I have a question on Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue

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Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

[Guest guest]

I would seek out a good Yoga teacher, not one in the Iyengar lineage as they

teach Yoga meant for young, flexible people but one who emphasizes the breath,

and can modify the poses for anyone. I am a Yoga teacher in the Krisnamacharya

lineage, we are taught to modify the practice for all levels, even people

bedridden with strokes have been healed with this. I may be able to reccommend

a teacher if you let me know where you are. Feel free to email me privately.

Good luck to you!

 

John Miller

 

Mystical <mysticalpanthr wrote:

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi, I would recommend that you buy the book " From

Fatigued To Fantastic " by Dr. Jacob Teitelbum and then

do exactly what it says. It was the only program that

really helped me overcome chronic fatigue syndrome and

the associated pain. I also recommend that you go

online and find the EFT website. EFT is the emotional

freedom therapy technique developed by Gary Craig and

is extremely helpful in overcoming pain. You can

download the manual for free and purchase the videos

later if you like. There is NO disease that the body

cannot heal if we can just find the right approach to

help it and tap into all the wonders and mysteries

that are built into our immune and healing systems.

Stay positive and have faith in your ability to

overcome this disease. Best wishes, Melba

 

--- Mystical <mysticalpanthr wrote:

 

> Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have

> Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and

> Multiple chemical

> sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at

> all. Does anyone

> have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain

> I have 24 / 7 365

> days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications

> by a dr but that

> are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for

> alternative ways

> to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have

> to take them I

> won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last

> minute before I have

> to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this

> pain that I have

> - I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the

> pain and I am 40

> yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical

> dr. that I have

> to move around some otherwise i can end up in a

> wheelchair at 40 but

> when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of

> one teen and

> remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has

> his times where

> he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has

> ANY ideas of any

> ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and

> meds Please help me (

> What I have is not cureable yet - but they research

> it everyday

> though) Please help me

>

> Mystical Panthr

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry to hear that you are in so much pain! Certainly you've tried

massage?! Massage affects all the systems of the body and when received

regularly can really improve pain, mood, and give you more energy.

 

~Connie

 

 

Mystical <mysticalpanthr wrote:

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

All I can offer is what I found helped me, but first I want to offer that

when you are in this type of pain all the time, your mind does not function

properly. For me is was if I was living in a time warp of some sort. I

would know that I was getting worse but now I realize that there is a

threshold that you pass where you can no longer be trusted to know how sick

you really are. So when the doctor prescribes PRN and you hate to pop

pills, you go over this threshold and until someone who loves you tells you

that you need to do something, you just keep spirally downward.

 

 

 

What worked best for me were self hypnosis, self massage with pressure

points and hot baths. The hot baths is the easiest but really important.

When you are in constant pain like this the muscles are always contracting

and swelling and this impedes blood flow. Hot baths or access to a hot tub

if you have it helps the blood vessels to expand and increases blood flow.

If your muscles are ever to return to a healthy state which they can and

will, you need for your body to be able to nourish them, so blood flow is

important.

 

 

 

The other issue for me was to stop the pain even is only for a few minutes.

Accupressure is very effective as it serves as a switch that can turn off

the electrical impulses to your mind and for a moment, that part of your

body is not screaming that it is hurt. Everything below the pressure point

has a momentary experience of relaxation. Combine the acupressure with your

hot bath can be very effective. This is not a quick fix but you did not get

into this state in a short period of time either. The first step is just to

stop its progression. If you do that then your body will start allowing

healing to happen.

 

 

 

Self Hypnosis that begins with breathing techniques. Hypnosis has been used

to block pain for all types of reasons including childbirth and surgery.

Once again, if you can maintain 15 minutes of self hypnosis, you will have

tripped the switch that is continually telling you that your body is in

pain. Breathing techniques will bring relaxation and increases the oxygen

in the blood. For me this is the most powerful tool we have.

 

 

 

My mother had advanced emphysema and was 76 years old when she agreed to be

put on a ventilator as a treatment. She did not want to stay on it and she

was specific about that. After about 6 weeks and no progress, the doctors

said she would have to stay on it tell she died. We had to fight but we

knew she would not want that and finally they agreed and they " pulled the

plug. " She was a feisty little thing and came through just fine. We took

her home but she signed a living will. She was in serious trouble a few

months later and we took her back to the hospital. The doctor just said

that we had agreed not to use any " life support " so there was nothing he

would do. She would most likely die within a few hours and left the room.

