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On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:43:40PM -0500, jalisic579 wrote:

> My sister in law has horrible case of tinnitis. She went to all doctors and

> they did not find anything wrong. She used to have low blood pressure, but

> right now is pretty normal. She has headaches, and feels pressure in the

> lower beck of her head. She cant sleep. She has some symptoms of menopause.

> Not regular periods and hot flushes. She started with black coshosh one

> month ago, but no improvement. She tried ear candles but no improvement.

 

Sorry I dont know a treatment, but yes tinnitis is one definite

symptom of menopause, its listed on the web all over the place. The actual

list contains about 34 symtoms!

 

Persian

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Jasmina

 

Did she go to an ear, nose & throat specialist? If not, then I would

highly recommend it. She may have something more severe than what the GP

can detect. I know as my GP told me nothing was the matter .... etc.

Then I went to an EN-T Spec & found out what they thought was Ménière's

Syndrome. I went to a ear specialist and found out that I 'possibly'

have Ménière's Syndrome, but they feel it is more of an Inner brain

imbalance/Auto Immune inner ear disease.

I am getting blood work done & more testing

 

HTH

Becky~

jalisic579 wrote:

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> My sister in law has horrible case of tinnitis. She went to all

> doctors and they did not find anything wrong. She used to have low

> blood pressure, but right now is pretty normal. She has headaches,

of her he

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Jasmina,

Try on of the following:

Cayenne Tincture; Total Nutrition; Brain Formula; DMSO.

Total Nutrition and the Brain Formula are in the files - under Dr.Ian Shillington.

Suzi

 

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Greetings Jasmina,

I too have tinnitis, it developed after a two month bout of Bells

palsy. I have had it for the past 3-4 months now. My GP sent me to an

ENT, who organised special MRI scan, which showed definite damage to

nerves behind the ear, mainly the right ear (it was the right side of

my face which was affected by the Bells palsy). The ENT said the

only 'cure' was to try to ignore the noises, so that they do not

become a problem, when I asked him about any herbal treatments, he

said that some patients have stated that Ginko Bilboa has helped, but

there is no 'scientific' proof. I have just started taking Ginko (5

days) so is too early for results, but I shall continue with it for a

couple of months to be fair. BTW, I am also menopausal and have been

for past 4 years, but it is not believed that my tinnitis is

connected to menopause. My symapthies to your sis as I know just what

she is going through........the headaches are my main nuance.

Good luck.

Kristal

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Kristal,

have you tried panther piss for your headaches?? or feverfew?

Suzi

Kristal <kraditia wrote:

......the headaches are my main nuance.Good luck.Kristal

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Suzanne Nottmeier <suziesgoats> wrote: > have you tried panther

piss for your headaches?? or feverfew? <

 

Thanks Suzi, I cannot stand the taste of feverfew so have not been

taking any, and I never considered the panther piss as a headache

alleviator, shall make some up and try it.

Kristal

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Kristal,

if the panther piss doesn't kick it there is something else going on... I had one and after several doses still had the headache....found out I had several (a bunch) muscles in knots.... once they were worked out - the headache was gone... otherwise panther piss usually works .

Suzi

Kristal <kraditia wrote:

Suzanne Nottmeier wrote: > have you tried panther piss for your headaches?? or feverfew? <Thanks Suzi, I cannot stand the taste of feverfew so have not been taking any, and I never considered the panther piss as a headache alleviator, shall make some up and try it.KristalFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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  • 3 years later...

I hate to say this, but I've been cleansing and detoxing for 10 months now and

my tinitus is

worse than ever. Every other part of my body is rocking with good health,

except for this

nuisance buzz. I've done about 10 liver flushes!

 

I just read somewhere (boy I wish I knew where) that making some garlic oil and

dropping it

into your ears would actually cure this in about 2 months. You are supposed to

cook finely

chopped garlic in olive oil. Smash the garlic as it cooks. Strain it and put

in a dropper bottle.

Put it into your ears at room temperature. I'm going to try it, because I feel

like I've tried

everything else. I'm so sorry I don't remember where I read this...darn it.

 

Good luck!!

 

 

, " Caryl Dennis " <caryllynn2000

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> Has anyone found a cure or relief for tinnitis?

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Tinnitis is known in Chinese Traditional Medicine as Liver Yang

Rising, and it DOES take A LONG time to effect a cure using

acupuncture and herbs to balance out the excess energy going to the

head (from thinking too much?). Wish I have a better answer for you.

