Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 Don- The Oregano oil I am talking about is Cass Ingrams Oregano oil which is already diluted and able to be taken as directed in his book. There is no problem with following directions in his book. I suggest that you read the book and not be closed minded about this Don't be so wrapped up in your "studying to be certified" that you consider anything outside of what you're being taught as misinformation. I would not post misinformation. If something works for me, I am going to tell everyone. Oregano oil works for me. If nothing else, go flip through the pages of the book "The Cure is in the Cupboard" at your local health food store. This is not rocket science, and since the oil is already diluted for a person, and directions clearly say in the book that MORE IS NOT BETTER. You and I know thats where people get into trouble...not following instructions that have been given. I also use GSE and Neem but not all at the same time, although I doubt that it would hurt a person, but it would be overkill literally. I'm getting ready to post a tattletale boo boo on myself. I really did a no no last night, and really not ashamed to admit it. Might make someone laugh. I'm sure you would never do this, cause I sorta see you as the kind of guy that follows everything to the letter and does not experiment on your own. I am making my own natural antibiotics from wild herbs here in Florida..who knows, maybe I'll sell them someday?? hugs, Elaine - Don Eitner herbal remedies Saturday, June 08, 2002 11:15 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Elaine, As a student of Aromatherapy and working towards my Certification I agree with you about studying and empowering oneself with knowledge, as well as, following time tested instruction. However, as you probably well know, there is a lot of misinformation out there on this subject and many people do get themselves into trouble by not doing the research and learning. I meant no offense. I am not familiar with the author nor the book you cited. I am sure that it is a very good book and you seem to be quite knowledgeable where it comes to complementary therapies. But because these oils are fat soluble, they are stored in the fat if taken too long or in too large of a dose. That is why there are Recommended Daily Dosages. I would only like to add that this person should not take Oregano Oil for more than 2 weeks and no more than 2 drops, internally, 3 times per day. Take a break of a week in between before starting use again. I would also suggest that they not be taken undiluted under the tongue but with water or juice. This oil is an irritant due to phenol constituents. The sources I cite are Essential Oil Safety by Robert Tisserand & Tony Balacs and The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Essential Oils by Julia Lawless. Always your humble servant in light, Don Eitner ---- herbal remedies Saturday, June 08, 2002 06:15:29 AM herbal remedies Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Don, the few drops of Oregano oil (which is found at the health food store and made by the author of "The Cure is in the Cupboard", those few drops are not an overload on ones system, but rather the cure. I can say that Poke root is toxic and DON'T take Poke root, but that is only half true. Poke root can kill you, but a little will cure you. Studying and following time tested instruction is the best thing anyone can do. Oregano oil (follow the book and listen to the author) and no one can go wrong here. respectfully, Elaine - Don Eitner herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Depending on which species of Oregano you get your essential oil from, and unless you know your supplier very well, I would suggest an oil that is quite a bit less toxic. Oregano contains both Carvacrol and Thymol in varying amounts depending on species of Oregano. Carvacrol is a phenolic terpene which is irritating and corrosive because of its phenol-like nature. Thymol is a phenol and a major component in thyme and oregano, savory and ajowan; it is an irritant. Used externally say 2 to 3 drops in 1oz. of base oil (Extra virgin Olive oil is good), would be okay for eczema. But I would rather suggest using Essential Oil of Bergamot which has pretty much the same properties as Oregano oil without the carvacrol and thymol, making it less toxic to use inside. However, because it contains bergaptene, Bergamot Oil can cause photosensitization to the skin. So if you use it externally stay out of the sun for up to 12 hours. Bergamot oil may be used at up to 5 drops in 1 oz. of base oil. You may also take 3 drops between meals 3 times a day. Do not exceed the recommended dosage. Bergamot oil is not considered to cause photosensitization when taken internally. Any essential oil is potentially toxic at high dosages. Always your humble servant in light, Don Eitner ---- herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 01:03:59 PM herbal remedies [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Well, I hope I don't get in trouble for quoting a book I found at Goodwill. I have kept myself from getting the flu thats