I pulled the curtain close and began a soft meditation and mother " went

under " very quickly. I gave her messages that would enable her to relax and

develop a steady natural breathing pattern. The nurse walked in and I think

she thought I had lost my mind. It worked, we brought her home and I taught

her how to do self hypnosis and for her to instruct herself to slow her

breathing and develop a natural rhythm. She stuck around for three more

years and was only bed ridden for one week.

 

 

 

Since you have some chemical sensitivity, I am not sure if my final pain

relief method will work, but chocolate is a powerful but temporary pain

reliever. Different chocolate works best for different people, so you will

have to experiment to see what works for you. Mine is Symphony Bars and

Kroger Chocolate baking chunks. Can't explain it because dark chocolate is

thought to be best but not for me.

 

 

 

One last thought, don't forget to stretch. Open up the body so that you are

not all curled in a ball. Use a favorite slow song and just move slowly and

stretch and keep the mind focused on the music.

 

 

 

Light and healing sent your way,

 

Vivian

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of Mystical

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:06 PM

 

I have a question on Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue

 

 

 

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Mystical Panthr,

I also have Fibromyalgia. I'm curious are you also hypothyroid? I am and have

noticed that when my TSH levels are up I have more muscle pain. Several things

have been helpful to me are the sleep and pain management tapes at:

http://www.hemi-sync.com/store/home.php

You can often find the CDs on eBay

 

Meditation is also beneficial as well as massage.

Your doctor is correct you need to try to move as much as possible. What about

water exercises or swimming? Gentle yoga? Make it a point to walk around the

house several times a day. Start small and gradually work up.

 

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

 

Peace,

Linda

Mystical <mysticalpanthr wrote:

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I feel your pain. I was diagnosed with HCV, for 20 years the Dr's thought I

had CFS. I am

doing electric medicine, colloidal silver, magnetic pulsing, and castor oil

packs with good

results. I have recently started fulvic acid. My symptoms have improved 90%

over the last

2 months. You may want to check out curezone, and Bob Beck's .

Think positive,

Lynne

 

Mystical <mysticalpanthr wrote:

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

It sounds like you are having a lot of the same issues that a dear

friend of mine has dealt with for a long time. She was once in so

much constant pain that she walked with a cane and rarely was able to

join the rest of us girls on long days out if there was a lot of

walking involved. About 3 years ago, my friend decided to try an

experiment of sorts. She did a full body cleanse, then switched to an

almost totally raw/macrobiotic diet. After several months, she was

able to put that cane away and put most of the medications she was

taking in the back of the medicine cabinet. The change in her is

amazing. She still has regular massage sessions with someone who

specializes in myofacial release, and the raw foods diet is her way of

life. She does change things up every now and then with a little

broiled or grilled chicken, and she sometimes cooks her veggies. It

takes a lot of work to stick to healthy foods, but to be virtually

pain free is well worth it for her.

[Guest guest]

Perhaps you mean Ashtanga, not Iyenger. Iyenger focuses on alignment, and

Mr. Iyenger was trained by by Krishnamacharya, his brother-in-law.

>

>I would seek out a good Yoga teacher, not one in the Iyengar lineage as

>they teach Yoga meant for young, flexible people but one who emphasizes the

>breath, and can modify the poses for anyone. I am a Yoga teacher in the

>Krisnamacharya lineage, we are taught to modify the practice for all

>levels, even people bedridden with strokes have been healed with this. I

>may be able to reccommend a teacher if you let me know where you are. Feel

>free to email me privately. Good luck to you!

>

> John Miller

 

>

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[Guest guest]

No, I do mean Iyengar, I am aware he was trained by Krishnamacharya as a young

man, left him as his teacher, had essentially no teacher, no correspondence with

Krishnamacharya in a student sense which goes against the teachings of Yoga. He

then started teaching what he had learned, was being taught as a young man which

was Yoga for young, flexible people, suitable for him at the time but not as he

or anyone ages and grows in their practice. Yoga practice is meant to change

from body centered to breath to mind and then to self. Iyengar never stayed

with his teacher long enough to learn these things and Krishnamacharya learned

how to modify for all until he died at 100 in 1989. The only teacher to stay

with him is his son TKV Desikachar, who I have met several times, in the US and

India, and have taken several workshops with his son, Kausthub, who I know and

knows me and is my teacher's teacher. Yes, you are also right about Ashtanga,

Pattabhi Jois, the founder follows

the same story line as Iyengar pretty much.

