Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 http://www.goingplatinum.com/channels/health_mind_story.asp?story_id=38568194, How too many vitamins can damage Source: Daily Mail; London (UK) 2003-05-05 A HEALTH warning is to be issued over popular vitamins and mineral pills, threatening to devastate the pounds 175million a year industry. The Food Standards Agency will this week issue an alert on the dangers of overdosing on Vitamin C and other supplements. The Government watchdog will announce that a wide range of vitamin and mineral pills offer no real benefits and may be harmful in large quantities. It will argue that, for the general population, taking pills is no substitute for a healthy diet. The report from the FSA, to be published on Thursday, suggests that the estimated ten million people who spend huge sums on the supplements are effectively wasting their money. It will set the first recommended maximum dose levels for Vitamin C and more than 20 other substances, including iron, calcium, folic acid and the vitamins B6, B12, A and D. Warnings surrounding Vitamin C, the biggest selling supplement, will be particularly controversial. The FSA will advise that consumption of more than 1,000 milligrammes a day could create stomach problems such as wind and diarrhoea, or worsen gastric problems. Those vulnerable to kidney stones and other complications of high uric acid levels in the blood will be warned to take no more than 500mg a day. Vitamin B6 is said to help stress and cleanse the body of destructive free radical chemicals associated with drinking and smoking. But there is research that high doses have been linked to nerve damage, memory loss and loss of balance. As a result, the FSA is expected to recommend an intake of no more than 10mg per day. Smokers who take high levels of beta- carotene supplement can actually increase the risk of lung cancer. The FSA argues for a safe upper limit for the rest of the population of 7mg per day. The FSA view is that a small proportion of the population, such as pregnant women, the elderly and young children, might receive some benefit from vitamin and mineral pills. But its general line is: 'A healthy balanced diet, which includes plenty of fruit, vegetables, and starchy foods, and moderate amounts of dairy products, meat, fish, and other protein will provide all the nutrients that most people need without supplements.' Last year, a study from experts at Oxford University found three of the most popular supplements - beta- carotene, Vitamin C and Vitamin E - offered no protection against diseases such as cancer. The FSA advice to consumers is based on a wide-ranging investigation by its Expert Group on Vitamins and Minerals, chaired by Professor Michael Langman. The safe dose levels recommended by the FSA are generally substantially below the amounts which are currently used by manufacturers and retailers under a voluntary system. A lobby campaign opposing the FSA dose levels and advice has been co-ordinated by the Health Supplements Information Service. The organisation insisted there are numerous studies showing the benefits of mineral and vitamin pills. A spokesman said: 'There are many groups in affluent societies, including our own, who eat a poorly balanced diet despite the huge choice open to them. 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements than men.' s.poulter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release 4/24/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 The post below is utter trash. Such misinformation does not belong on this list. It is propaganda written to scare people away from the vitamins which can save lives and improve quality of life. I do not have the time to tear it apart line by line right now because I am very busy these days -- as can be deduced by my getting to read this post nearly a month after it was put on the list. Alobar - " TJ Northern " <tawnyj5 Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:05 PM How too many vitamins can damage > > http://www.goingplatinum.com/channels/health_mind_story.asp?story_id=38568194, > > How too many vitamins can damage > Source: Daily Mail; London (UK) > 2003-05-05 > > > A HEALTH warning is to be issued over popular vitamins and mineral pills, threatening to devastate the pounds 175million a year industry. > > > The Food Standards Agency will this week issue an alert on the dangers of overdosing on Vitamin C and other supplements. > > > The Government watchdog will announce that a wide range of vitamin and mineral pills offer no real benefits and may be harmful in large quantities. > > It will argue that, for the general population, taking pills is no substitute for a healthy diet. > > The report from the FSA, to be published on Thursday, suggests that the estimated ten million people who spend huge sums on the supplements are effectively wasting their money. > > It will set the first recommended maximum dose levels for Vitamin C and more than 20 other substances, including iron, calcium, folic acid and the vitamins B6, B12, A and D. > > Warnings surrounding Vitamin C, the biggest selling supplement, will be particularly controversial. > > The FSA will advise that consumption of more than 1,000 milligrammes a day could create stomach problems such as wind and diarrhoea, or worsen gastric problems. Those vulnerable to kidney stones and other complications of high uric acid levels in the blood will be warned to take no more than 500mg a day. > > Vitamin B6 is said to help stress and cleanse the body of destructive free radical chemicals associated with drinking and smoking. > > But