Guest guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and down while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i stand but not even sure where exactly for some reason. Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise or lower symptom. What can i take also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone will!!) --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping pills (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. Yes - it is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do some leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always help. I'm sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have anxiety problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You may need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the more reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check with your doctor first! , " Chris " <ttwarrior4 wrote: > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and down > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i stand > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise or lower > symptom. What can i take also. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive seen has horse chestnut in it In , " helen_1947_slaughter " <helen_1947_slaughter wrote: > > > > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone will!!) > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping pills > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. Yes - it > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do some > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always help. I'm > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have anxiety > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You may > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the more > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check with your > doctor first! > > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > wrote: > > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and down > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i stand > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise or lower > > symptom. What can i take also. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 I get it occassionally, but I always thought it was just pent up excess energy. Maybe exercising would cure it to get rid of it and make you sleep better. , " Chris " <ttwarrior4 wrote: > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive seen > has horse chestnut in it > > In , " helen_1947_slaughter " > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone > will!!) > > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping > pills > > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. Yes - > it > > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do > some > > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always > help. I'm > > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have > anxiety > > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You > may > > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the more > > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check with > your > > doctor first! > > > > > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and > down > > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i > stand > > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > > > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise or > lower > > > symptom. What can i take also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 , " Chris " <ttwarrior4 wrote: > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive seen > has horse chestnut in it > One solution for restless legs is tonic water- that actually has quinine in it. I think Schweppes has a variety with the quinine- worked great for my dad! Took a bottle in the evening before going to bed, and no more restless legs! Susan Mann, RN, BSN, Regional Educator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 One really good thing that I've noticed for restless leg syndrome is taking magnesium! I hope you have the same success! cc73162 <cc73162 wrote: I get it occassionally, but I always thought it was just pent up excess energy. Maybe exercising would cure it to get rid of it and make you sleep better. , " Chris " <ttwarrior4 wrote: > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive seen > has horse chestnut in it > > In , " helen_1947_slaughter " > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone > will!!) > > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping > pills > > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. Yes - > it > > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do > some > > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always > help. I'm > > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have > anxiety > > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You > may > > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the more > > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check with > your > > doctor first! > > > > > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and > down > > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i > stand > > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > > > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise or > lower > > > symptom. What can i take also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a number oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under the impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to your knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen , " tiptoptraining " <susanmann wrote: > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > wrote: > > > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive > seen > > has horse chestnut in it > > > One solution for restless legs is tonic water- that