 

Bevacqui <etain369 wrote:

 

 

Perhaps you mean Ashtanga, not Iyenger. Iyenger focuses on alignment, and

Mr. Iyenger was trained by by Krishnamacharya, his brother-in-law.

>

>I would seek out a good Yoga teacher, not one in the Iyengar lineage as

>they teach Yoga meant for young, flexible people but one who emphasizes the

>breath, and can modify the poses for anyone. I am a Yoga teacher in the

>Krisnamacharya lineage, we are taught to modify the practice for all

>levels, even people bedridden with strokes have been healed with this. I

>may be able to reccommend a teacher if you let me know where you are. Feel

>free to email me privately. Good luck to you!

>

> John Miller

 

>

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---hi

i am moved by your plight and will share what i have on the

information side

 

OVERVIEW OF THERAPEUTIC REGIME

The treatments recommended in the Cayce readings on fibromyalgia are

mainly directed toward improving the digestive, circulatory,

nervous, and eliminating systems.

 

Diet, moderate exercise, a mild form of energy medicine (Radial

Appliance), spinal manipulations and general massage, colon

irrigation, and castor oil packs are therapies intended to improve

these vital systemic functions.

 

As was typical of Cayce's holistic approach, the mental and

spiritual aspects of therapy were emphasized.

Here are the basic therapies recommended for the treatment of

fibromyalgia based on the Cayce information on this disorder:

1. 1. INTERNAL CLEANSING: Hydrotherapy includes drinking six to

eight glasses of pure water daily, colonic irrigations (preferably)

or enemas, and a cleansing diet of fresh fruits and vegetables.

2.

Castor oil packs across the abdomen are recommended to improve

eliminations through the liver and colon. Mild laxatives may be

helpful if constipation is a problem. Fume baths assist with

elimination of toxins through the skin.

 

3. MANUAL THERAPY (SPINAL MANIPULATION AND MASSAGE): Osteopathic or

chiropractic treatment is recommended to relieve any pressures that

may be hindering circulation and decreasing eliminations. Gentle

massage is suggested to relax the body and improve circulation and

eliminations.

 

4. DIET: The Basic Cayce Diet is intended to improve assimilation

and elimination. The diet focuses heavily on keeping a proper

alkaline/acid balance while avoiding foods which produce toxicity

and drain the system. Essentially, the diet consists mainly of

fruits and vegetables while avoiding fried foods and refined

carbohydrates ( " junk food " ). Certain food combinations are

emphasized.

 

 

5. ENERGY MEDICINE: In addition to the above therapies which will

tend to improve circulation, the Radial Appliance is recommended to

further assist in increasing relaxation and nervous system

coordination. Edgar Cayce said that this appliance would be helpful

for anyone having problems with disturbed sleep and fatigue.

 

6. MEDICINE: A ginseng tonic is recommended to improve digestion and

eliminations. Small dosages of beef juice are recommended for

persons who experience significant fatigue and lack of vitality.

 

 

7. MODERATE EXERCISE: Walking or other moderate exercise is

recommended. Be outdoors in the open as much as possible.

 

8. ATTITUDES AND EMOTIONS: The mental and emotional aspects of

healing are frequently discussed in the Cayce readings.

Particularly, an attitude of desiring and expecting to be healed is

important. A positive mental and emotional attitude and can be

created and maintained by focusing on a high purpose (ideal) for

being healed.

 

 

 

*FIBROMYALGIA LINKED TO IBS*

 

The Edgar Cayce readings consistently maintain that problems in the

bowel can produce systemic conditions. A recent medical study echoes

this theme.

 

Researchers at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los

Angeles,California may have discovered a simple test that links

fibromyalgia (acondition manifesting as muscle pain) with irritable

bowel syndrome (orIBS, a condition involving abdominal pain,

bloating, and diarrhea).

 

The lactulose breath test (LBT) is used to assess for the presence

of microbes in the bowel in cases of IBS. Some previous studies have

found that nearly one-third of fibromyalgia patients also have IBS.

 

The study, published in the Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases

(April2004), explored the hypothesis that LBT would be abnormal in

both IBS and fibromyalgia patients. The researchers recruited 42

fibromyalgia patients, 111 IBS patients, and 15 healthy control

subjects who were

given the LBT.

