Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I have bi-polar disorder and i have been on lithium, depakote and right now im on topamax but i go in for a galucoma test in about an hour because we think the topamax has caused it. a side effect of it. so if it has i will have to come off of it i have one source of infomation for treatint bi-polar without drugs that is Empowerplus or truehope.com, but im not sure of the cost and i got a feeling that since it is a co that makes and sells the vit, and min, it will be high and i cant afford it. is there any other herbs that have worked for anyone that can work for treating bi- polar. my diet can improve somewhat. i will do anything. there are no more mood stablizers to go on and im not going back on depakote. i know st. johns wort is good for depression but how much and all. i dont know of any good health pratcticners here. but i guess i better start looking. please post a list of herbs that are good for treating bi-polar and how much to take. thanks greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Gregory: Go to www.nordicnaturals.com. They have a very pure DHA and EPA quality Omega-3 product. My experience with cust. svc. there is very good. My whole family takes these. Good luck on your journey and may G-d bless you. Nevada , " Gregory D. Watts " <poneyboy@t...> wrote: > I have bi-polar disorder and i have been on lithium, depakote and > right now im on topamax but i go in for a galucoma test in about an > hour because we think the topamax has caused it. a side effect of > it. so if it has i will have to come off of it > i have one source of infomation for treatint bi-polar without drugs > that is Empowerplus or truehope.com, but im not sure of the cost and > i got a feeling that since it is a co that makes and sells the vit, > and min, it will be high and i cant afford it. is there any other > herbs that have worked for anyone that can work for treating bi- > polar. my diet can improve somewhat. i will do anything. there are > no more mood stablizers to go on and im not going back on depakote. > i know st. johns wort is good for depression but how much and all. i > dont know of any good health pratcticners here. but i guess i better > start looking. please post a list of herbs that are good for > treating bi-polar and how much to take. thanks greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 , foxhillers@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/31/03 2:47:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > nevada753@s... writes: > > Gregory Go to www.nordicnaturals.com. They have a very pure DHA and EPA quality Omega-3 product. My experience with cust. svc. there is very good. My whole family takes these. Good luck on your journey and may G-d bless you. Nevada > Gregory, Nevada and all > Our family physician put us on fish oil several months ago.... and gave us an article from Consumer Reports..... > We get ours at Sam's Club or Costco for $7.00 for 300-1g caps. Works for us on tight budgets! > mjh Do tell... what does Consumer Reports know about vitamins? If you purchase your vitamins at Sam's or Costco's you may as well throw your money in the trash! If you want a good supplement, visit your local health food stores or obtain from some reliable internet source! Sam's Costco's and Sundown are formulated by the pharmas (Rexall, which is now affiliated with GNC) and literally worthless! Regards, Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Charles, I am not really singleing you out even though it may appear so, but your post is an example that I would like to use although there. Please don't get your feelings hurt as there have been many many others. Whether I agree with you or not is not an issue to my point here either. Don't you think it would have been better for the group if you would have told us why you consider the vitamins worthless and maybe given us some documatation if at all possible. The same for why Cosumer Reports are no good etc. Also it may have been more effective if you showed (to make your point) why the vitamins are better at the health food store etc. Opinions are OK on this board if thta is what is stated by the author and why and then explaun how or what caused them to come to that conclusion etc. The readers can then evaluate the opinion based on their own critria and their opinion of the poster's track record, knowledge level, reliability, etc. Although your post didn't have any of these following things, let me cover some other things thta could cause a post NOT to make it to the board. We don't promote allopathic treatments here either and rarely do we post research only from allopathic sites as they ar usually (in my opinion unadulterated BS, designed more to have a marketable product than to be a beneficial treatment to the user/consumer and usually based on junk or adulterated science) So everyone, post from allopathic references only if you think it will fly here. Be carefull of some websites that skew the information to sell you something. This varies from site to site. The information migh be somewhat true but they may leave out competing nutrients info or something about their own that you need to know to evaluate it properly. A good way to use when composing your messages is. Pretend that you are writing for a small town newspaper of 1000 circulation, and some of them may not know much about the subject. So how do you tell them in a way that tells the whole story. Even if it is short. Like a few setences. Only 1000 in your town newspaper, so folksy is OK, but informative is necessary. Because that is basically what we have here. Smaller groups can get away with a chat room style where everyone posts a stream of conscious style posting. Don't get me wrong, I love that, just not when we have a 1000 members in the chat room. As to the point that there is too much information given here. That usually