there is research that high doses have been linked to nerve damage, memory loss and loss of balance. As a result, the FSA is expected to recommend an intake of no more than 10mg per day. > > Smokers who take high levels of beta- carotene supplement can actually increase the risk of lung cancer. The FSA argues for a safe upper limit for the rest of the population of 7mg per day. > > The FSA view is that a small proportion of the population, such as pregnant women, the elderly and young children, might receive some benefit from vitamin and mineral pills. > > But its general line is: 'A healthy balanced diet, which includes plenty of fruit, vegetables, and starchy foods, and moderate amounts of dairy products, meat, fish, and other protein will provide all the nutrients that most people need without supplements.' Last year, a study from experts at Oxford University found three of the most popular supplements - beta- carotene, Vitamin C and Vitamin E - offered no protection against diseases such as cancer. > > The FSA advice to consumers is based on a wide-ranging investigation by its Expert Group on Vitamins and Minerals, chaired by Professor Michael Langman. > > The safe dose levels recommended by the FSA are generally substantially below the amounts which are currently used by manufacturers and retailers under a voluntary system. > > A lobby campaign opposing the FSA dose levels and advice has been co-ordinated by the Health Supplements Information Service. > > The organisation insisted there are numerous studies showing the benefits of mineral and vitamin pills. > > A spokesman said: 'There are many groups in affluent societies, including our own, who eat a poorly balanced diet despite the huge choice open to them. > > 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements than men.' > > s.poulter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Okay, Alobar, Thanks for the verbal beating. I may not post again here. What I meant to be seen was the last paragraph anyway. Have a great day! Tawny PS. I should have just copied this part. > 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements than men.' > - Alobar Gettingwell Saturday, May 31, 2003 3:40 AM Re: How too many vitamins can damage The post below is utter trash. Such misinformation does not belong on this list. It is propaganda written to scare people away from the vitamins which can save lives and improve quality of life. I do not have the time to tear it apart line by line right now because I am very busy these days -- as can be deduced by my getting to read this post nearly a month after it was put on the list. Alobar - " TJ Northern " <tawnyj5 Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:05 PM How too many vitamins can damage > > http://www.goingplatinum.com/channels/health_mind_story.asp?story_id=38568194, > > How too many vitamins can damage > Source: Daily Mail; London (UK) > 2003-05-05 > > 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements than men.' > > s.poulter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 Evening Tawny, Don't let anyones comments on your post keep you from posting. At 10:22 AM 5/31/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Okay, Alobar, Thanks for the verbal beating. I may not post again here. >What I meant to be seen was the last paragraph anyway. >Have a great day! >Tawny >PS. I should have just copied this part. We all need to see misinformation from time to time, least we forget about it. Most of the post sounds like our FDA, USDA, and other worthless government agencies. Plus, many people have not learned about the misinformation machine, yet and do not understand the purpose. Actually, I like for people to disagree with me. This is the way we get different ideas and gain information. We all are likely wrong about something. I agree with Alobar to some degree, but still, on my lists, I often post articles that I know are wrong and false, and are exactly opposite to my belief's. Just don't take it personal when we disagree with your posts or ideas. Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 I did not intend to shoot down the messenger, Tawny, just the message. I am very much over-worked & over-stressed these days. I just get so mad when the docs told me I complained too much over the pharm drug side effects of the glybburide I was on (stabbing pains every time I swallowed a bite of food or a gulp of water, stabbing pains along shin bones when trying to get to sleep, etc) and other so-called experts say there are serious side effects & dangers from vitamins. If those folks used the same criteria for judging the dangers of pharm drugs, they would be warning people away from every one of them. But they do not. They say supplements are dangerous, but the pharm drugs are not -- which is just a damn lie. And that pisses me off. Alobar - " TJ Northern " <tawnyj5 Saturday, May 31, 2003 10:22 AM Re: How too many vitamins can damage > Okay, Alobar, Thanks for the verbal beating. I may not post again here. > What I meant to be seen was the last paragraph anyway. > Have a great day! > Tawny > PS. I should have just copied this part. > > > 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern > diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, > magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups > in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements > than men.' > > > > - > Alobar > Gettingwell > Saturday, May 31, 2003 3:40 AM > Re: How too many vitamins can damage > > > The post below is utter trash. Such misinformation does not > belong on this list. It is propaganda written