actually has > quinine in it. I think Schweppes has a variety with the quinine- > worked great for my dad! Took a bottle in the evening before going to > bed, and no more restless legs! > > Susan Mann, RN, BSN, Regional Educator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Hi, I get what I believe is restless leg syndrome or RLS - in only one leg or the other on certain nights. It only happens at night and it feels like minor impulses that cause my leg to move suddenly. If try to control it - the pulse seem more pronounced and notice it more. Sometimes all it takes is too focus my thoughts and energies onto something else. It only bothers me most, when I am overtired or had a stressful day. My lower legs right now are a little swollen in the evenings because I'm almost 30 weeks pregnant too. Exercising and walking during the day seem to help. I've also done some reflexology on both my feet - after doing a reflexology warm up of my entire foot- especially on the leg that is " jumpy " I press the areas of the foot relating to the lower body. It has helped. Reflexology is helpful for overall body health also- it's easy to learn and really easy to use the techniques while doing something like watching TV in the evening. Or if you have a supportive partner -they could learn it and practice on you! Wouldn't that be nice (LOL)! Karolina , " cc73162 " <cc73162 wrote: > > I get it occassionally, but I always thought it was just pent up > excess energy. Maybe exercising would cure it to get rid of it and > make you sleep better. > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > wrote: > > > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive > seen > > has horse chestnut in it > > > > In , " helen_1947_slaughter " > > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone > > will!!) > > > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping > > pills > > > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. > Yes - > > it > > > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do > > some > > > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always > > help. I'm > > > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have > > anxiety > > > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You > > may > > > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the > more > > > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check > with > > your > > > doctor first! > > > > > > > > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > > > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and > > down > > > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i > > stand > > > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > > > > > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise > or > > lower > > > > symptom. What can i take also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 , " helen_1947_slaughter " <helen_1947_slaughter wrote: > > Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a number > oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under the > impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to your > knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen My experience has been that docs have always been reluctant to order quinine, but until a few years ago it was available over the counter. Now that you have to have a prescription, it's unlikely that most docs will order it, it has been known to cause irregular heartbeats, mainly vemtricular (lower part of heart, potentially dangerous) and also can cause a condition known as QT interval prolongation, which can lead to several heart irregularities, including syncope (loss of consciousness) and sudden death. I've had restless legs for as long as I can remember. I also have symptoms while awake during the day. My treatment has been to take an extra dose of Mg (140mg) and potassium (99mg) and calcium (not sure on dose). I also use an ice pack when it's severe. My doc told me to not use ice, but to use heat, but that seemed to make it worse, not better, so I went back to my ice. Do be careful when using ice OR heat as many of us (especially older people like me, I'm 52) have circulation problems and can easily get damage from the heat or cold. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 -- Hello Chris, I happen to know of a natural Relief to Restless Leg Syndrome sufferers from a 20 year old formula!It is a non-prescription, non-chemical relaxant. Calcium and magnesium are directly responsible for activating striated or skeletal muscle, if the human system lacks these minerals, biomechanincal instability and joint pains occur. Calcium is integral in nerve transmission. If blood calcium concentrations fall, the nerves become hypersensitive, resulting in tetany, which is recognized clinically as severe muscle spasm. Proper calcium levels can prevent Restless Leg Syndrome from happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I developed restless legs right afer menopause. RLS has multiple causes - I've heard that it can be due to dopamine deficiency and that later on it can develop into parkinson's. A new drug - Requip is used for both problems - I read the side effects and didn't want to be exposed to those. Quinine can help, but it requires an rx. If quinine water is still on the market- it can be gradually sipped throughout the day - it's a milder form of the substance. cj , Keith Wyrick <kawman611 wrote: > > One really good thing that I've noticed for restless leg syndrome is taking magnesium! > I hope you have the same success! > > cc73162 <cc73162 wrote: > I get it occassionally, but I always thought it was just pent up > excess energy. Maybe exercising would cure it to get rid of it and > make you sleep better. > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > wrote: > > > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive > seen > > has horse chestnut