 

, " ann4cure " <kazala

wrote:

>

> I hate to say this, but I've been cleansing and detoxing for 10

months now and my tinitus is

> worse than ever. Every other part of my body is rocking with good

health, except for this

> nuisance buzz. I've done about 10 liver flushes!

>

> I just read somewhere (boy I wish I knew where) that making some

garlic oil and dropping it

> into your ears would actually cure this in about 2 months. You

are supposed to cook finely

> chopped garlic in olive oil. Smash the garlic as it cooks.

Strain it and put in a dropper bottle.

> Put it into your ears at room temperature. I'm going to try it,

because I feel like I've tried

> everything else. I'm so sorry I don't remember where I read

this...darn it.

>

> Good luck!!

>

>

> , " Caryl Dennis "

<caryllynn2000@> wrote:

> >

> > Has anyone found a cure or relief for tinnitis?

> >

>

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My Dr. gave me Valium and that seems to help. If you don't want go that route,

try some Valarion Extract in a cup of green tea. That should help.

 

 

 

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, " Caryl Dennis "

<caryllynn2000 wrote:

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> Has anyone found a cure or relief for tinnitis?

 

some info on this --i hve a bigger file too

 

 

this information is of the highest quality and to evaluate it

requires people to have proper evaluation skills.this usually means

digging and testing the information before making any judgement at

all.

I invite you to test it ,as it comes from a source which have

thousands of testimonials acclaiming its authenticity and benefit .

so please have a read.perhaps first i will share with you some

testimonials , some anecdotal but the table is from doctors dentists

etc if that means more to you.

This information is probably more suited to people who have an open

mind or are not prejudiced by their background , who have an

objective approach and will look at anything which shows promise.

 

 

Tinnitus

In drawaing up a protocol for dealing with this there are a number

of principles common to healing in general .

 

Of course and as ever we whole heartedly recommend spiritual, reiki

healing being applied to almost every condition

 

 

1Spiritual healing, Reiki, find a good healer - but someone you

feel an attunement with at a soul level otherwise you can have

negative results making your situation worse. We are know witnessing

one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practices

are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim,

Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others.

 

Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing is one

of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so

many of his healings.

 

Put simply Spiritual Healing, Reiki is the transference of certain

energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or

even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well

outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people

can feel this energy .

 

The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful

which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit

or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a

steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its

limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite.

 

A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy

reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act

as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of

which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit

more energy than smaller wires.

 

Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going

to one healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is

with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or

what have you.

 

Spiritual Healing is natural healing energy, which is present in

this universe. Spiritual healers work in many different ways to some

it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it

can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence

of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people

and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as

beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly

transform it.

Be sure that you have read carefully the Cayce philosophy page as

missing any one of the principles there could cost you in some form –

we know we have done it. these include diet, attitudes, water

intake, exercise etc

 

One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others

where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything

they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce

frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a

great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma.

See other pages on this particularly important treatment.

 

 

 

 

Cayce frequently attributed tinnitus to circulatory problems.

 

Lesions particularly to the external ear canal can form as a result

of poor circulation to the head and face.

 

Toxaemia, congestion and psychological factors anxiety etc played

their part. But tin the main it was circulatory problems at times

with spinal sublaxations. accompanying symptoms included pressure in

the ears, head noises ,deafness, impaction of the Eustachian tube ,

earwax build up, earaches, itching inside the ears and fatigue from

a lack of sleep..

 

Readings in 5 cases recommended osteopathic adjustments particularly

to the cervical and dorsal areas.

General massage to improve circulation as well as the co-ordination

between the sympathetic and cerebrospinal nervous system.

 

Also recommended was hydrotherapy in the form of sweats.

 

Head and neck exercises were also included to improve circulation in

those areas.

The exercises, if taken, these would be this: Head forward three

times, backward three times. To the left three, to the right three,

then the circular motion of the head around the body five times,

then reverse five times. Then arms or neck movement, or the massage,

either or both, would assist the body; and give while the medicinal

properties are being given (that is, night and morning exercises)

medicinal properties once each evening.

 

Surgery was also recommended where the Eustachian tube was affected.

Two of the readings made mention of the people having psychic

experiences and were told to learn mediation..

General cayce diet which is mainly fruit and veg –raw little or no

meat with the exception of fish and fowl. in one case of toxenia

related tinnitus a rigid diet was recommended .

 

Of the seven one did not follow the reading 4 did not send in

reports. two reported they were cured through the advice .one person

also said the treatment cured him of blindness.