to scare people away > from the vitamins which can save lives and improve quality of life. > I do not have the time to tear it apart line by line right now > because I am very busy these days -- as can be deduced by my getting > to read this post nearly a month after it was put on the list. > > Alobar > > > - > " TJ Northern " <tawnyj5 > > Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:05 PM > How too many vitamins can damage > > > > > > > http://www.goingplatinum.com/channels/health_mind_story.asp?story_id=38568194, > > > > How too many vitamins can damage > > Source: Daily Mail; London (UK) > > 2003-05-05 > > > > 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern > diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, > magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups > in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements > than men.' > > > > s.poulter > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 Speaking of vitamins, I am looking to resolve my conflict on the best means to metabolize Vitamin C. I have used regular generic Vit. C tablets, Ester C, and a powdered Ascorbic Acid that makes a pleasant drink. I have heard that buffered C is the best source that others do not absorb well are do not break down to an efficient form> Can anyone give ?me some information this? Barbara Alobar <alobar wrote: The post below is utter trash. Such misinformation does not belong on this list. It is propaganda written to scare people away from the vitamins which can save lives and improve quality of life. I do not have the time to tear it apart line by line right now because I am very busy these days -- as can be deduced by my getting to read this post nearly a month after it was put on the list. Alobar - " TJ Northern " <tawnyj5 Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:05 PM How too many vitamins can damage > > http://www.goingplatinum.com/channels/health_mind_story.asp?story_id=38568194, > > How too many vitamins can damage > Source: Daily Mail; London (UK) > 2003-05-05 > > > A HEALTH warning is to be issued over popular vitamins and mineral pills, threatening to devastate the pounds 175million a year industry. > > > The Food Standards Agency will this week issue an alert on the dangers of overdosing on Vitamin C and other supplements. > > > The Government watchdog will announce that a wide range of vitamin and mineral pills offer no real benefits and may be harmful in large quantities. > > It will argue that, for the general population, taking pills is no substitute for a healthy diet. > > The report from the FSA, to be published on Thursday, suggests that the estimated ten million people who spend huge sums on the supplements are effectively wasting their money. > > It will set the first recommended maximum dose levels for Vitamin C and more than 20 other substances, including iron, calcium, folic acid and the vitamins B6, B12, A and D. > > Warnings surrounding Vitamin C, the biggest selling supplement, will be particularly controversial. > > The FSA will advise that consumption of more than 1,000 milligrammes a day could create stomach problems such as wind and diarrhoea, or worsen gastric problems. Those vulnerable to kidney stones and other complications of high uric acid levels in the blood will be warned to take no more than 500mg a day. > > Vitamin B6 is said to help stress and cleanse the body of destructive free radical chemicals associated with drinking and smoking. > > But there is research that high doses have been linked to nerve damage, memory loss and loss of balance. As a result, the FSA is expected to recommend an intake of no more than 10mg per day. > > Smokers who take high levels of beta- carotene supplement can actually increase the risk of lung cancer. The FSA argues for a safe upper limit for the rest of the population of 7mg per day. > > The FSA view is that a small proportion of the population, such as pregnant women, the elderly and young children, might receive some benefit from vitamin and mineral pills. > > But its general line is: 'A healthy balanced diet, which includes plenty of fruit, vegetables, and starchy foods, and moderate amounts of dairy products, meat, fish, and other protein will provide all the nutrients that most people need without supplements.' Last year, a study from experts at Oxford University found three of the most popular supplements - beta- carotene, Vitamin C and Vitamin E - offered no protection against diseases such as cancer. > > The FSA advice to consumers is based on a wide-ranging investigation by its Expert Group on Vitamins and Minerals, chaired by Professor Michael Langman. > > The safe dose levels recommended by the FSA are generally substantially below the amounts which are currently used by manufacturers and retailers under a voluntary system. > > A lobby campaign opposing the FSA dose levels and advice has been co-ordinated by the Health Supplements Information Service. > > The organisation insisted there are numerous studies showing the benefits of mineral and vitamin pills. > > A spokesman said: 'There are many groups in affluent societies, including our own, who eat a poorly balanced diet despite the huge choice open to them. > > 'The Government's own survey figures consistently show that modern diet provides less than target levels of folic acid, iron, calcium, magnesium, zinc, selenium, and B vitamins for many vulnerable groups in society, particularly women who have lower energy requirements than men.' > > s.poulter > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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