in it > > > > In , " helen_1947_slaughter " > > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone > > will!!) > > > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping > > pills > > > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. > Yes - > > it > > > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do > > some > > > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always > > help. I'm > > > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have > > anxiety > > > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You > > may > > > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the > more > > > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check > with > > your > > > doctor first! > > > > > > > > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > > > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and > > down > > > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i > > stand > > > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > > > > > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise > or > > lower > > > > symptom. What can i take also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Hi! I started feeling what I believe is also restless leg syndrome right after I got pregnant - even though I am taking a multi-vitamin with extra folic acid, I think that I may also need added calcium - natural and supplement into my diet, based on the post about calcium and magnesium. Getting some daily exercise also helps - walking or stretching the legs. For several years I have been studying self refloxolgy and doing a reflex warm up and using the pressure techniques on certain parts of the feet help also. But I know refloxogoly does a lot of great things to the body as a whole. I've mainly noticed that the RLS (in one leg or the other) seems a little more pronounced when I am tired too. Karolina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I am in the medical field and often see patients with restless legs. Numerous medications for Parkinsons Disease has been found to relieve the symptoms. However, I would first try the suggestion below of magnesium and potassium. Insufficient potassium has often been known to cause leg cramps. In addition, mild to moderate exercise, such as an early evening walk followed by a warm bath, possible with some chamomille may help relieve the aching. If it persists, I would recommend at least getting it checked by a physician, especially if it begins to affect other areas of your bodies. Restless legs are difficult to diagnose based on symptoms alone and could indeed by the early signs of other illnesses. , " Cindy " <Alcinda905 wrote: > > , " helen_1947_slaughter " > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a number > > oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under the > > impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to your > > knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen > > > My experience has been that docs have always been reluctant to order > quinine, but until a few years ago it was available over the counter. > Now that you have to have a prescription, it's unlikely that most docs > will order it, it has been known to cause irregular heartbeats, mainly > vemtricular (lower part of heart, potentially dangerous) and also can > cause a condition known as QT interval prolongation, which can lead to > several heart irregularities, including syncope (loss of > consciousness) and sudden death. > > I've had restless legs for as long as I can remember. I also have > symptoms while awake during the day. > > My treatment has been to take an extra dose of Mg (140mg) and > potassium (99mg) and calcium (not sure on dose). I also use an ice > pack when it's severe. My doc told me to not use ice, but to use heat, > but that seemed to make it worse, not better, so I went back to my ice. > > Do be careful when using ice OR heat as many of us (especially older > people like me, I'm 52) have circulation problems and can easily get > damage from the heat or cold. > > Cindy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 ---Hello, for those of you who suffer from restless leg syndrome i know of a very effective all natural calcium/magnneseum blend powder called A TO B Calm. Here is what one person had to say about this wonderful alternative supplement: " A to B Calm has been a lifesaver in our wholistic practice! It is a non-prescription, non-chemical relaxant. Traditional medical practices use prescription tranquilizers, we use safe, non-toxic A to B Calm. Each pain-stricken patient (whether it be physical or emotional pain) is greeted by one of our caring staff members with a relaxing drink of A to B Calm. Within minutes, the patient feels relief and we are able to work more satisfactorialy during their treatment. We appreciate the wide range of clinical benefits offered by A to B Calm and its influence on the mind/body connection. Yours in health, Carol Port, D.C., M.A. Wholistic Health Institute " For more info visit:http://www.wellnesspartners.com/rls/ the customer service representaives at this small company are very helpful and caring. I hope this helps. Sincerely, melirose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Cindy - thanks for input! 