Crosspost - removing meds from the equation - sorry its long

[Guest guest]

Thought I would send this to you all for info just in case you are wondering

about how to remove meds safely - just my opinion and the way I did it, I am

sure there are a lot of others who have also managed to get off meds in all

sorts of ways.

 

 

Hi, I read a post from John P to JoAnn about getting off of meds - I thought

about this and have decided that perhaps my experience would be of help to

you John.

 

I joined these groups some 15 months ago, taking approx 8 meds per day and

feeling that I would be dead by the age of 55 if I didn't do something to

recover my health. At that point I was not aware that I could reverse any of

the problems that I had - narrowed arteries (60% & 80% blockages), hbp, high

cholesterol, gallstones, thyroid problems that 2 years later have still not

been resolved fully but I didn't/don't take meds for it. I had been told by

my dr and my sister (a nurse in allopathics and also a natural therapist, but

30 years of having this drummed into her) that it was impossible to reverse

the damage but it was possible to keep it under control with DRUGS.

 

After a couple of months on the groups I knew that this was in fact a total

fabrication of the truth. I tried kombucha, tibetan mushrooms (kefir -

totally disgusting but very healthy if you can cope with it). I then decided,

with help from a lot of people on these groups and especially JoAnn as she

had been there and far worse than I ever want to be, that I would do this by

changing my diet and getting rid of those meds. It took me about 6 months in

total to wean myself of them safely. Cold Turkey is not good.

 

I started in January 2002 by going 50% organic within 3 months I was 75%

organic and today I am 98% organic, the 2% is what you cannot buy organic as

yet. It took me this long because I had trouble in the beginning convincing

my husband that this was the right way to go - today he is 98% organic also

and totally agrees with me. I also started slowly on using organic extra

virgin olive oil, that first bottle lasting me about 2 months, today I get

through double that size bottle in a month. I do still have organic butter

but 1 pack (8oz) lasts me about 2 months because I eat very little bread

although I make all my own I try to stay away from it but my husband has

always had sandwiches for work and will not give them up and nor would I want

him to but he uses organic soya spread for his.

 

Removing hydrogenated fats from the diet is the absolute first priority, if

you don't do anything and carry on with the meds, you must remove

hydrogenated fats from your diet.

 

I then started to work on reducing the meds, very slowly. If I took 1 per

day, I reduced them to 1 every other day for 2 weeks, then 1 every 3 days for

2 weeks etc. If I took more than 1 per day, I reduced them by 1 a day and so

on. It will take a long time but it is definitely worth it. If you want to

do it by one health issue at a time that is fine, if you are just on

betablockers then it will be easy. I had beta blockers, bp pills, statins,

aspirin and something to take when I had a gallstone attack. I removed the

statins first and must admit that I just stopped taking these because I

learned just what they were doing to me, then aspirin and replaced them

immediately with white willow bark, then betablockers, then bp. The

gallstone ones are something that I still have but only have to take when all

else fails during an attack (very very painful attacks) which is very rare as

I have them pretty much sussed right now.

 

Today I take only supplements, my bp is still slightly raised but it is down

enough to keep me off any meds, it was 180/90 at one point but last week it

was 145/85 - I am still working on it and working on relaxation techniques so

that I remove the stress factor which I have been told is 3/4 of my problem.

 

Hope this helps John, start those organic foods TODAY, start using organic EV

olive oil TODAY, read those labels and ensure that you are not ingesting any

hydrogenated fats TODAY - you will be able to wean yourself off those meds

immediately and in a very short space of time you will be feeling on top of

the world. If you are lucky enough to have a dr who will monitor you whilst

you go through these changes then that would be fantastic, unfortunately, my

dr would not even mention 'alternative' and had no intention of helping me to

get off any meds.

 

Hope this helps and sorry it was so long.

 

Marianne

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

If anyone decides to get off medications, they should be monitered

during that period by a health professional to insure that it is done

safely.

 

Also, some medications have to be tapered over longer periods of

time, so really learn about them before hand, not after you have

tapered them too fast. Otherwise with some medications there could be

a problem.

 

Your health decisions are up to you and your health care provider.

The members in this group are not doctors and we do not know your

medical conditions therefore we cannot advocate that you alter or

stop your medications in any way.