 

Also finger surgery is worth looking at too

Reactions noted: Most of these patients show definite improvement so

to warrant this treatment in all cases ofdeafness I feel. E. W. P

 

 

We feel that manipulative finger surgery can do more to correct

these cases than any other single modality. We here wish to

specialize in this sort of work and as we have had some considerable

training both here and abroad we feel that we can succeed. Hundreds

of cases have some form of ear trouble which we feel competent to

attend.

 

" I am familiar with Edgar Cayce's readings and the fact that he

suggested Finger Surgery in many cases of deafness. Iremember, in

1945, my father [Curtis H. Muncie, D.O.] telling me he had several

patients whose hearing he restored as the result of these readings.

 

" I also have had numerous patients who told me about Finger Surgery

being mentioned in Cayce's readings and showed me a reprint of an

article on Deafness published by A.R.E. which mentions Finger

Surgery. [see March, 1974, A.R.E. News.]

 

" As far as I know, there is no one who uses this method of treatment

now. It is not taught in the colleges and it is not an accepted

method of treatment by the A.M.A. Yet we continue restoring hearing

and to many who failed to respond to the regular methods.

 

Find this book PREVENTION AND CURE OF DEAFNESS [Curtis H. Muncie,

D.O., author. See it under reports to 3511-1 after above reports]

and some articles which will interest you.

 

 

 

A man has pioneered a unique method of treating deafness. He was so

successful that word-of-mouth praise brought him the largest ear

practice in the world. His offices occupied the entire 29th floor of

the Hotel Delmonico on Park Avenue in New York City. For 50 years,

until his death in 1963, he treated an average of 75 patients a day,

His name - Dr. Curtis Hamilton Muncie.

 

Dr. Muncie discovered a means of curing most types of deafness which

has been considered absolutely incurable.He toured the United States

and several European countries, holding free clinics and giving

demonstrations of his new found technic for increasing the ability

to hear in deaf

people whose auditory nerves had not degenerated completely.

 

His son, Douglas J. Muncie, D.O., who has been in practice in Miami,

Florida, since 1946 and will soon open another office in Las Vegas,

Nevada, was taught the technic by his father and is the only doctor,

I know of perhaps the only one in the world - who practices this

treatment.

 

 

 

DISCOVERED BY ACCIDENTAn accident discovery (1910) - that the

Eustachian tube in most deafness is deranged or deformed and that it

is large enough to be successfully treated with the finger - marked

the origin of this method. Let me quote from the book of Dr. Muncie,

Senior, Prevention and Cure of Deafness:

 

" A boy of 11 was referred to me for an adenoid operation. He had

been deaf since an attack of scarlet fever, and the best efforts of

otologists had failed to improve his hearing. After removing his

adenoids by the usual method, I examined the nasopharynx with my

finger and found lateral adenoids remaining which had grown about

the orifice of the Eustachian tubes.

 

I broke them down digitally, and while doing so my finger slipped

into a depression and with slight pressure entered to the extent of

about 3/8th of an inch. This I later realized was the Eustachian

tube, but at the time I did not recognize it because anatomical

texts had described the Eustachian tube as being the size of a

goose's quill and thus too small for entrance of the finger.

 

" The boy's hearing was 'miraculously' restored, but in two weeks

some of the improvement was lost. In my effort to determine how the

hearing had been benefited I examined over 500 Eustachian tubes with

my finger while patients were under an anesthetic at our sanatorium.

 

I found the Eustachian tube is large enough to be treated

digitally. I again operated on my little patient, reconstructing his

tubes, and then gave him after-treatment to maintain the tubes in

their correctedcondition until they became normal. His hearing was

restored and remained so for years afterwards. "

 

RESEARCHAfter several years of research in hundreds of cases, Dr.

Muncie consolidated his findings (1920) in concrete and definite

conclusions. He had isolated eight different types of tubal

deformity, of all which cause deafness, and developed and perfected

a specific technic for correction of each deformity, which he

called " Reconstruction of the Eustachian Tubes, " and treatment for

normalization of each type.

 

Dr. Muncie's conclusions checked consistently with physiology,

anatomy, pathology and physics, but obviously disagreed with many

time-honored medical theories. His discoveries combine to make the

Muncie Reconstruction Method revolutionary, both in concept and

results. In the wake of this method were born prejudice, petty

professional jealousy, and bitter opposition by many doctors

 

Reconstruction of the Eustachian tubes is accomplished by a single

operation without the use of cutting instruments. An anesthetic of

nitrous oxide and oxygen is administered. Then the sensitive finger

of the aurist determines the exact type and extent of the tubal

deformity, as well as the condition of the surrounding tissues, and

by means of molding process the deformity of the Eustachian tube is

corrected.