52 - and old huh? LOL. I am (supposed) to be taking a parkinson's related medication for restless legs. It does work - but prefer alternative. Helen , " Jan " <oompdink wrote: > > I am in the medical field and often see patients with restless > legs. Numerous medications for Parkinsons Disease has been found to > relieve the symptoms. However, I would first try the suggestion > below of magnesium and potassium. Insufficient potassium has often > been known to cause leg cramps. In addition, mild to moderate > exercise, such as an early evening walk followed by a warm bath, > possible with some chamomille may help relieve the aching. If it > persists, I would recommend at least getting it checked by a > physician, especially if it begins to affect other areas of your > bodies. Restless legs are difficult to diagnose based on symptoms > alone and could indeed by the early signs of other illnesses. > > , " Cindy " <Alcinda905@> > wrote: > > > > , " helen_1947_slaughter " > > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a > number > > > oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under > the > > > impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to > your > > > knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen > > > > > > My experience has been that docs have always been reluctant to > order > > quinine, but until a few years ago it was available over the > counter. > > Now that you have to have a prescription, it's unlikely that most > docs > > will order it, it has been known to cause irregular heartbeats, > mainly > > vemtricular (lower part of heart, potentially dangerous) and also > can > > cause a condition known as QT interval prolongation, which can > lead to > > several heart irregularities, including syncope (loss of > > consciousness) and sudden death. > > > > I've had restless legs for as long as I can remember. I also have > > symptoms while awake during the day. > > > > My treatment has been to take an extra dose of Mg (140mg) and > > potassium (99mg) and calcium (not sure on dose). I also use an ice > > pack when it's severe. My doc told me to not use ice, but to use > heat, > > but that seemed to make it worse, not better, so I went back to my > ice. > > > > Do be careful when using ice OR heat as many of us (especially > older > > people like me, I'm 52) have circulation problems and can easily > get > > damage from the heat or cold. > > > > Cindy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 i do sometimes. its from inactivity. my mom has it bad. they have meds out but they are not yet right. i just get up and walk it off laura ps i am new Karolina <kvl wrote: Hi! I started feeling what I believe is also restless leg syndrome right after I got pregnant - even though I am taking a multi-vitamin with extra folic acid, I think that I may also need added calcium - natural and supplement into my diet, based on the post about calcium and magnesium. Getting some daily exercise also helps - walking or stretching the legs. For several years I have been studying self refloxolgy and doing a reflex warm up and using the pressure techniques on certain parts of the feet help also. But I know refloxogoly does a lot of great things to the body as a whole. I've mainly noticed that the RLS (in one leg or the other) seems a little more pronounced when I am tired too. Karolina > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 I justed joined this group. I have suffered from RLS since 1976. In my case it is restless FEET syndrome. My feet feel as if someone is tickling them. It drives me up a wall, and happens when I want to go to sleep at night. Walking helps, also Miripex is a God send. I know about the magnesium but did not know about potassium. I have also found that electric feet massagers help to. AT TIMES RLS IS UNBEARABLE FOR ME!!!! Since I found a MD that knew about Miripex things are different. David >helen_1947_slaughter <helen_1947_slaughter >Nov 10, 2006 10:46 AM > > Re: Anyone here ever get restless legs > >Cindy - thanks for input! 52 - and old huh? LOL. I am (supposed) to >be taking a parkinson's related medication for restless legs. It does >work - but prefer alternative. Helen > > , " Jan " <oompdink wrote: >> >> I am in the medical field and often see patients with restless >> legs. Numerous medications for Parkinsons Disease has been found >to >> relieve the symptoms. However, I would first try the suggestion >> below of magnesium and potassium. Insufficient potassium has often >> been known to cause leg cramps. In addition, mild to moderate >> exercise, such as an early evening walk followed by a warm bath, >> possible with some chamomille may help relieve the aching. If it >> persists, I would recommend at least getting it checked by a >> physician, especially if it begins to affect other areas of your >> bodies. Restless legs are difficult to diagnose based on symptoms >> alone and could indeed by the early signs of other illnesses. >> >> , " Cindy " <Alcinda905@> >> wrote: >> > >> > , " helen_1947_slaughter " >> > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a >> number >> > > oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under >> the >> > > impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to >> your >> > > knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen >> > >> > >> > My experience has been that docs have always been reluctant to >> order >> > quinine, but until a few years ago it was available over the >> counter. >> > Now that you have to have a prescription, it's unlikely that most >> docs >> > will order it, it has been known to cause irregular heartbeats, >> mainly >> > vemtricular (lower part of heart, potentially dangerous) and also >> can >> > cause a condition known as QT interval prolongation, which can >> lead to >> > several heart irregularities, including syncope (loss of >> > consciousness) and sudden death. >> > >> > I've had restless legs for as long as I can remember. I also have >> > symptoms while awake during the day. >> > >> > My treatment has been to take an extra dose of Mg (140mg) and >> > potassium (99mg) and calcium (not sure on dose). I also use an ice >> > pack when it's severe. My doc told me to not use ice, but to use >> heat, >> > but that seemed to make it worse, not better, so I went back to >my >> ice. >> > >> > Do be careful when using ice OR heat as many of us (especially >> older >> > people like me, I'm 52) have circulation problems and can easily >> get >> > damage from the heat or