going around--remember me bragging about that last week?? Still am well as can be. I'd rather get in trouble for quoting a book, than from my state for supposedly prescribing a cure!!! (Ian you know what I mean...isn't Florida just something else!!) I've never had eczema, but I've been reading about it in "The Cure is in the Cupboard" by Cass Ingram(the book I found at Goodwill). He says on page 64 that "..the culprits include several varieties of fungi as well as staph and strep. Whats more, the researchers discovered that when the organisms were killed, the eczema was cleared." "Oil of oregano is an ideal topical remedy for eczema. This is because it attacks the cuse and also relieves symptoms. Oregano oil contains a variety of antiinflammatory compounds which reduce the swelling in eczmatous lesions, halt itching, and stop scaling. The antiseptics in the oil effectively destroy microbes found within the lesions. The pure extra virgin olive oil (my comment: this is what the oregano oil is diluted with) soothes skin, and olive oil itself is an antifungal and antibacterial agent. Treatment protocol: Rub oil of Oregano on all eczematous lesions twice daily. Take a few drops of the oil under the tongue twice daily. Also mix a drop or two of the oil in juice, milk, or water and consume once or twice daily. " There are oregano capsules to be taken three times daily also which are found at the health food store. Whew, Ian, I did it without mentioning brands or websites!!! Elaine - marilouis52 herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 1:35 PM [herbal remedies] too soon to ask for help? I realize I just joined this group and I hope no one thinks badly of me for asking, but I have eczema on my hands and lower legs that just about drives me out of my mind. The only thing I've ever done about it is use Dove soap and turn down my shower. Is there anything anyone can think of for me to try? I've been tormented by this for 14 years. If anyone can help me, I'll knit a pair of socks for him/her. thank you everyone and forgive me for asking for help before you even know me.marilynFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. 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Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 Elaine, Please forgive me. You are correct in your assessment. I was unaware that it was already diluted. And for the record, I do experiment quite extensively on my own, just not where it concerns another. How else would anyone discover truth? Be in peace and light. Always your humble servant in light, Don Eitner ---- herbal remedies Saturday, June 08, 2002 07:48:30 AM herbal remedies [herbal remedies] Re:/Oregano oil & capsules Don- The Oregano oil I am talking about is Cass Ingrams Oregano oil which is already diluted and able to be taken as directed in his book. There is no problem with following directions in his book. I suggest that you read the book and not be closed minded about this Don't be so wrapped up in your "studying to be certified" that you consider anything outside of what you're being taught as misinformation. I would not post misinformation. If something works for me, I am going to tell everyone. Oregano oil works for me. If nothing else, go flip through the pages of the book "The Cure is in the Cupboard" at your local health food store. This is not rocket science, and since the oil is already diluted for a person, and directions clearly say in the book that MORE IS NOT BETTER. You and I know thats where people get into trouble...not following instructions that have been given. I also use GSE and Neem but not all at the same time, although I doubt that it would hurt a person, but it would be overkill literally. I'm getting ready to post a tattletale boo boo on myself. I really did a no no last night, and really not ashamed to admit it. Might make someone laugh. I'm sure you would never do this, cause I sorta see you as the kind of guy that follows everything to the letter and does not experiment on your own. I am making my own natural antibiotics from wild herbs here in Florida..who knows, maybe I'll sell them someday?? hugs, Elaine - Don Eitner herbal remedies Saturday, June 08, 2002 11:15 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Elaine, As a student of Aromatherapy and working towards my Certification I agree with you about studying and empowering oneself with knowledge, as well as, following time tested instruction. However, as you probably well know, there is a lot of misinformation out there on this subject and many people do get themselves into trouble by not doing the research and learning. I meant no offense. I am not familiar with the author nor the book you cited. I am sure that it is a very good book and you seem to be quite knowledgeable where it comes to complementary therapies. But because these oils are fat soluble, they are stored in the fat if taken too long or in too large of a dose. That is why there are Recommended Daily Dosages. I would only like to add that this person should not take Oregano Oil for more than 2 weeks and no more than 2 drops, internally, 3 times per day. Take a break of a week in between