Turning over a new leaf, Dangerous?

[Guest guest]

Many religions have doctrines about fasting at certain times. And i have known

for a long time that many people who were deprived of food at some point in

their youth tend to be very healthy. (I used to know a couple of concentration

camp survivors.)

 

Unless someone has contracted diabetes, it is a good idea to fast sometimes.

The frequency has to be determined for each individual.

 

I'm not so sure about the Islamic fast, where you abstain from food during the

day for a month, but eat a hearty meal in the evening. That almost seems

counterproductive, but i would like to see some research on that particular

point before making up my mind.

 

One of the great tragedies associated with cancer is that electromedicine has

never been adequately studied in relation to it. The few who had the courage to

do this were generally shot down, including Wilhelm Reich and Royal Rife. In

Germany researchers fared better, and Dr. Josef Oberbach and Hans Nieper

survived to great ages, despite heavy propaganda campaigns against them.

 

I keep thinking you should somehow get in touch with some electrical researchers

in Australia and maybe we could have a three-way discussion. There are many

possibilities, even though this is all way beyond herbal medicine.

 

It is my belief, then, that a course of electromedicine would be appropriate in

a case such as the one you described. But it definitely should be combined with

good nutrition. By finding the resonant frequency against cancer cells and

zapping them while simultaneously improving nutrition, you get around the

phenomenon you just described so well.

 

On Fri, 17 May 2002 20:55:01 -0700 Victim <tom wrote:

 

I have a couple off things to throw out amongst the

masses and see what you guys have to say about it all.

I had a friend die of lymphoma when he was 25, once

he developed the condition he cleaned up his act and was sent to see a dietician

by his doctor, the tumor spread rapidly thorough him and he was dead in a

year.He waited three months after first discovering the lump before having it

diagnosed, silly mistake cost him a lot.My thoughts are that if you have any

cancerous cells in your body and you switch from your barely life sustaining

diet to one much healthier is it likely that you will encourage those cancer

cells to flourish and live a happy and healthy life as well.I have read that the

body will seek and destroy anything foriegn when it is hungary or nutritionaly

starved.Would it be advantagous to perform a thourogh fast as the transition

between diets to ensure that the body first destroys any possible enemys lurking

within.Could the bulk of our cancer problems of today be because we never go

hungary anymore.In days gone bye nearly everyone would go hungary on occasion

and maybe this is enough for the body to do its work and recognise and repair

itself. My mental perception of my own health changed with the death of my

friend and i hope it will only ever be a possitive one that educates me and not

one that haunts me as it has done from time to time. Thanks

 

Tom

Newcastle

Australia.

[Guest guest]

There are several therapies/books on treating cancer with fasting. I

can speak for the Breuss therapy, Rudolph Breuss that is. He wrote a

small book and I have a copy but haven't been able to find other

copies around. It requires fasting for 42 days on a specific

vegetable juice and herbal teas. My husband's mother went through

the therapy with decent results. After doing the Clark therapy, then

Breuss program, the large tumor under her right arm began pushing

itself out of her body through the skin. It was hard for her though,

for example, the last week of the Breuss fast she ate whole fruits

and vegetables because she wanted to eat so badly.

 

herbal remedies, " Victim " <tom@n...> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Michael. my mums out of the hospital after

being there

> for three weeks with no solution to the problems we previously

discussed

> ,and i thank you so much for your thoughts and advice about the

issue.

> anyway to do with the fasting issue, there is a local around here

who was

> sent home by his doc,as there was no more that modern medicine

could do. And

> what do you know this 70 plus gentleman cured himself with a diet

of fasting

> and inteligent nutrition. if i can find the book i will send you a

copy. it

> is only a small publication but i should be able to track it

down.Even the

> computer we use cant be programed to perform the miracles that the

body can

> do by itself yet the medical ferternity treat it like it was

designed

> yesterday and therefore they can improve and fix any of these

design flaws

> that occure

>

> Tom

> -

> Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...>

> <herbal remedies>

> Friday, May 17, 2002 7:01 AM

> Re: [herbal remedies] Turning over a new leaf, Dangerous?

>

>

> > Many religions have doctrines about fasting at certain times.

And i have

> known for a long time that many people who were deprived of food at

some

> point in their youth tend to be very healthy. (I used to know a

couple of

> concentration camp survivors.)

> >

> > Unless someone has contracted diabetes, it is a good idea to fast

> sometimes. The frequency has to be determined for each individual.