 

 

 

 

Further treatments are then given, without anesthetic, to gently

mold the Eustachian tubes so they will not become deformed again; to

further improve the hearing and make for permanent results. Many

cases achieve 20% to 50% improvement in their hearing, most average

30% improvement.

Thus, a person having 50% hearing and wearing a hearing aid may

receive 20% to 30% improvement and will then be able to hear

normally without an aid.

Other cases with a severe

hearing loss of 70% to 80% can usually be improved so they will have

normal (70-100) hearing with the use of an aid.

 

TYPES OF DEAFNESS WHICH RESPONDDr. Muncie states, " Most deafness can

be prevented and hearing partially or completely restored to a large

percentage of cases through this corrective approach to deafness

without cutting surgery. Patients who have 40% or more hearing are

the most favorable.

 

" The types of deafness successfully treated over the past 59 years

are: catarrhal deafness, otosclerosis, nerve deafness, destroyed

drums or suppurative deafness, Meniere's disease,

some cases of children born deaf or severe deafness in infancy and

aviation deafness.

 

Tinnitus, or ringing in the ears, can be cleared up in eight out of

10 cases

 

Over the years, approximately 60 technical articles written by Dr.

Curtis Muncie and Dr. Douglas Muncie have appeared in various

medical journals, describing the results obtained through this

method of treating deafness. More than 50 Muncie Clinics were held

in the principal cities of America and Europe before scientists and

physicians of all schools and were sponsored by over 30 different

scientific societies of this profession.THE A.M.A. AT WORK

 

 

 

NUTRITION IN DEAFNESSDr. Douglas Muncie supplements his corrective

digital treatment of the Eustachian tubes with the use of natural

concentrates to supply specific nutrition to the inner ear and

auditory nerve. He is a follower of natural health methods, and

claims specific natural concentrates aid in his working with the

deaf.

 

 

 

 

Post-operative treatments are required to establish maximum and

permanent restoration. In most cases immediate improvement of

hearing is established and head noises and vertigo are eventually

eliminated. The amount of Post operative treatment varies with each

individual but the average case requires a minimum of 3 weeks.

Advanced cases require 2 or 3 more months of Post-operative

treatments.

 

 

 

 

 

phil

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Hi,

Tinnitus responds very well to audiotherpy. It can be done at home

and is better than 90% sucessful. I have been doing this with

people throughout the USA and in other countries.

Send me a request off line and I will paste your email into a

paper that I can send you for more info.

Namaste,

David

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-Thanks, but no thanks, I consider it the " Nada " sound. It is not bothersome at

all to me.

 

Someone should introduce ORMUS and David Hudson to this group.

 

I have found, sadly, that noone knows about " the white powder of Gold " = " manna

in the desert " = " philosopher's stone " = " exlier of Life " = " bread of Life " and

more.

 

I have explained to to several people but none of them has understood. It is

clear as quartz to me.

 

I guess people do not want to take the time to read through the lengthy

lectures? This substance is exists as a Bose Einestein Condensate at biological

temperatures. It is a superconductor of electricity, has " TUNNELING " properties,

and can exist in more than one Universe at once.

 

The scientists at the nuclear accelerators have been trying to make this ORMUS

substance, and doing it ONE ATOM AT A TIME. In Arizona in the 1970's a dirt

farmer trying to change the soil pH so he can grow cotton stumbles across a

substance that no technician can analyse. Hudson went to the Soviet Academy of

Science where they did " Wear metal " type carbon arc spectroscopy as we did at

the Amoco Refinerey. The difference was that the Soviets did a 300 second burn

with the arc instead of only 90 seconds done back in the USA. The Soviets also

surronded their carbon electrodes with the inert gas Argon. This kept the carbon

from disentigrating before the burn was completed.

 

What did they find? The substance gave the spectra of the Platinium group

elements. BUT THEY WERE NOT IN METALLIC STATE!!! These rare elements were in a

special high spin state with their electrons bound in " cooper pairs " . This means

that the metals , which normally have lots of electrons, (an electron CLOUD) had

non available.

 

Ormus explains human consiousness and how we are able to think so rapidly in

QUANTUM THEORY related terms. SCIENCE AND SPIRIT COME TOGETHER!!! This ORMUS is

most probably the substance that Jesus and the Essenes used. It gave Jesus the

remarkable ablities reported in the New Testement.

 

It can make each of us that way, and ORMUS metals are 10,000 times more abundent

than the ordinarymetals are in nature. Have you ever wondered why vegaterians

have a better Kundalini experience than the rest of us? Plants are loaded with

ORMUS.

 

This is the most interesting thing I have seen since the beginning of the new

millenium! It takes a lot to make me say: " AH-HA " !