before starting use again. I would also suggest that they not be taken undiluted under the tongue but with water or juice. This oil is an irritant due to phenol constituents. The sources I cite are Essential Oil Safety by Robert Tisserand & Tony Balacs and The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Essential Oils by Julia Lawless. Always your humble servant in light, Don Eitner ---- herbal remedies Saturday, June 08, 2002 06:15:29 AM herbal remedies Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Don, the few drops of Oregano oil (which is found at the health food store and made by the author of "The Cure is in the Cupboard", those few drops are not an overload on ones system, but rather the cure. I can say that Poke root is toxic and DON'T take Poke root, but that is only half true. Poke root can kill you, but a little will cure you. Studying and following time tested instruction is the best thing anyone can do. Oregano oil (follow the book and listen to the author) and no one can go wrong here. respectfully, Elaine - Don Eitner herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Depending on which species of Oregano you get your essential oil from, and unless you know your supplier very well, I would suggest an oil that is quite a bit less toxic. Oregano contains both Carvacrol and Thymol in varying amounts depending on species of Oregano. Carvacrol is a phenolic terpene which is irritating and corrosive because of its phenol-like nature. Thymol is a phenol and a major component in thyme and oregano, savory and ajowan; it is an irritant. Used externally say 2 to 3 drops in 1oz. of base oil (Extra virgin Olive oil is good), would be okay for eczema. But I would rather suggest using Essential Oil of Bergamot which has pretty much the same properties as Oregano oil without the carvacrol and thymol, making it less toxic to use inside. However, because it contains bergaptene, Bergamot Oil can cause photosensitization to the skin. So if you use it externally stay out of the sun for up to 12 hours. Bergamot oil may be used at up to 5 drops in 1 oz. of base oil. You may also take 3 drops between meals 3 times a day. Do not exceed the recommended dosage. Bergamot oil is not considered to cause photosensitization when taken internally. Any essential oil is potentially toxic at high dosages. Always your humble servant in light, Don Eitner ---- herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 01:03:59 PM herbal remedies [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Well, I hope I don't get in trouble for quoting a book I found at Goodwill. I have kept myself from getting the flu thats going around--remember me bragging about that last week?? Still am well as can be. I'd rather get in trouble for quoting a book, than from my state for supposedly prescribing a cure!!! (Ian you know what I mean...isn't Florida just something else!!) I've never had eczema, but I've been reading about it in "The Cure is in the Cupboard" by Cass Ingram(the book I found at Goodwill). He says on page 64 that "..the culprits include several varieties of fungi as well as staph and strep. Whats more, the researchers discovered that when the organisms were killed, the eczema was cleared." "Oil of oregano is an ideal topical remedy for eczema. This is because it attacks the cuse and also relieves symptoms. Oregano oil contains a variety of antiinflammatory compounds which reduce the swelling in eczmatous lesions, halt itching, and stop scaling. The antiseptics in the oil effectively destroy microbes found within the lesions. The pure extra virgin olive oil (my comment: this is what the oregano oil is diluted with) soothes skin, and olive oil itself is an antifungal and antibacterial agent. Treatment protocol: Rub oil of Oregano on all eczematous lesions twice daily. Take a few drops of the oil under the tongue twice daily. Also mix a drop or two of the oil in juice, milk, or water and consume once or twice daily. " There are oregano capsules to be taken three times daily also which are found at the health food store. Whew, Ian, I did it without mentioning brands or websites!!! Elaine - marilouis52 herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 1:35 PM [herbal remedies] too soon to ask for help? I realize I just joined this group and I hope no one thinks badly of me for asking, but I have eczema on my hands and lower legs that just about drives me out of my mind. The only thing I've ever done about it is use Dove soap and turn down my shower. Is there anything anyone can think of for me to try? I've been tormented by this for 14 years. If anyone can help me, I'll knit a pair of socks for him/her. thank you everyone and forgive me for asking for help before you even know me.marilynFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. 