 

We can only trade information here but, we do advocate that everyone

educate themselves on all their personal health issues fully.

 

Moderator.

 

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell , marianne2406@a... wrote:

> Thought I would send this to you all for info just in case you are

wondering

> about how to remove meds safely - just my opinion and the way I did

it, I am

> sure there are a lot of others who have also managed to get off

meds in all

> sorts of ways.

>

>

> Hi, I read a post from John P to JoAnn about getting off of meds -

I thought

> about this and have decided that perhaps my experience would be of

help to

> you John.

>

> I joined these groups some 15 months ago, taking approx 8 meds per

day and

> feeling that I would be dead by the age of 55 if I didn't do

something to

> recover my health. At that point I was not aware that I could

reverse any of

> the problems that I had - narrowed arteries (60% & 80% blockages),

hbp, high

> cholesterol, gallstones, thyroid problems that 2 years later have

still not

> been resolved fully but I didn't/don't take meds for it. I had

been told by

> my dr and my sister (a nurse in allopathics and also a natural

therapist, but

> 30 years of having this drummed into her) that it was impossible to

reverse

> the damage but it was possible to keep it under control with DRUGS.

>

> After a couple of months on the groups I knew that this was in fact

a total

> fabrication of the truth. I tried kombucha, tibetan mushrooms

(kefir -

> totally disgusting but very healthy if you can cope with it). I

then decided,

> with help from a lot of people on these groups and especially JoAnn

as she

> had been there and far worse than I ever want to be, that I would

do this by

> changing my diet and getting rid of those meds. It took me about 6

months in

> total to wean myself of them safely. Cold Turkey is not good.

>

> I started in January 2002 by going 50% organic within 3 months I

was 75%

> organic and today I am 98% organic, the 2% is what you cannot buy

organic as

> yet. It took me this long because I had trouble in the beginning

convincing

> my husband that this was the right way to go - today he is 98%

organic also

> and totally agrees with me. I also started slowly on using organic

extra

> virgin olive oil, that first bottle lasting me about 2 months,

today I get

> through double that size bottle in a month. I do still have

organic butter

> but 1 pack (8oz) lasts me about 2 months because I eat very little

bread

> although I make all my own I try to stay away from it but my

husband has

> always had sandwiches for work and will not give them up and nor

would I want

> him to but he uses organic soya spread for his.

>

> Removing hydrogenated fats from the diet is the absolute first

priority, if

> you don't do anything and carry on with the meds, you must remove

> hydrogenated fats from your diet.

>

> I then started to work on reducing the meds, very slowly. If I

took 1 per

> day, I reduced them to 1 every other day for 2 weeks, then 1 every

3 days for

> 2 weeks etc. If I took more than 1 per day, I reduced them by 1 a

day and so

> on. It will take a long time but it is definitely worth it. If

you want to

> do it by one health issue at a time that is fine, if you are just

on

> betablockers then it will be easy. I had beta blockers, bp pills,

statins,

> aspirin and something to take when I had a gallstone attack. I

removed the

> statins first and must admit that I just stopped taking these

because I

> learned just what they were doing to me, then aspirin and replaced

them

> immediately with white willow bark, then betablockers, then bp.

The

> gallstone ones are something that I still have but only have to

take when all

> else fails during an attack (very very painful attacks) which is

very rare as

> I have them pretty much sussed right now.

>

> Today I take only supplements, my bp is still slightly raised but

it is down

> enough to keep me off any meds, it was 180/90 at one point but last

week it

> was 145/85 - I am still working on it and working on relaxation

techniques so

> that I remove the stress factor which I have been told is 3/4 of my

problem.

>

> Hope this helps John, start those organic foods TODAY, start using

organic EV

> olive oil TODAY, read those labels and ensure that you are not

ingesting any

> hydrogenated fats TODAY - you will be able to wean yourself off

those meds

> immediately and in a very short space of time you will be feeling

on top of

> the world. If you are lucky enough to have a dr who will monitor

you whilst

> you go through these changes then that would be fantastic,

unfortunately, my

> dr would not even mention 'alternative' and had no intention of

helping me to

> get off any meds.

>

> Hope this helps and sorry it was so long.

>

> Marianne

>

>

>