 

David

 

 

>divya4753 <divya4753

>Nov 11, 2006 11:26 AM

>

> Re: Tinnitis

>

> Hi,

> Tinnitus responds very well to audiotherpy. It can be done at home

>and is better than 90% sucessful. I have been doing this with

>people throughout the USA and in other countries.

> Send me a request off line and I will paste your email into a

>paper that I can send you for more info.

> Namaste,

> David

> divya4753

>

>

>

>

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Hi David. Are you trying to say that taking ormus stops tinnitus? And what

TYPE of ormus--as I just joined an ormus list and there are several that

they talk about making. Plus, I have seen other metals besides gold

mentioned as being monoatomic and healthful, yet some of the metals are NOT

healthful--or so I've read. Hard to say at this point which is which, as I'm

reading conflicting reports (well, that's natural--any subject has

conflicting reports, he?) Or are you saying that the ormus gave you the

sound in your ears and you are content with hearing it?

 

Samala

Renee

 

----

 

Someone should introduce ORMUS and David Hudson to this group.

 

I have found, sadly, that noone knows about " the white powder of Gold " =

manna in the desert " = " philosopher's stone " = " exlier of Life " = " bread of

Life " and more.

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Samala: No I am not saying ORMUS relieves my " Tinnitus " which is actually not

tinnitus but the Nada sound associated with God. Ormus did not give me the nada

sound in my HEAD. At some point in one's spiritual journey when they reach

" nonduality " and enlightenment the Nada sound is just there. I am hypothesiising

this. It was true in my case.

 

Ormus, depending on what you extract it from will contain all or less of the

platnium series elements. All monoatomic elements seem to be healful. It is when

some of the metals are in their usually state that they are toxic to humans.

 

This whole thing fits together so well. You can find positive reports about

Ormus just about everywhere on the internet. I have seen posts from people who

think it is a hoax, but I think they simply do not have the background and

openess to understand.

 

Orme in Hebrew means " the Tree of Life " . ORME is the name David Hudson

unwittingly gave the " white powder of gold " substance he invested so much money

in to identify.

 

If you have seen " The Matrix " and its two followup movies, you have seen a

rendering of something else that fits into the ORME thing. the movie " The

Matrix " is about Gnostism. This is a belief that knowledge of the TRUTH is what

saves you not " good works " not even " FAITH " ! The Gnostic belief is that the

Hebrew god in the Old Testement was not God, but a lesser angleic being. The

name used is the Demiurge (spelling?) for this entity. The tree of life and the

tree of the knoweldge of good and evil grew in the Garden of Eden. The peasent

prose of Genisis is further purjorated by the simply Gnostic observation that

EVERYTHING IS BACKWARD. The serpent is our friend, the Demiurge is not.

 

Orme is also associated with the BRANCH LIKE structure of the nervous system,

and out of this comes the link between the Kundalini experience and the tree of

life. From scientists investigating human thought, we find Ormus as a candidate

for the substance in the micro structures of the nerons that explains

consiousness on a quantum level.

 

I guess I have gone on too long.

 

David

 

 

>Renee <gaiacita

>Nov 14, 2006 8:01 AM

>

>Re: Re: Tinnitis

>

>Hi David. Are you trying to say that taking ormus stops tinnitus? And what

>TYPE of ormus--as I just joined an ormus list and there are several that

>they talk about making. Plus, I have seen other metals besides gold

>mentioned as being monoatomic and healthful, yet some of the metals are NOT

>healthful--or so I've read. Hard to say at this point which is which, as I'm

>reading conflicting reports (well, that's natural--any subject has

>conflicting reports, he?) Or are you saying that the ormus gave you the

>sound in your ears and you are content with hearing it?

>

>Samala

>Renee

>

>----

>

>Someone should introduce ORMUS and David Hudson to this group.

>

>I have found, sadly, that noone knows about " the white powder of Gold " =

>manna in the desert " = " philosopher's stone " = " exlier of Life " = " bread of

>Life " and more.

>

>

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, " divya4753 " <divya4753

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> Tinnitus responds very well to audiotherpy. It can be done at home

> and is better than 90% sucessful. I have been doing this with

> people throughout the USA and in other countries.

> Send me a request off line and I will paste your email into a

> paper that I can send you for more info.

> Namaste,

> David

> divya4753

>

 

I got onto this topic late, but would love to get more info on it. My

dad has tinnitus, and he would love to find a cure for it. His doctor

told him about a device you wear in your ear that makes a wind-like

sound. Is audiotherapy the same thing as this? If not, can someone

please explain?

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