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Guest guest Posted June 8, 2002 Report Share Posted June 8, 2002 Ian, you have have them knitted socks...Florida is so hot, that just thinking about anything knitted makes me break out in a sweat!!!! I don't wear socks...So scoot your other socks over to make room for your new ones!!! Snit?? ROTFL!!!!! You're too cute!!!! Elaine - Ian Shillington N.D. herbal remedies Saturday, June 08, 2002 2:08 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Absolutely. This is one of the reasons Valorie and I moved away from Florida. I mean, after they pass a law which makes it illegal to practice Naturopathy unless you have a licence, but neglect to mention they haven't issued a licence in over 16 years, I found the atomosphere just a little too stifling. Elaine, ya gotta stop making me out to be such an ogre when it comes to mentioning websites, etc. I do it all the time when it comes to "EDUCATION" or if there's a product (that I'm not selling), which I think is very beneficial such as UDO's Oil, etc. I know I can get into a snit once in a while, but there's no reason to rub it in (LOL). By the way, you can forget about giving any further advice about eczema, those knitted socks are MINE!!! ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Elaine Davis herbal remedies Friday, June 07, 2002 1:05 PM [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules Well, I hope I don't get in trouble for quoting a book I found at Goodwill. I have kept myself from getting the flu thats going around ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release 6/5/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Elaine, I use oregano oil , I am here in Australia and what we have is said to be pure...and it is strong as h--l.... It has corrected the following for me... Cold Sores on lips took six hours for a scab to formed and was completely gone in four days. I am one of those people who get them at least once a year and it was a bitch to heal them , took upto a month at times to get rid of them.... My husband recently had a dog bite on his wrist (our dog and my hubby's fault) he applied the oil directy to the punctures and within hours it satrted to heal , next morning the wounds looked about 2 weeks old... Colds, etc....2 drops every 12 hours and away goes the problems, we eat a fresh lemon to cut the taste, it is strong.. This Oil of Oregano for me the best natural medcine available.... I read recently that a study was done (I believe Georgetown Med, using oregano vs other antibiotics against some of the super bugs and the oregano was just as effective as the biotics....The researcher said " If Oregano was a drug, people would be standing on line to buy it " Love always Paz ..--- Elaine Davis <twobears wrote: > Don- The Oregano oil I am talking about is Cass > Ingrams Oregano oil which is already diluted and > able to be taken as directed in his book. There is > no problem with following directions in his book. I > suggest that you read the book and not be closed > minded about this Don't be so wrapped up in your > " studying to be certified " that you consider > anything outside of what you're being taught as > misinformation. I would not post misinformation. If > something works for me, I am going to tell everyone. > Oregano oil works for me. If nothing else, go flip > through the pages of the book " The Cure is in the > Cupboard " at your local health food store. This is > not rocket science, and since the oil is already > diluted for a person, and directions clearly say in > the book that MORE IS NOT BETTER. You and I know > thats where people get into trouble...not following > instructions that have been given. I also use GSE > and Neem but not all at the same time, although I > doubt that it would hurt a person, but it would be > overkill literally. > I'm getting ready to post a tattletale boo boo on > myself. I really did a no no last night, and really > not ashamed to admit it. Might make someone laugh. > I'm sure you would never do this, cause I sorta see > you as the kind of guy that follows everything to > the letter and does not experiment on your own. I am > making my own natural antibiotics from wild herbs > here in Florida..who knows, maybe I'll sell them > someday?? > hugs, Elaine > - > Don Eitner > herbal remedies > Saturday, June 08, 2002 11:15 AM > Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon to ask > for help?/Oregano oil & capsules > > > Elaine, > As a student of Aromatherapy and working > towards my Certification I agree with you about > studying and empowering oneself with knowledge, as > well as, following time tested instruction. However, > as you probably well know, there is a lot of > misinformation out there on this subject and many > people do get themselves into trouble by not doing > the research and learning. I meant no offense. I am > not familiar with the author nor the book you cited. > I am sure that it is a very good book and you seem > to be quite knowledgeable where it comes to > complementary therapies. But because these oils are > fat soluble, they are stored in the fat if taken too > long or in too large of a dose. That is why there > are Recommended Daily Dosages. I would only like to > add that this person should not take Oregano Oil for > more than 2 weeks and no more than 2 drops, > internally, 3 times per day. Take a break of a week > in between before starting use again. I would also > suggest that they not be taken undiluted under the > tongue but with