Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Esterified-C JoAnn Guest Feb 14, 2003 11:11 PST James Balch has some good information regarding Ester-C in his book " Prescription for Nutritional Healing. " This is a great reference for both vitamins and herbs. He says and I quote: " Esterified vitamin C is a remarkably effective form of vitamin C, especially for those whoe are suffering from chronic disease such as cancer and AIDS. It is created by having the vitamin C react with a necessary mineral, such as calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, or zinc. " " This results in a form of the vitamin that is nonacidic and that contains vitamin C metabolites identical to those produced by the body. Esterified vitamin C enters the bloodstream and tissues four times faster than standard vitamin C, moves into the blood cells more efficiently, and also stays in the body tissue longer. " " he levels of vitamin C in white blood cells achieved by taking esterified vitamin C are four times higher than those achieved with standard vitamin C. Further, only one-third as much is lost through excretion in the urine. Natrol produces supplements of Ester-C in combination with other valuable nutrients; one with the antioxidants Pycnogenol and proanthocyanidins, another with the herb echinacea, and still another with garlic. " Vitamin C increases the absorption of iron. New evidence indicates that vitamin C works synergistically with vitamin E --that is when these vitamins work together, they have a greater effect than when they work separately. Vitamin E scavenges for dangerous free radicals in cell membranes, while vitamin C attacks free radicals in biologic fluids. These vitamins reinforce and extend each other's antioxidant activity. " If aspirin and standard vitamin C are taken together in large doses, stomach irritation can occur, possibly leading to ulcers. " JoAnn Guest jgu- Friendsforhea- DietaryTi- http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Botanicals.html http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html *theaimcompanies* -Wisdom of the past,Food of the future- " Health is not a Medical Issue " The complete " Whole Body " Health line consists of the " AIM GARDEN TRIO " Ask About Health Professional Support Series: AIM Barleygreen " Wisdom of the Past, Food of the Future " http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 JoAnn Have you read the book? Does he give the studies to corroborated his statements? The acidity of vitamin C should not have as " acidific " effect on the stomach as the stomach is much more acidic than is vitamin C. It has already been established that aspirin alone, even in small quantities, can cause bleeding in the stomach; this is why there are coated aspirin tablets. Will vitamin C taken alone cause stomach bleeding/ulceration? Not very likely. Morton JoAnn Guest wrote: >Esterified-C JoAnn Guest Feb 14, 2003 11:11 PST James Balch has some good information >regarding Ester-C in his book > " Prescription for Nutritional Healing. " > >This is a great reference for both vitamins and herbs. >He says and I quote: > > " Esterified vitamin C is a remarkably effective form of vitamin C, >especially for those whoe are suffering from chronic disease such as >cancer and AIDS. It is created by having the vitamin C react with a >necessary mineral, such as calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, or >zinc. " > > " This results in a form of the vitamin that is nonacidic and that >contains vitamin C metabolites identical to those produced by the >body. > >Esterified vitamin C enters the bloodstream and tissues four times >faster than standard vitamin C, moves into the blood cells more >efficiently, and also stays in the body tissue longer. " > > " he levels of vitamin C in white blood cells achieved by taking >esterified vitamin C are four times higher than those achieved with >standard vitamin C. Further, only one-third as much is lost through >excretion in the urine. >Natrol produces supplements of Ester-C in combination with other >valuable nutrients; one with the antioxidants Pycnogenol and >proanthocyanidins, another with the herb echinacea, and still another >with garlic. " > >Vitamin C increases the absorption of iron. New evidence indicates >that vitamin C works synergistically with vitamin E --that is when >these vitamins work together, they have a greater effect than when >they work separately. Vitamin E scavenges for dangerous free radicals >in cell membranes, while vitamin C attacks free radicals in biologic >fluids. These vitamins reinforce and extend each other's antioxidant >activity. " > >If aspirin and standard vitamin C are taken together in large doses, >stomach irritation can occur, possibly leading to ulcers. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 I almost never use aspirin, but I do use large amounts of vitamin C. For the past 6-8 months, I have been taking about a kilogram of ascorbic acid per month (30-40 grams a day) dissolved in water (~8 grams of ascorbic acid per pint of water). For the decade or so prior to that, I was taking ascorbic acid tablets at the rate of about 16 grams a day in two 8 gram doses. The tablets sometimes caused a bit of stomach irritation unless I took the 8 1-gram tablets along with a full meal, but I never have any stomach upset when drinking ascorbic acid solution in small sips throughout the day -- even though I am now taking about twice as much C as I was taking when I used the tablets. I take about 1/3 of my daily dose of C in a way which may convert much of the ascorbic acid into Magnesium Ascorbate. I say " may " because I do not know for sure. In my morning smoothie, I use about 10-12 grams of ascorbic acid, plus about 4-6 grams of Magnesium carbonate powder. Just how much of the magnesium carbonate reacts with the ascorbic acid before I drink it, I do not know. I do know it tastes less tart than when I use just ascorbic acid. Alobar - " Morton Bodanis " <mortonmb Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:17 PM Re: Esterified C > JoAnn > Have you read the book? Does he give the studies to corroborated his > statements? > > The acidity of vitamin C should not have as " acidific " effect on the > stomach as the stomach is much more acidic than is vitamin C. It has > already been established that aspirin alone, even in small quantities, > can cause bleeding in the stomach; this is why there are coated aspirin > tablets. Will