Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Good afternoon Group! Here's my dilemma...Had a dental appt last month and hygienist said my gums were bleeding more than usual when she poked and prodded measuring the gum pockets. After cleaning around my teeth she scheduled a follow-up appt which was yesterday. Not so good news at follow-up last nite. There was some plaque build-up around some teeth and some bleeding when she prodded. I asked if I should see an MD and she said no, yet I feel that maybe there is also plaque build-up in my arteries. Do you think I'm getting paranoid or should I schedule an appt with an Md or cardiologist? The dentist will be calling me today to dicuss treatment for my gums. Have any of you experienced these type of dental problems? And any suggestions? Thanking you all for listening. Terry in Queens, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Terry, I do not believe that plaque in the mouth is related to plaque in the heart. I may be wrong. I do know that bacteria in the mouth, especially bacteria from an abscessed tooth can either cause or exacerbate heart disease. Plaque on the teeth are the empty shells of bacteria growing there. The bacteria hides right at the gum line and begins to grow, then it gets under the gum where it is safe from being brushed away and grows and makes pockets under the gum. The gum pull away from the bacteria because they have a sharp shell around them and the pockets enlarge, making more safe room for more bacteria to grow.. The placque has to be removed from inside the pockets so the gums will once again lay down on the bacteria free tooth. The procedure to remove these plaques is sometimes called deep cleaning or root planing. When the plaques are removed the gums will again lay down on the teeth and pockets will become smaller. The gums will recede a bit with this treatment. If your dentist wants you to have gum surgery, wait. It is expensive and painful. They cut away the pockets so you usually end up with a lot more of the upper part of your tooth showing than if you are successful with doing a home care plan. Go to a periodontist who is CONSERVATIVE. There is aggressive home care that you can do, coupled with deep cleaning and/or root planing that a periodontist and some dentists can do, over several months that will cause your gums to tighten and the pockets become much smaller. This will remove the places that the bacteria hide and grow. I did this myself years ago and am very happy I did this instead of the gum surgery (mostly because of the pain I saw others have had after the surgery). Beverly Moody In a message dated 11/16/2005 8:41:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, terrym259 writes: Good afternoon Group!Here's my dilemma...Had a dental appt last month and hygienist said mygums were bleeding more than usual when she poked and proddedmeasuring the gum pockets. After cleaning around my teeth shescheduled a follow-up appt which was yesterday. Not so good news atfollow-up last nite. There was some plaque build-up around some teethand some bleeding when she prodded. I asked if I should see an MD andshe said no, yet I feel that maybe there is also plaque build-up in myarteries. Do you think I'm getting paranoid or should I schedule anappt with an Md or cardiologist? The dentist will be calling me todayto dicuss treatment for my gums. Have any of you experienced thesetype of dental problems? And any suggestions? Thanking you all forlistening. Terry in Queens, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Something tells me that plaque on the gums is different from plaque in the veins/arteries. Namaste, LynetteTerralyn - Bath, Body, SpiritReading Terminal MarketPhiladelphia, PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Terry, If it will make you feel better/less worried, certainly go ahead and see a doctor. Heart disease does go along with gum disease, but a problem with one doesn't mean you DO have the other. This said, I have NOT been for a physical but do have the periodontal problem and have been seeing a gum specialist for a while now. Though I went years without seeing a dentist. Also your menstrual cycle and other things (stress even) can affect the amount of bleeding, etc. Just from what I've read but I doubt all professionals agree with that! Chris in NC , " Theresa Graham " <terrym259> wrote: > > > Good afternoon Group! > Here's my dilemma...Had a dental appt last month and hygienist said my > gums were bleeding more than usual when she poked and prodded > measuring the gum pockets. After cleaning around my teeth she > scheduled a follow-up appt which was yesterday. Not so good news at > follow-up last nite. There was some plaque build-up around some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Verify treatment and cost issues with another dentist. --- Theresa Graham <terrym259 wrote: > > Good afternoon Group! > Here's my dilemma...Had a dental appt last month and > hygienist said my > gums were bleeding more than usual when she poked > and prodded > measuring the gum pockets. After cleaning around my > teeth she > scheduled a follow-up appt which was yesterday. Not > so good news at > follow-up last nite. There was some