refers to the posts that the person is not interested in. It is OK to be a long post if the message is dealing with that person's serious health condition. Funny how it works out like that huh? Anyway, use your delete button on the ones that don't interest you and go back and search the archives for them when or if you have a health condition change and they become " interesting " to you. Anyway, to all post but don't get your feelings hurt if it doesn't show up. Instaed of demanding why your post didn't make it, spend some time rereading your post so you can figure out what is wrong. If you need information, I suggest that you first search our resources and the webs resources and learn as much as you can. Post that and share it with us, and then ask other to help you find further relevent info. Then share that also. If you are at a loss or it is a serious emergency please post immediately. I would like to see hundreds of people posting here. I just don't want to see this board to degenerate into a crowd of people all giving everyone else advice based on little else than the million reasons that people something. To the readers, not everything on this board is accurate or even true. It is up to each of us to educate ourselves to be able to seperate what is and what isn't the best advice or information. There are some valid differences of opinion and some times the poster might be talking out of his butt. You have to be the judge for your own solutions etc. with the same responsiblity. Anyway we try and keep a loose balance between differeing opinions and accuracy. Which isn't easy. Or what is a proper ost and what is not etc. The moderators here do a terrific job. They are probably the most dedicated, knowledgeable that I have seen on the net anywhere. I think that we are very lucky to have them. I sure know that this group is one of the best on the web and they are the ones to thank for that. Frank > Do tell... what does Consumer Reports know about vitamins? If you > purchase your vitamins at Sam's or Costco's you may as well throw > your money in the trash! If you want a good supplement, visit your > local health food stores or obtain from some reliable internet > source! > Sam's Costco's and Sundown are formulated by the pharmas > (Rexall, which is now affiliated with GNC) > and literally worthless! > > Regards, > Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 , Kathy Dery <gfx@p...> wrote: > What is a reliable internet source? > K > > Do tell... what does Consumer Reports know about vitamins? If you > > purchase your vitamins at Sam's or Costco's you may as well throw > > your money in the trash! If you want a good supplement, visit your local health food stores or obtain from some reliable internet > > source! These sites offer high quality Norwegian fish oil with tocotrienols. www.enzy.com www.spectrumnaturals.com www.nordicnaturals.com. Charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Go to http://www.mercola.com - type in bipolar and read the reality - the research has been done many times over. Same conclusion = OMEGA 3 is short in people with bipolar and they DO NOT get out in the SUN. All the 'over priced' supplements will only give relief for a period of time because they are NOT dealing with the cause. Replace omega 3 in the body - get a sun tan - and exercise that is dealing with the cause and its a whole lot cheaper and completely NATURAL. THE HUMAN BODY CAN ONLY HEAL WITH NATURAL THINGS. DIET - EXERCISE - SUNLIGHT. True medicine = Let thy Food be thy medicine Alternative medicine = Slash, Burn, Radiate or Poison. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Hi Alcobar Yes we NEED BOTH. Omega 3's carry some of the value of sunlight including the critical photons which becomes BIOPHOTONS. Omega 3 also protects cells by regulating almost ALL METABOLIC functions both cells and total body. One of the Best web pages I have found to date: http://alkalizeforhealth.net/sunlight.htm Biophotons = explained from: http://www.mercola.com/2002/aug/21/biophoton.htm " What Are Biophotons? Biophotons are characterized by an extremely high degree of order and can be described as a type of biological laser light which is capable of interference and appears to be responsible for many effects which ordinary incoherent light could not achieve. Its high coherency lends the biophoton wave the capability of creating order and transmitting information while chaotic, incoherent light simply transmits energy. " This is how our bodys are run - almost could be described as " life force " . Essential Fatty Acids - How they control our Metabolism : http://www.gsdl.com/assessments/fattyacids/appguide/ , " Alobar " <alobar@b...> wrote: > Rick, > It is unclear from your post -- are you saying that omega 3 > oils are produced in the human body by getting enough sunlight? Or > are you saying that people need both an increase in omega 3 from > their diet *and* they also need sunlight? > > Alobar > > > - > " rickmuenzer " <r.muenzer@v...> > > Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM > Re: *URGENT* need reply > bi-polar > > > > Go to http://www.mercola.com - type in bipolar and read the > > reality - the research has been done many times over. > > Same conclusion = OMEGA 3 is short in people with bipolar > > and they DO NOT get out in the SUN. > > All the 'over priced' supplements will only give relief for a > > period of time because they are NOT dealing with the cause. > > Replace omega 3 in the body - get a sun tan - and exercise > > that is dealing with the cause and its a whole lot cheaper > > and completely NATURAL. THE HUMAN BODY CAN ONLY HEAL WITH > > NATURAL THINGS. DIET - EXERCISE - SUNLIGHT. > > True medicine = Let thy Food be thy medicine > > Alternative medicine = Slash, Burn, Radiate or Poison. > > > > Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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