 

All the patients with fibromyalgia exhibited abnormal LBT results

compared to 84 percent in the IBS group and 20 percent in the

control group. Furthermore, the amount of hydrogen gas detected in

the LBT correlated with the level of pain in the fibromyalgia

patients.

i would of course add spiritual healing to this regime

phil

 

In , " Mystical "

<mysticalpanthr wrote:

>

> Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

> sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does

anyone

> have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7

365

> days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but

that

> are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative

ways

> to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

> won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I

have

> to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I

have

> - I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am

40

> yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I

have

> to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40

but

> when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

> remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times

where

> he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of

any

> ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help

me (

> What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

> though) Please help me

>

> Mystical Panthr

>

[Guest guest]

My husband has fibro and going organic has made a big improvement in his

conditions.

My massage therapist says that her clients who follow the eat right 4 your

blood type diet show improvement, too.

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Mystical

Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:06 PM

 

I have a question on Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue

 

 

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Yes My support group leader has also gone the organic way too and it seems to be

helping

- thank you for your reply

 

Mystiacl Panthr

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Martha Nichols-Ketchum "

<drmartha

wrote:

>

> My husband has fibro and going organic has made a big improvement in his

> conditions.

> My massage therapist says that her clients who follow the eat right 4 your

> blood type diet show improvement, too.

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Mystical

> Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:06 PM

>

> I have a question on Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue

>

>

> Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

> sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

> have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

> days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

> are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

> to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

> won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

> to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

> - I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

> yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

> to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

> when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

> remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

> he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

> ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

> What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

> though) Please help me

>

> Mystical Panthr

>

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Thank you for your reply I will be checking into this book

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

 

 

, Melba Dagan <merada555 wrote:

>

> Hi, I would recommend that you buy the book " From

> Fatigued To Fantastic " by Dr. Jacob Teitelbum and then

> do exactly what it says. It was the only program that

> really helped me overcome chronic fatigue syndrome and

> the associated pain. I also recommend that you go

> online and find the EFT website. EFT is the emotional

> freedom therapy technique developed by Gary Craig and

> is extremely helpful in overcoming pain. You can

> download the manual for free and purchase the videos

> later if you like. There is NO disease that the body

> cannot heal if we can just find the right approach to

> help it and tap into all the wonders and mysteries

> that are built into our immune and healing systems.

> Stay positive and have faith in your ability to

> overcome this disease. Best wishes, Melba

>

> --- Mystical <mysticalpanthr wrote:

>

> > Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have

> > Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> > Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and

> > Multiple chemical

> > sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at

> > all. Does anyone

> > have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain

> > I have 24 / 7 365

> > days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications

> > by a dr but that

> > are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for

> > alternative ways

> > to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have

> > to take them I

> > won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last

> > minute before I have

> > to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this

> > pain that I have

> > - I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the

> > pain and I am 40

> > yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical

> > dr. that I have

> > to move around some otherwise i can end up in a

> > wheelchair at 40 but

> > when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of

> > one teen and

> > remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has

> > his times where

> > he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has

> > ANY ideas of any

> > ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and

> > meds Please help me (

> > What I have is not cureable yet - but they research

> > it everyday

> > though) Please help me

> >

> > Mystical Panthr

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello!

 

Both of these dis-eases are a direct cause of over stimulation.

Fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome.

 

Tooooooo much stress. And not near enough sleeping.

You would be surprised at what lack of sleep will do to your body, then add on

top of that , years of stress overload.

 

Most fibro and chronic f syndrome patients are women, that are in constant

over drive

mode. Standing constantly at attention for the next thing in life to blow you

from one side of your life to the other. On over load from taking it all on

their selves, doing too much for other people who are perfectly able to do for

themselves. It means that yes, you have to learn to say no to some of your

obligations, so called obligations, your poepl that dont really need your help

need to grow up and take some responsibility for their own life. And make real

time outs for your self. Real time every week. Everyday. yes you are

allowed. So that you can take care of you..

 

Sometimes as Moms and Dads we foster that neediness in our chidren to fill

some hole in our own life. Then the spoiled human being expects your undivided

attention all the time. Then add several of these humans making demands on you.