plaque build-up > around some teeth > and some bleeding when she prodded. I asked if I > should see an MD and > she said no, yet I feel that maybe there is also > plaque build-up in my > arteries. Do you think I'm getting paranoid or > should I schedule an > appt with an Md or cardiologist? The dentist will be > calling me today > to dicuss treatment for my gums. Have any of you > experienced these > type of dental problems? And any suggestions? > Thanking you all for > listening. Terry in Queens, NY > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Dear Terry, sometimes when I floss (and I love, too, for some reason) I have a little bleeding. Don't be afraid to see that. To make your flossing more productive, try flossing with one strand...then see the difference when you use 2 strands of floss!!! (You can also buy super fat floss, called Dental Tape) You will remove matter that you never knew you had. I believe that mild salt rinses will toughen the gums... If you gargle with peroxide and water, it will whiten your teeth and the foam will show you where the infection was.... Don't swallow any peroxide but rinse really well Take care, Athena Keep your floss near your toothbrush and do it every single night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Terry, Brushing teeth with a few drops of a thick red tree sap may sound like a crazy idea, but it works great to restore gums, and is incidentally good for your heart as well. You may have heard of the super-antioxidants called pycnogenols? Sangre de Drago is the richest known source of them, higher even than the famous French Maritime Pine bark. Sangre de Drago is the sap of a tree growing in the Amazon Rainforest. It has a long history of traditional use for wound healing, and internally as treatment for all matters gastro-intestinal. This is my business, but I simply don't know anything better. The following stories came from a conference call that was mainly devoted to animal health. Sangre de Drago saves teeth! An ancient German Shepherd with terrible gum disease had teeth that were loose and black with tartar. He had already lost a tooth when he tried to eat some real food instead of just gulping soft mush. Thanks to Sangre de Drago he was crunching chicken necks again in a few weeks. His owner had put some drops of Sangre de Drago on her finger and massaged his gums. The next morning his gums were pink. They had been white and gummy from lack of circulation. In 4 days the black tartar was falling off his teeth. Other dog owners reported the same results: When Sangre de Drago was applied twice-daily tartar started falling off the teeth in 4-7 days. We now have humans brushing their teeth with a few drops of Sangre de Drago. Squirt into your lower lip, and spread out with brush. It foams up and doesn’t taste bad at all. Gums tighten and teeth whiten! The only side effect is a brown toothbrush. Bonnie Butwin was told she would need gum surgery. She started brushing with a combination of Sumacazon powder and Sangre de Drago. After six months her gums were healed and she no longer needed the surgery. This product is becoming more available, but many products on the market are a watered down travesty. The Sangre de Drago produced by Amazon Herb Company is in a class by itself. Pure undiluted sap was mixed with 20 % spagyrically extracted inner bark. Sangre de Drago is available in a handy 2 oz squeeze bottle for $21. I do not recommend the large economy size (8 oz for $89) unless you are taking large amnounts internally. A few drops go a long way. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns:ienvan, or toll free 866-477-0111 Or, just get some here: http://wildhealing.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 Hi Terry, I read your note to the group Alternative Answers. I am a dentist for 27 years now. I really, really stress to brush and floss before going to bed nightly. That will prevent so many things, especially gum disease. Brushing for 2 minutes 2-3 times per day is a good amount of time. Most people tell me that they brush but they usually are brushing for 20 seconds only. That won't get it. And I did time myself in flossing and it took me about a minute to floss. And flossing can be done once per day and that should be at night. That way, the bacteria won't be on the gums all night doing their damage. Plaque on the teeth is made up of bacteria and is different from heart plaque. Do you have bleeding gums while brushing or flossing? That is a sign of gum (periodontal) disease. If so, then just improve the frequency of brushing and brush and floss nightly. It should get better. If the periodontal disease has already gone beyond a certain point, then you may need to have gum surgery. Your dentist can be the judge of that. If you really, really don't want gum surgery, then you might consider asking your dentist if he/she would give you 6 more months to really, really improve your care of your teeth at home and see if you can avoid it. Again, that will depend on the probing readings your hygienist did for you. I hope this helps you a little more. Hugs, Kathryn in Michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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