water or juice. This oil is an > irritant due to phenol constituents. The sources I > cite are Essential Oil Safety by Robert Tisserand & > Tony Balacs and The Illustrated Encyclopedia of > Essential Oils by Julia Lawless. > > Always your humble servant in light, > > Don Eitner > > ---- > > herbal remedies > Saturday, June 08, 2002 06:15:29 AM > herbal remedies > Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too soon > to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules > > Don, the few drops of Oregano oil (which is > found at the health food store and made by the > author of " The Cure is in the Cupboard " , those few > drops are not an overload on ones system, but rather > the cure. > I can say that Poke root is toxic and DON'T > take Poke root, but that is only half true. Poke > root can kill you, but a little will cure you. > Studying and following time tested > instruction is the best thing anyone can do. Oregano > oil (follow the book and listen to the author) and > no one can go wrong here. > respectfully, Elaine > - > Don Eitner > herbal remedies > Friday, June 07, 2002 7:35 PM > Re: [herbal remedies] Re: too > soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules > > > Depending on which species of > Oregano you get your essential oil from, and unless > you know your supplier very well, I would suggest an > oil that is quite a bit less toxic. Oregano contains > both Carvacrol and Thymol in varying amounts > depending on species of Oregano. Carvacrol is a > phenolic terpene which is irritating and corrosive > because of its phenol-like nature. Thymol is a > phenol and a major component in thyme and oregano, > savory and ajowan; it is an irritant. Used > externally say 2 to 3 drops in 1oz. of base oil > (Extra virgin Olive oil is good), would be okay for > eczema. But I would rather suggest using Essential > Oil of Bergamot which has pretty much the same > properties as Oregano oil without the carvacrol and > thymol, making it less toxic to use inside. However, > because it contains bergaptene, Bergamot Oil can > cause photosensitization to the skin. So if you use > it externally stay out of the sun for up to 12 > hours. Bergamot oil may be used at up to 5 drops in > 1 oz. of base oil. You may also take 3 drops between > meals 3 times a day. Do not exceed the recommended > dosage. Bergamot oil is not considered to cause > photosensitization when taken internally. Any > essential oil is potentially toxic at high dosages. > > Always your humble servant in light, > > Don Eitner > > ---- > > > herbal remedies > Friday, June 07, 2002 01:03:59 > PM > herbal remedies > [herbal remedies] Re: too > soon to ask for help?/Oregano oil & capsules > > Well, I hope I don't get in trouble > for quoting a book I found at Goodwill. I have kept > myself from getting the flu thats going > around--remember me bragging about that last week?? > Still am well as can be. I'd rather get in trouble > for quoting a book, than from my state for > supposedly prescribing a cure!!! (Ian you know what > I mean...isn't Florida just something else!!) > I've never had eczema, but I've > been reading about it in " The Cure is in the > Cupboard " by Cass Ingram(the book I found at > Goodwill). He says on page 64 that " ..the culprits > include several varieties of fungi as well as staph > and strep. Whats more, the researchers discovered > that when the organisms were killed, the eczema was > cleared. " > " Oil of oregano is an ideal topical > remedy for eczema. This is because it attacks the > cuse and also relieves symptoms. Oregano oil > contains a variety of antiinflammatory compounds > which reduce the swelling in eczmatous lesions, halt > itching, and stop scaling. The antiseptics in the > oil effectively destroy microbes found within the > lesions. The pure extra virgin olive oil (my > comment: this is what the oregano oil is diluted > with) soothes skin, and olive oil itself is an > antifungal and antibacterial agent. > Treatment protocol: > Rub oil of Oregano on all eczematous > lesions twice daily. Take a few drops of the oil > under the tongue twice daily. Also mix a drop or two > of the oil in juice, milk, or water and consume once > or twice daily. " There are oregano capsules to be > taken three times daily also which are found at the > health food store. > Whew, Ian, I did it without > mentioning brands or websites!!! > Elaine > - > marilouis52 > To: > herbal remedies > Friday, June 07, 2002 1:35 > PM > [herbal remedies] too > soon to ask for help? > > > I realize I just joined this group > and I hope no one thinks badly of > me for asking, but I have eczema > on my hands and lower legs that just > about drives me out of my mind. > The only thing I've ever done about > it is use Dove soap and turn down > my shower. Is there anything anyone > can think of for me to try? I've > been tormented by this for 14 years. > If anyone can help me, I'll knit a > pair of socks for him/her. thank > you everyone and forgive me for > asking for help before you even know > === message truncated === - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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