And of course, you want to please everyone. ANd then you end up on overload,

and women and men endure this heavy load or burden for years. Then add to that

the reall things in life, that you really need to be on high alert for, divorce,

money problems, child illness, teenager problems, problems at work, the laundry

needs to be done the dishes, I have to pick up so and so, I still need to write

that paper, and lovey auntie wants me over every day to read to her and....You

get what Im saying.

 

We think we are invincible until we hear of someones death close to our own

age...

How could that be? that is so scary! But we are living the same kind of life

if you have these dis-eases in your life.

 

Its a much over used cliche these days but very true.

 

We are human beings not human doings. Anything else is pure ego driven.

Making your ego happy or someone elses near you, push, push, pushing you all the

time to do more, or you have the idea, what you are doing is never enough.

 

Like the bald lady said years ago...STOP the madness!

You and only you can do this. And do it for yourself.

 

Think of when you are outside, or anywhere and you are not properly dressed

for the cold and your body starts to get the shakes, that tense- ness. Now you

cant get out of the cold for whatever reason, watching your child play football

or whatever. When you finally come inside, your bones and muscles ache really

bad sometimes, depending on how long you had to be in the cold. That tense,

hurting kind of feeling takes a day or 2 sometimes to go away fully and

definetly a hot bath will help.

 

That is what your body is like on fibro and CFS. You have been stressed and

not sleeping not eating right inorder to be at the ready for the next thing to

hit you.

 

You didnt slow down to eat a proper meal, exercise regulary and vigorously,

you didnt take time to meditate or do yoga or something to free your mind and

truly calm you and get away from the overstimulating day or people constantly

making demands of you!

 

Some days you get everything done, other days nothing at all. ANd thats ok!

Really ok!

 

All the time, you are only one person and your energy reaches and touches more

than you know just by your thoughts alone! No you dont have to build Rome in

one day. No you are not God and need to get it done by the end of the week.

 

But your time and energy are really the most valuable things you own.

And you need to be more wise with your energy and time. You need to show your

children it is ok to do something nice for yourself, its ok to recharge your

batteries on a regular basis. We want our children to see us doing this! If

not, then we've just raised our children to lead the same, exact same stressed

to death lives that we lead.

And nope, I couldnt bare to watch my children stress theirselves out and be on

overload the way Ive allowed myself to get sometimes. My do warned me to slow

down or I would soon be on the list as having one of these 2 dis-eases.

 

I already have some of the stress that goes with the fibro clicking in my jaw,

locking up. But regular exercise, I take my 2 labs to the park and we walk

trails part run for an hour in the woods, do 30-100 sit ups and add some hand

weights that are sitting here by me while Im at the computer. I use them as I

read and it keeps away the carpal sydrome too.

 

Eat real whole grains, nothing out of a box. Bag ok. This was sort of a rule

of thumb we went by at the health food store. If it comes in a bag ok, no box.

Doesnt always work, but most of the time its true. sooo that means fruit and

veggies. Get away from processed foods as much as possible, thats extra stress

to digest, extra energy that you could be using somewhere else in your life.

 

And about the blowing from one side of life to the other...learn to go with

the flows of life. Remember merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream. Row

row your boat gently down the stream. Make some plans for you in your life, so

you arent constantly left to the whims and emotions of others. That means

having your own morals and ethics and values. You gotta stand for something or

your gonna fall for everything!!! Literally!

Life WILL push and pull you from one stand point to the other, if you are

constantly changing your viewpoint to make others happy. Then what are yours?

 

Its your life, now get in the front seat and quit letting others bully you

into doing their bidding day and night. Get your power and energy back for you.

It doesnt mean we are selfish or dont care. Others will try to place these

labels on you as you try to take some meaning back for yourself. Honoring

yourself IS honoring others, no matter what it may seem like at the time. They

will bully and harass you, you've grown accustomed to this behavior, on your

knees for others. Stop it. Stand up.

 

Would you want to think you are hurting others by doing for them all the time?

You are. You are interfering with their karma, what their energy is to work out

too this life time. ANd you are here to work on certain things too! And when

you are doing thngs that you dont feel like doing, because you feel obligated or

you have to or they guilt you into it. STOP that isnt the reason for doing

anything for anybody! If fact its a direct sign to to you to stop it already.

If your energy feels heavy, too serious, that is a sign to stop. That is a sign

that your energy is being used against you so to speak, draining you leaving

you. You should feel light and airy, merrily merrily. Im doing it because I

want to.