cold. >> > >> > Cindy >> > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 I no it is going to sound crazy but put a bar of Ivory soap under the covers with you when you sleep I tried it & it realy did help I also no several other people it worked for David <zetrone wrote: I justed joined this group. I have suffered from RLS since 1976. In my case it is restless FEET syndrome. My feet feel as if someone is tickling them. It drives me up a wall, and happens when I want to go to sleep at night. Walking helps, also Miripex is a God send. I know about the magnesium but did not know about potassium. I have also found that electric feet massagers help to. AT TIMES RLS IS UNBEARABLE FOR ME!!!! Since I found a MD that knew about Miripex things are different. David >helen_1947_slaughter <helen_1947_slaughter >Nov 10, 2006 10:46 AM > > Re: Anyone here ever get restless legs > >Cindy - thanks for input! 52 - and old huh? LOL. I am (supposed) to >be taking a parkinson's related medication for restless legs. It does >work - but prefer alternative. Helen > > , " Jan " <oompdink wrote: >> >> I am in the medical field and often see patients with restless >> legs. Numerous medications for Parkinsons Disease has been found >to >> relieve the symptoms. However, I would first try the suggestion >> below of magnesium and potassium. Insufficient potassium has often >> been known to cause leg cramps. In addition, mild to moderate >> exercise, such as an early evening walk followed by a warm bath, >> possible with some chamomille may help relieve the aching. If it >> persists, I would recommend at least getting it checked by a >> physician, especially if it begins to affect other areas of your >> bodies. Restless legs are difficult to diagnose based on symptoms >> alone and could indeed by the early signs of other illnesses. >> >> , " Cindy " <Alcinda905@> >> wrote: >> > >> > , " helen_1947_slaughter " >> > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a >> number >> > > oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under >> the >> > > impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to >> your >> > > knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen >> > >> > >> > My experience has been that docs have always been reluctant to >> order >> > quinine, but until a few years ago it was available over the >> counter. >> > Now that you have to have a prescription, it's unlikely that most >> docs >> > will order it, it has been known to cause irregular heartbeats, >> mainly >> > vemtricular (lower part of heart, potentially dangerous) and also >> can >> > cause a condition known as QT interval prolongation, which can >> lead to >> > several heart irregularities, including syncope (loss of >> > consciousness) and sudden death. >> > >> > I've had restless legs for as long as I can remember. I also have >> > symptoms while awake during the day. >> > >> > My treatment has been to take an extra dose of Mg (140mg) and >> > potassium (99mg) and calcium (not sure on dose). I also use an ice >> > pack when it's severe. My doc told me to not use ice, but to use >> heat, >> > but that seemed to make it worse, not better, so I went back to >my >> ice. >> > >> > Do be careful when using ice OR heat as many of us (especially >> older >> > people like me, I'm 52) have circulation problems and can easily >> get >> > damage from the heat or cold. >> > >> > Cindy >> > >> > > > > Michele Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Let us not rule out the possiblity that RLS is a sign of AWAKENING or Kundalini. IN 1976 or around that time I began to experience Kundalini. At this same time I encountered the RLS. In the beginning I did not know the name for either of these phonomes. People have had many problems with their AWAKENINGS. Sometimes they get classified as some sort of mental illness. We might as well include Tinnitis here also. I assume there is a real medical condition called Tinnitis, which can be shown to be a pathological condition. However, my Tinnitis and , I think most people's Tinnitis is something else. This situation also is related to AWAKENING. There is a SOUND that is generally associated with meditation and mysticism. This sound is likened to the sound produced by a large number of honey bees in a blooming orchard. It is know as the GOD SOUND. If one has an IMAGE of God then there should also be a SOUND of God. " In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God. " John. The WORD is Tinnitis, at least in my case. This high pitched sound can also be heard in a sensory depravation tank, in this case it is labeled as brain noise. The Tinnitis is no problem for me, but RLS can drive me up a wall. David >Blsbee <blsbee >Nov 9, 2006 5:08 PM > > Re: Anyone here ever get restless legs > >I developed restless legs right afer menopause. RLS has multiple >causes - I've heard that it can be due to dopamine deficiency and that >later on it can develop into parkinson's. A new drug - Requip is used >for both problems - I read the side effects and didn't want to be >exposed to those. Quinine can help, but it requires an rx. If >quinine water is still on the market- it can be gradually sipped >throughout the day - it's a milder form of the substance. > >cj > > , Keith Wyrick ><kawman611 wrote: >> >> One really good thing that I've noticed for restless leg syndrome is >taking magnesium! >> I hope you have the same success! >> >> cc73162 <cc73162 wrote: >> I get it occassionally, but I always thought it was just >pent up >> excess energy. Maybe exercising would cure it to get rid of it and >> make you sleep better. >> >> , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> >> wrote: >> > >> > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive >> seen >> > has horse chestnut in it >> > >> > In , " helen_1947_slaughter " >> > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone >> > will!!) >> > > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping >> > pills >> > > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. >> Yes - >> > it >> > > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do >> > some >> > > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always >> > help. I'm >> > > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have >> > anxiety >> > > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You >> > may >> > > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the >> more >> > > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check >> with >> > your >> > > doctor first! >> > > >> > > >> > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my >> > > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and >> > down >> > > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i >> > stand >> > > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. >> > > > >> > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise >> or >> > lower >> > > > symptom. What can i take also. >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 , michele braun <darwinsmonkey2000 wrote: > > I no it is going to sound crazy but put a bar of Ivory soap under the covers with you when you sleep I tried it & it realy did help I also no several other people it worked for > hehehe....I tried this also and it did work....for a while. I was laughed at on another board for suggesting it (I was told any kind of soap), but a few people tried it and it worked. Seems to only work for a while tho....at least for me. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 I have had good luck with Malic Acid with Magnesium by Sunray. RLS was waking me up nightly, worse with increased exercise, ironic that exercising at night helped symptoms. I have used other sources of magnesium, even the liquid stuff they give you before colon x-rays but in small (1 oz) dose per evening. My Chinese medicine doc who is an acupuncturist has given me an herbal remedy which also worked. Sheri L RN Keith Wyrick Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:39 PM Re: Re: Anyone here ever get restless legs One really good thing that I've noticed for restless leg syndrome is taking magnesium! I hope you have the same success! cc73162 <cc73162 wrote: I get it occassionally, but I always thought it was just pent up excess energy. Maybe exercising would cure it to get rid of it and make you sleep better. , " Chris " <ttwarrior4 wrote: > > bump, for a herbal remedy that doesnt raise bp. all the ones ive seen > has horse chestnut in it > > In , " helen_1947_slaughter " > <helen_1947_slaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what herbal medicine you can take (i'm sure someone > will!!) > > --- however if you are taking pain pills, ibuprofin or sleeping > pills > > (especially in excess) that will cause restless leg syndrome. Yes - > it > > is actually a medical condition. It may help to walk around or do > some > > leg movement exercise - but unfortunately that does not always > help. I'm > > sorry -- i don't remember for sure -- but didn't you also have > anxiety > > problems? Anxiety meds may also cause restless leg syndrome. You > may > > need to cut down on the anxiety medication --- which is all the more > > reason to use alternative methods for your anxiety! Do check with > your > > doctor first! > > > > > > , " Chris " <ttwarrior4@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Now you can add restless legs, shaking and nervousness to my > > > conditions. I shake my leg back and forth , or my knees up and > down > > > while on the computer , watching tv. I can even feel it when i > stand > > > but not even sure where exactly for some reason. > > > > > > Is it my bp med verapamil, or a blood pressure trying to rise or > lower > > > symptom. What can i take also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Excellent, important point! Please consult your MD when making such changes. One can get too much of anything including magnesium. Sheri L RN Cindy Thursday, November 09, 2006 11:30 AM Re: Anyone here ever get restless legs , " helen_1947_slaughter " <helen_1947_slaughter wrote: > > Susan --- must put my two cents in --- I took quinine pills a number > oof years ago for restless legs ----- stopped when I was under the > impression quinine was not good for the heart --- will defer to your > knowledge on this --- just a warning --- Helen My experience has been that docs have always been reluctant to order quinine, but until a few years ago it was available over the counter. Now that you have to have a prescription, it's unlikely that most docs will order it, it has been known to cause irregular heartbeats, mainly vemtricular (lower part of heart, potentially dangerous) and also can cause a condition known as QT interval prolongation, which can lead to several heart irregularities, including syncope (loss of consciousness) and sudden death. I've had restless legs for as long as I can remember. I also have symptoms while awake during the day. My treatment has been to take an extra dose of Mg (140mg) and potassium (99mg) and calcium (not sure on dose). I also use an ice pack when it's severe. My doc told me to not use ice, but to use heat, but that seemed to make it worse, not better, so I went back to my ice. Do be careful when using ice OR heat as many of us (especially older people like me, I'm 52) have circulation problems and can easily get damage from the heat or cold. Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 My Mom had it when I was young. Her Wholistic MD told her to cut out all caffeine. It worked in about 4 days & after 2 weeks she was totally fine. I was so impressed that I cut out my caffeine also. I'm sure we are both healthier for it. ~*~%~*~Sharri Lorraine~*~%~*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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