vitamin C taken alone cause stomach bleeding/ulceration? > Not very likely. > > Morton > > JoAnn Guest wrote: > > >Esterified-C JoAnn Guest Feb 14, 2003 11:11 PST James Balch has some good information > >regarding Ester-C in his book > > " Prescription for Nutritional Healing. " > > > >This is a great reference for both vitamins and herbs. > >He says and I quote: > > > > " Esterified vitamin C is a remarkably effective form of vitamin C, > >especially for those whoe are suffering from chronic disease such as > >cancer and AIDS. It is created by having the vitamin C react with a > >necessary mineral, such as calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, or > >zinc. " > > > > " This results in a form of the vitamin that is nonacidic and that > >contains vitamin C metabolites identical to those produced by the > >body. > > > >Esterified vitamin C enters the bloodstream and tissues four times > >faster than standard vitamin C, moves into the blood cells more > >efficiently, and also stays in the body tissue longer. " > > > > " he levels of vitamin C in white blood cells achieved by taking > >esterified vitamin C are four times higher than those achieved with > >standard vitamin C. Further, only one-third as much is lost through > >excretion in the urine. > >Natrol produces supplements of Ester-C in combination with other > >valuable nutrients; one with the antioxidants Pycnogenol and > >proanthocyanidins, another with the herb echinacea, and still another > >with garlic. " > > > >Vitamin C increases the absorption of iron. New evidence indicates > >that vitamin C works synergistically with vitamin E --that is when > >these vitamins work together, they have a greater effect than when > >they work separately. Vitamin E scavenges for dangerous free radicals > >in cell membranes, while vitamin C attacks free radicals in biologic > >fluids. These vitamins reinforce and extend each other's antioxidant > >activity. " > > > >If aspirin and standard vitamin C are taken together in large doses, > >stomach irritation can occur, possibly leading to ulcers. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 ---Morton, Yes, I have read the book -(portions of it anyway), --it is lengthy, around 600 pages in all.As for studies, there aren't any that I see listed. I would take the aspirin recommendation with a grain of salt,however remembering his allopathic background. Of course aspirin is acidic, it also depletes precious nutrients, vitamin C included. I would never take an aspirin for any reason, and certainly not in combination with any form of vitamin C. In another portion of his book, he says that the C present in whole citrus fruits is not acidic, rather alkaline. This is new to me. It is interesting to note his thoughts on acidosis. He says and I quote: Acidosis occurs when the body loses its alkaline reserve. Some causes of acidosis include kidney, liver, and adrenal disorders; improper diet; malnutrition; obesity; ketosis; anger; stress; fear; anorexia; toxemia; fever; and the consumption of excessive amounts of niacin, vitamin C, or aspirin. Diabetics often suffer from acidosis. Stomach ulcers are often associated with this condition. Since excess vitamin C may lead to acidosis, reduce your intake of vitamin C for a few weeks. Resume with a non-acid forming (buffered) variety. Keep in mind, these are not my thoughts. <g> God Bless, JoAnn In Gettingwell , JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo> wrote: > Esterified-C JoAnn Guest Feb 14, 2003 11:11 PST James Balch has some good information > regarding Ester-C in his book > " Prescription for Nutritional Healing. " > > This is a great reference for both vitamins and herbs. > He says and I quote: > > " Esterified vitamin C is a remarkably effective form of vitamin C, > especially for those whoe are suffering from chronic disease such as > cancer and AIDS. It is created by having the vitamin C react with a > necessary mineral, such as calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, or > zinc. " > > " This results in a form of the vitamin that is nonacidic and that > contains vitamin C metabolites identical to those produced by the > body. > > Esterified vitamin C enters the bloodstream and tissues four times > faster than standard vitamin C, moves into the blood cells more > efficiently, and also stays in the body tissue longer. " > > " he levels of vitamin C in white blood cells achieved by taking > esterified vitamin C are four times higher than those achieved with > standard vitamin C. Further, only one-third as much is lost through > excretion in the urine. > Natrol produces supplements of Ester-C in combination with other > valuable nutrients; one with the antioxidants Pycnogenol and > proanthocyanidins, another with the herb echinacea, and still another > with garlic. " > > Vitamin C increases the absorption of iron. New evidence indicates > that vitamin C works synergistically with vitamin E --that is when > these vitamins work together, they have a greater effect than when > they work separately. Vitamin E scavenges for dangerous free radicals > in cell membranes, while vitamin C attacks free radicals in biologic > fluids. These vitamins reinforce and extend each other's antioxidant > activity. " > > If aspirin and standard vitamin C are taken together in large doses, > stomach irritation can occur, possibly leading to ulcers. " > > > JoAnn Guest > jgu- > Friendsforhea- > DietaryTi- > http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Botanicals.html > http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html > > *theaimcompanies* > -Wisdom of the past,Food of the future- > " Health is not a Medical Issue " > > > The complete " Whole Body " Health line consists of the " AIM GARDEN TRIO " > Ask About Health Professional Support Series: AIM Barleygreen > > " Wisdom of the Past, Food of the Future " > > http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html > > > > > > > Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 <In another portion of his book, he says that the C present in whole citrus fruits is not acidic, rather alkaline. This is new to me.> I don't know if the C in citrus, when isolated, is alkaline, but all citrus fruit certainly turns alkaline as soon as digestion, with saliva, begins. You have only to use some pH paper to test that idea. Claire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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