 

And it means your overbearing, mother, father, spouse or child, neighbor,

whomever is responsible for their life, not you. And to those that have been

using you as a crutch all these years, making you stand at constant attention

to be ready for their needs will have to accept that respsonsibility

theirselves. Period! You are in pain mentally and physically.

 

You see, that is why these dis-eases are so hard to diagnose. Usually the

patient has no clue, consciously, that they have put theirselves in the middle

of all of such a situation, but its very true. All you know is that you ache,

you felt the stress overload some years ago, but pushed it all down inside, away

from where you would be faced with dealing with it and them. Saying no. Its

harder than you think for alot of people!

 

And chances are, your own parents did not teach you, the value of you and that

it was alright to rest your mind and your body. Or even how to do it for that

matter. So you must do this for yourself and your children and actually

generations to come. This kind of over worrying over drive stress is inherited.

Someone taught you to do this by example!

 

And one more thing. stop using your sexuality to get your way too! I dont

think this one needs no explaining, men and women you know who you are. Stop

the stress!

No one but you can do it.

 

I hope this helps!

Nope, its not a quick fix!

It took you years to get to feeling this bad.

It will take some time to change some old

ways of thinking and looking at your life through different eyes!

 

Tina Ranieri

Cosmetologist

Food Couselor

Counseling

teacher

aerobic instructor

 

 

 

pjb12345uk <pho wrote:

---hi

i am moved by your plight and will share what i have on the

information side

 

OVERVIEW OF THERAPEUTIC REGIME

The treatments recommended in the Cayce readings on fibromyalgia are

mainly directed toward improving the digestive, circulatory,

nervous, and eliminating systems.

 

Diet, moderate exercise, a mild form of energy medicine (Radial

Appliance), spinal manipulations and general massage, colon

irrigation, and castor oil packs are therapies intended to improve

these vital systemic functions.

 

As was typical of Cayce's holistic approach, the mental and

spiritual aspects of therapy were emphasized.

Here are the basic therapies recommended for the treatment of

fibromyalgia based on the Cayce information on this disorder:

1. 1. INTERNAL CLEANSING: Hydrotherapy includes drinking six to

eight glasses of pure water daily, colonic irrigations (preferably)

or enemas, and a cleansing diet of fresh fruits and vegetables.

2.

Castor oil packs across the abdomen are recommended to improve

eliminations through the liver and colon. Mild laxatives may be

helpful if constipation is a problem. Fume baths assist with

elimination of toxins through the skin.

 

3. MANUAL THERAPY (SPINAL MANIPULATION AND MASSAGE): Osteopathic or

chiropractic treatment is recommended to relieve any pressures that

may be hindering circulation and decreasing eliminations. Gentle

massage is suggested to relax the body and improve circulation and

eliminations.

 

4. DIET: The Basic Cayce Diet is intended to improve assimilation

and elimination. The diet focuses heavily on keeping a proper

alkaline/acid balance while avoiding foods which produce toxicity

and drain the system. Essentially, the diet consists mainly of

fruits and vegetables while avoiding fried foods and refined

carbohydrates ( " junk food " ). Certain food combinations are

emphasized.

 

5. ENERGY MEDICINE: In addition to the above therapies which will

tend to improve circulation, the Radial Appliance is recommended to

further assist in increasing relaxation and nervous system

coordination. Edgar Cayce said that this appliance would be helpful

for anyone having problems with disturbed sleep and fatigue.

 

6. MEDICINE: A ginseng tonic is recommended to improve digestion and

eliminations. Small dosages of beef juice are recommended for

persons who experience significant fatigue and lack of vitality.

 

7. MODERATE EXERCISE: Walking or other moderate exercise is

recommended. Be outdoors in the open as much as possible.

 

8. ATTITUDES AND EMOTIONS: The mental and emotional aspects of

healing are frequently discussed in the Cayce readings.

Particularly, an attitude of desiring and expecting to be healed is

important. A positive mental and emotional attitude and can be

created and maintained by focusing on a high purpose (ideal) for

being healed.

 

*FIBROMYALGIA LINKED TO IBS*

 

The Edgar Cayce readings consistently maintain that problems in the

bowel can produce systemic conditions. A recent medical study echoes

this theme.

 

Researchers at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, Los

Angeles,California may have discovered a simple test that links

fibromyalgia (acondition manifesting as muscle pain) with irritable

bowel syndrome (orIBS, a condition involving abdominal pain,

bloating, and diarrhea).

