Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 I am reading Juice Fasting and Detoxification by Steve Meyerowitz, 1996. In it he says that the Clorox bath is controversial but very effective and well supported. " Clorox is purported to operate on an electro-magnetic level as well. Whatever it is, it actually increases the color and flavor, returns freshness to produce and destroys parasites and their eggs. Clorox works as a chelating agent extracting pesticides and pollutants from the produce it contacts...if you were to drink Clorox it would be considered a poison itself, but Clorox is a volatile liquid and turns quickly to a gaseous state upon contact with air. If Clorox is there, you will smell it. If not it has turned in to a gas and escaped leaving you with pure food " pg.49-50 I have to say given the choice-I'd opt for the Clorox bath. One half teaspoon per gallon of water soak produce for 5-10 minutes, drain, soak again in fresh water for 5-10 minutes. If you can still smell Clorox, rinse again and let air dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Group, I do not know much about detoxifying vegetables, but on the surface and without any real good hard data to back it up, I would never consider using bleach on my food to try and detoxify it. Chlorine is definately a toxin. It could be used as a disinfectant, but it doesn't make sense as a nuetralizing or as a detoxifying agent. With this kind of thinking, to detoxify or clean up our rivers and lakes from chemicals all we need to do it dump them full of chlorine. Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Chlorine has been shown to be carcinogenic and suspect in a myriad of conditions of disease. Why would I want to put it on anything that goes into my body? That is what part of this list is about, getting people to stop putting poisons in there bodies. I have read accounts where some people wont even use it in there households for cleansing and disenfecting. I would think that vinegar would be good for disenfecting and safe. Most studies that I have read by people who I respect are very unhappy that it is the primary way to disinfect water in the USA. They cite other ways to do it much safer and less harmful to the health of the people who drink it. If anyone thinks that chlorine can be used to detoxify food, I would be very interested to take a look at the scientific studies and then I would still be very suspect about them unless, I knew who did them and why, and could collaborate them with others. As for me this, I categorize this in the very bad information file until, I am presented with a lot more evidence to show otherwise. Frank , susbarb1@a... wrote: > I am reading Juice Fasting and Detoxification by Steve Meyerowitz, 1996. In > it he says that the Clorox bath is controversial but very effective and well > supported. " Clorox is purported to operate on an electro-magnetic level as > well. Whatever it is, it actually increases the color and flavor, returns > freshness to produce and destroys parasites and their eggs. Clorox works as a > chelating agent extracting pesticides and pollutants from the produce it > contacts...if you were to drink Clorox it would be considered a poison itself, but Clorox > is a volatile liquid and turns quickly to a gaseous state upon contact with > air. If Clorox is there, you will smell it. If not it has turned in to a gas > and escaped leaving you with pure food " pg.49-50 > > I have to say given the choice-I'd opt for the Clorox bath. One half teaspoon > per gallon of water soak produce for 5-10 minutes, drain, soak again in > fresh water for 5-10 minutes. If you can still smell Clorox, rinse again and let > air dry. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2003 Report Share Posted July 12, 2003 Frank, You are right, I know that vinegar would be good for disenfecting and safe. I have heard white is just as effective as the apple cider vinegar. I use apple cider vinegar literally for everything. But lets not get crazy here. When rinsing your fruits and veggies are you using the best water possible or are you rinsing from tap water? I cannot afford to be that compulsive. I rinse in tap water but drink distilled and eat only organic when possible. I think that is compulsive enough. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2003 Report Share Posted July 12, 2003 Do you have anything of to show me the chemistry involved? I only read of your opinion or this author. On the face of these posts they appear to me to be misinformation. It just doesn't make much sense to me although I am no expert on clorine, but everything that I have read in the past certainly points to an opposite conclusion. Pestacides are toxic sunstances. I would assume and hope that the bulk of the pesticide would be on the outside of the vegetable or fruit, although I would also expect that some are taken up or absorbed somehow, and are also inside of the food, but hopefully in smaller quantities. I would assume the best way to get the pesticides off would be to break the chemical bonds that hold it together and make it adhere to the food. I am sure that there are a lot of other less toxic substances that could do that. Probably most vegetable washes with some kind on mild soap or detergent could do it. If you have anything that shows that the chemistry involved that chlorine will neutralize all of these different pestacides please post that. Even if it did, you still have the issue of the toxicity of the chlorine and the unhealthy destruction of food and enzymes caused by the chlorine. Chlorine is a toxic substance. It can be absorbed into food. It will destroy any enzymes and probably most vitamins present in the food. I do not see how putting one toxic substance over another could be beneficial. Just on the surface, to me this adds another layer of poison to the pesticide already present. You also wrote: ( " Whatever it is, it actually increases the color and flavor, returns > freshness to produce " ) This also on the surface sounds so ridiculous as to almost be laughable. I cannot imagine bleach as a flavor enhancer. Returns freshness? In what way and how? I don't think so. You make it sound as if we could take old food and revitalize it. Chlorine is a strong toxin. I do not believe it can be used in any way similar to what you state. I just hope there are not any people in the group who would take this type of advice to heart without a lot more evidence to back it up. Frank , susbarb1@a... wrote: > I am not talking about disinfecting produce. I understand that there are many > great natural products that can do this. I am talking about dystroying > pesticides in produce. > It seems that bleach does this, and is not residual , susbarb1@a... wrote: > I am reading Juice Fasting and Detoxification by Steve Meyerowitz, 1996. In > it he says that the Clorox bath is controversial but very effective and well > supported. " Clorox is purported to operate on an electro-magnetic level as > well. Whatever it is, it actually increases the color and flavor, returns > freshness to produce and destroys parasites and their eggs. Clorox works as a > chelating agent extracting pesticides and pollutants from the produce it > contacts...if you were to drink Clorox it would be considered a poison itself, but Clorox > is a volatile liquid and turns quickly to a gaseous state upon contact with > air. If Clorox is there, you will smell it. If not it has turned in to a gas > and escaped leaving you with pure food " pg.49-50 > > I have to say given the choice-I'd opt for the Clorox bath. One half teaspoon > per gallon of water soak produce for 5-10 minutes, drain, soak again in > fresh water for 5-10 minutes. If you can still smell Clorox, rinse again and let > air dry. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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