreds if not over a thousand. Organic food has the nutrients and the basic building blocks to build a healthy body. Commercially grown food is junk. I'm not just talking about fast food here, I'm talking about the SUPERMARKETS AND THE FRANKENFOODS THEY SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anywho, I better stop here or I'll get no other e-mails done. LOL. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Sara Thustra herbal remedies ; 1herbal-healing ; homemade_medicinal_herbs ; wisewomanherbal Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:01 PM [herbal remedies] Eating for your blood type Okay, so after hearing plenty of mention of the "eat for your blood type"idea and the online lists, I finally looked mine up and took a good longgander at it.And I don't know what to think. Should I really not eat pickles? orblue-green algae (which I've been taking, thinking it was so good forme)...? I looked at the "reasons" list too, but it's pretty perfunctoryand didn't do much to convince me. Also, I noticed that this guy sells a*lot* of stuff; power bars geared to your blood type, enzymes for yourblood type, vitamins etc etc. Which always makes me go, "Hmmm..."Can some of you who've tried this diet give me any advice? Do you trustthis guy and--especially those of you with scientific leanings--hismethods? Do you think it'd be worth my getting the book to find out more? I want to believe that there's a dietary schema this easy for me, but I'mreally not sure...Thanks a lot!Whiffling,Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2002 Report Share Posted July 8, 2002 Um........ I think there's a little misunderstanding here? The book " Eat Right 4 Your Type " and the food lists are not about " diet " in the sense of weight loss, they're about " diet " in the sense of making healthy dietary choices for the individual (not the masses). They make it clear that we're not all the same and they explain why. They're about food allergies, or intolerances, from what I can see (though those words aren't exactly used). And from everyone I know who's tried them, they're about obtaining optimal health, and knocking back aches, pains, depression, and other physical problems that plauge mankind. Just thought I'd clear that up. Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2002 Report Share Posted July 9, 2002 Dear Sara, Yer most welcome. An amazing fact is this. In the local market in Clearwater which I used to frequent, one of the vendors started carrying (and advertising very loudly with big banners) nothing but organic produce. Within a month his stand was the busiest by at least 3 times the amount of customers, than any other vendor. A few of the others got very pissed at him, but they finally switched to "Organic" as well, as the idea caught on. Ya gotta keep buggin' 'em ;o) Another thing is Co-ops. They're out there, and you just have to find them. You can even start your own. My wife Valorie did just that when the local co-op didn't want to take on any more members when we moved here. We used the same sources as the other Co-op, but just set up our own. Only 6 or 7 families belong to it, but it's enough. Valorie hardly ever reads HR list posts, but if you're interested in how she did it, you can e-mail her at ValorieShillington or call the number below my signature for a chat. She'll talk your ear off on the subject ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Sara Thustra herbal remedies Monday, July 08, 2002 8:22 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Eating for your blood type Thanks for your views, Doc--that's what I thought, and it's helpful to haveit backed up.So far I've found organic eggs, yogurt, and butter; but funnily enoughthat's at the local Frankenfoodmarket -- the local markets around me don'tcarry organic food at all. When I asked why, they said they more thananybody needed to "remain competitive" with the big markets, so they can'tafford to sell more expensive food. I stuck my nose in the air and toldthem they had a perfectly good back lot to grow it in, and left. *lol* You'd have been proud.I did (for everyone's edification) find a CSA that has a drop-off point inDetroit...that it's the only one is kind of depressing, but at leastthere's one. It's way too pricey for me to get in on this year, but I'mstarting to save now so I can do it next year. Organic veggies here Icome! I totally agree with you about organics, Doc; strictly from acommon-sense point of view, too. Everything mass-produced by largecorporations is crappy as hell next to things locally produced by peoplefor their communitites. With food, the distinction is a billion times moreimportant. I don't even have to know *what* they're doing to my food; Iknow how they do business, and that's enough to make me cringe at the ideaof them feeding me ANYTHING. No matter HOW many times it says "allnatural", "real xxx" or whatever on it. Hell no. *lol* Thanks again,ST>Dear Sara,>>I agree with your "let's take lookie-see" attitude here. ;o) As with>most diets, there is almost always a piece of truth or two which is>promulgated and then hooks us. Most of these truths could be mentioned>in about one paragraph and there'd be no need for the book. This book>is no different. I have to ask myself the question, "Are you trying to>tell me that an Eskimo who is a Blood Type "A" should be mostly a>vegetarian???">>One of the things completely overlooked by the book was genetic>background. IE. People of Germanic background usually have a much>higher tolerance of dairy products than certain others, including others>of the "White" race. American Indians and Eskimos have a higher>tolerance of eating raw meat sources than just about any of the other>races out there.>>One of the problems in writing any diet book is the attempt to try to>put all of us into the same boat. There are certain things which do>apply to all humans, but most of the diet books out there usually just>ride some hobby horse and ignore these factors.>>One of the best sets of diet books I've ever read (they actually cover>the entire subject of nutrition), is the series that was written by>Adelle Davis over 4 decades ago. My personal opinion is that every diet>book written since, has come up short compared to Ms. Davis' works.>>Ohhhhhhhhh, it's not that there aren't a few good observations since>that time, but these are usually twisted into some kind of "bent" and>sends most of us off on a wild goose chase, leaving us fatter than ever>and feeling worse in the long run. Without doubt the worst diet book>out there is "The Zone". I wouldn't even use the paper in the pages for>bum wad.>>One of the things that almost all of these diet books fail to mention>(can't think of one which does), is the importance of eating all>ORGANIC. THEY JUST DON'T MENTION THIS!!!!!!!!!! Boy, the number of>people I've seen turn from being HOPELESS to HEALTHY just my changing>the quality of their food (over to CERTIFIED ORGANIC), without really>changing what they eat is in the hundreds if not over a thousand.>Organic food has the nutrients and the basic building blocks to build a>healthy body. Commercially grown food is junk. I'm not just talking>about fast food here, I'm talking about the SUPERMARKETS AND THE>FRANKENFOODS THEY SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>Anywho, I better stop here or I'll get no other e-mails done. LOL.>>Love,>>Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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