 

The lactulose breath test (LBT) is used to assess for the presence

of microbes in the bowel in cases of IBS. Some previous studies have

found that nearly one-third of fibromyalgia patients also have IBS.

 

The study, published in the Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases

(April2004), explored the hypothesis that LBT would be abnormal in

both IBS and fibromyalgia patients. The researchers recruited 42

fibromyalgia patients, 111 IBS patients, and 15 healthy control

subjects who were

given the LBT.

 

All the patients with fibromyalgia exhibited abnormal LBT results

compared to 84 percent in the IBS group and 20 percent in the

control group. Furthermore, the amount of hydrogen gas detected in

the LBT correlated with the level of pain in the fibromyalgia

patients.

i would of course add spiritual healing to this regime

phil

 

In , " Mystical "

<mysticalpanthr wrote:

>

> Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

> sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does

anyone

> have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7

365

> days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but

that

> are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative

ways

> to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

> won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I

have

> to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I

have

> - I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am

40

> yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I

have

> to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40

but

> when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

> remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times

where

> he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of

any

> ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help

me (

> What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

> though) Please help me

>

> Mystical Panthr

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Mystical Panthr,

I have fibromyalgia along with other things. I am constantly being told that I

need to walk. I also can not go a block without such intense pain that I cry.

 

I have found that if I walk, in my house, I can sit down when the pain strikes

and after a few minutes, when it subsides, I get up and walk around again...

 

This has been the only way I can do it, but at least I am doing it, if only a

few minutes at a time. Over time I have learned what works and what doesn't...

frustrating... yes, but that's the way it works for me, so I just had to adjust

my attitude and do it the way it works... for me!

 

I wish you well, and if you'd like to post to me off the newsgroup, my e-mail

is: ccheney

 

Candy

Quote:

Never get in a battle of wits without ammunition.

--American Proverb

-

 

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but that

are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative ways

to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I have

to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I have

- I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am 40

yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I have

to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40 but

when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times where

he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of any

ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help me (

What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

though) Please help me

 

Mystical Panthr

 

 

.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

For a nice, quick bio of Iyenger ,see

http://www.denverpost.com/style/ci_3087074

 

 

>No, I do mean Iyengar, I am aware he was trained by Krishnamacharya as a

>young man, left him as his teacher, had essentially no teacher, no

>correspondence with Krishnamacharya in a student sense which goes against

>the teachings of Yoga. He then started teaching what he had learned, was

>being taught as a young man which was Yoga for young, flexible people,

>suitable for him at the time but not as he or anyone ages and grows in

>their practice. Yoga practice is meant to change from body centered to

>breath to mind and then to self. Iyengar never stayed with his teacher

>long enough to learn these things and Krishnamacharya learned how to modify

>for all until he died at 100 in 1989. The only teacher to stay with him is

>his son TKV Desikachar, who I have met several times, in the US and India,

>and have taken several workshops with his son, Kausthub, who I know and

>knows me and is my teacher's teacher. Yes, you are also right about

>Ashtanga, Pattabhi Jois, the founder follows

> the same story line as Iyengar pretty much.

>

> Bevacqui <etain369 wrote:

>

 

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't know if this was meant for me but I have access to people who know him

very closely and what i have written is straight from a true experience of him

and his teaching life. He has taken credit for things not attributable to him,

such as props, which have been used for hundreds if not thousands of years,

which were shown to Krishnamacharya when he lived in a cave with his Guru. I

saw him on Charlie Rose and when he said he wrote a book on Pranayama it was

like he was saying he invented it, seemed a bit arrogant to me, and I had a hard

time understanding anything he said. My teachers speak plainly and practically

and with a great deal of profundity, things I can use which they have as their

dharma, to help others, not themselves. Iyengar spoke around the subject, never

got to it as far as I could discern. He certainly looks the part, though, i

will give him that!

 

I would offer to you to read the Book " Health, Healing and Beyond " a

biography of Krishnamacharya's life or " Yoga of the Yogi " written by his

grandson, Kausthub Desikachar which sheds a great deal of light on the man and

his life, and the legacy he has left behind. Iyengar did himself a great

disservice by leaving such an incredible teacher.

 

Bevacqui <etain369 wrote:

For a nice, quick bio of Iyenger ,see

http://www.denverpost.com/style/ci_3087074

 

>No, I do mean Iyengar, I am aware he was trained by Krishnamacharya as a

>young man, left him as his teacher, had essentially no teacher, no

>correspondence with Krishnamacharya in a student sense which goes against

>the teachings of Yoga. He then started teaching what he had learned, was

>being taught as a young man which was Yoga for young, flexible people,

>suitable for him at the time but not as he or anyone ages and grows in

>their practice. Yoga practice is meant to change from body centered to

>breath to mind and then to self. Iyengar never stayed with his teacher

>long enough to learn these things and Krishnamacharya learned how to modify

>for all until he died at 100 in 1989. The only teacher to stay with him is

>his son TKV Desikachar, who I have met several times, in the US and India,

>and have taken several workshops with his son, Kausthub, who I know and

>knows me and is my teacher's teacher. Yes, you are also right about

>Ashtanga, Pattabhi Jois, the founder follows

> the same story line as Iyengar pretty much.

>

> Bevacqui <etain369 wrote:

>

 

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I know there have been some suggestions on dealing with the fibro, and I

know how difficult this can be. If you've already tried lots of natural

things like internal cleanses, sunshine, digestive enzymes, the water cure,

etc, and they haven't helped, you may be interested in this link. I have

bought some of Sam Biser's material before, but this is unlike anything he's

ever done before. I am so fortunate not to have anything wrong with me or

my family, but I'm thinking of getting this just to see what he says. I do

know some people who have tried everything and nothing has seemed to help,

and this is what his book is all about.

http://www.sambiser.com/course/course.main.html good luck

 

samala

Renee

 

----

 

Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does anyone

have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7 365

days out of the yr.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

 

There is a product that is called Pollen Burst, Neo-Nutrition.

To see the research and health benfits go to: www.burstscience.com

To order wholesale go to http:/www.lifesbetter.myprojoba.net

People that drink Pollen Burst have remarkable benefits from it.

Those whom have Fibromyalgia see amazing results.

, " Renee " <gaiacita

wrote:

>

> I know there have been some suggestions on dealing with the

fibro, and I

> know how difficult this can be. If you've already tried lots of

natural

> things like internal cleanses, sunshine, digestive enzymes, the

water cure,

> etc, and they haven't helped, you may be interested in this link.

I have

> bought some of Sam Biser's material before, but this is unlike

anything he's

> ever done before. I am so fortunate not to have anything wrong

with me or

> my family, but I'm thinking of getting this just to see what he

says. I do

> know some people who have tried everything and nothing has seemed

to help,

> and this is what his book is all about.

> http://www.sambiser.com/course/course.main.html good luck

>

> samala

> Renee

>

> ----

>

> Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

> sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does

anyone

> have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7

365

> days out of the yr.

>

[Guest guest]

If you haven't, already, please visit a naturopath. I work with one

who was schooled by Trinity College, and she is extremely

knowledgeable about this imbalance. The school has their graduates

listed by state on their web site. It's

http://www.trinityschool.org. Good luck, honey. One of my friends

has exactly the same thing you do, but she's not quite ready to go

alternative, yet. It's hard to see somebody you care about go

through something you can't even begin to understand. Bless you and

yours.

 

, " Mystical "

<mysticalpanthr wrote:

>

> Hi there I am Mystical Panthr and I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic

> Fatigue,Insominia, Myofasical Pain Syndrome and Multiple chemical

> sensitivities. All together all at once. Not fun at all. Does

anyone

> have any ideas on things i could do to help my pain I have 24 / 7

365

> days out of the yr. I am on all sorts of medications by a dr but

that

> are all PRN's ( means when needed) I am looking for alternative

ways

> to handle my pain. I hate pills and if I don't have to take them I

> won't. I am very stubborn and wait till the last minute before I

have

> to take them. I need other ways of dealing with this pain that I

have

> - I am also now disabled and cannot work due to the pain and I am

40

> yrs old and have been told by a occupational medical dr. that I

have

> to move around some otherwise i can end up in a wheelchair at 40

but

> when I walk a block I hurt so bad. I am a mom of one teen and

> remarried to a wonderful supportive man - and he has his times

where

> he doesn't know what to say or do. So if anyone has ANY ideas of

any

> ways to help please let me know. I hate dr.s and meds Please help

me (

> What I have is not cureable yet - but they research it everyday

> though) Please help me

>

> Mystical Panthr

>