> >

> > I'm not so sure about the Islamic fast, where you abstain from

food during

> the day for a month, but eat a hearty meal in the evening. That

almost

> seems counterproductive, but i would like to see some research on

that

> particular point before making up my mind.

> >

> > One of the great tragedies associated with cancer is that

electromedicine

> has never been adequately studied in relation to it. The few who

had the

> courage to do this were generally shot down, including Wilhelm

Reich and

> Royal Rife. In Germany researchers fared better, and Dr. Josef

Oberbach and

> Hans Nieper survived to great ages, despite heavy propaganda

campaigns

> against them.

> >

> > I keep thinking you should somehow get in touch with some

electrical

> researchers in Australia and maybe we could have a three-way

discussion.

> There are many possibilities, even though this is all way beyond

herbal

> medicine.

> >

> > It is my belief, then, that a course of electromedicine would be

> appropriate in a case such as the one you described. But it

definitely

> should be combined with good nutrition. By finding the resonant

frequency

> against cancer cells and zapping them while simultaneously improving

> nutrition, you get around the phenomenon you just described so well.

> >

> > On Fri, 17 May 2002 20:55:01 -0700 Victim <tom@n...> wrote:

> >

> > I have a couple off things to throw out amongst the

> > masses and see what you guys have to say about it all.

> > I had a friend die of lymphoma when he was 25, once

> > he developed the condition he cleaned up his act and was sent to

see a

> dietician

> > by his doctor, the tumor spread rapidly thorough him and he was

dead in a

> > year.He waited three months after first discovering the lump

before having

> it

> > diagnosed, silly mistake cost him a lot.My thoughts are that if

you have

> any

> > cancerous cells in your body and you switch from your barely life

> sustaining

> > diet to one much healthier is it likely that you will encourage

those

> cancer

> > cells to flourish and live a happy and healthy life as well.I

have read

> that the

> > body will seek and destroy anything foriegn when it is hungary or

> nutritionaly

> > starved.Would it be advantagous to perform a thourogh fast as the

> transition

> > between diets to ensure that the body first destroys any possible

enemys

> lurking

> > within.Could the bulk of our cancer problems of today be because

we never

> go

> > hungary anymore.In days gone bye nearly everyone would go hungary

on

> occasion

> > and maybe this is enough for the body to do its work and

recognise and

> repair

> > itself. My mental perception of my own health changed with the

death of my

> > friend and i hope it will only ever be a possitive one that

educates me

> and not

> > one that haunts me as it has done from time to time. Thanks

> >

> > Tom

> > Newcastle

> > Australia.

> >

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural

> remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and

> to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here

as long

> as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any

> person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and

> members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > Dr.IanShillington@G...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have a couple off things to throw out amongst the masses and see what you guys have to say about it all.

I had a friend die of lymphoma when he was 25, once he developed the condition he cleaned up his act and was sent to see a dietician by his doctor, the tumor spread rapidly thorough him and he was dead in a year.He waited three months after first discovering the lump before having it diagnosed, silly mistake cost him a lot.My thoughts are that if you have any cancerous cells in your body and you switch from your barely life sustaining diet to one much healthier is it likely that you will encourage those cancer cells to flourish and live a happy and healthy life as well.I have read that the body will seek and destroy anything foriegn when it is hungary or nutritionaly starved.Would it be advantagous to perform a thourogh fast as the transition between diets to ensure that the body first destroys any possible enemys lurking within.Could the bulk of our cancer problems of today be because we never go hungary anymore.In days gone bye nearly everyone would go hungary on occasion and maybe this is enough for the body to do its work and recognise and repair itself. My mental perception of my own health changed with the death of my friend and i hope it will only ever be a possitive one that educates me and not one that haunts me as it has done from time to time. Thanks

 

Tom

Newcastle

Australia.

 

-

Sara Thustra

herbal remedies

Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:33 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Herbal for Fear

> Hello All. Name is Willy. Hey Willy! I don't think your question is weird. I suffer from bouts ofdread, hopeless feelings and panic myself. I am trying to eat better andtake herbs to help support my system, which you should be too--Not justbecause it's a good idea, but because the very act of trying to get youract together and treat yourself right can make you feel a lot better. Forinstance, this morning I was lamenting having forgotten something importantwhen I left for work -- I'm such a scatterbrain and it ticks me off no end-- but it made me feel better to think, Hey, I'm down to one cup of coffeea day for my fourth day in a row--So I'm doing something right! It helpsto have something you can think about that'll pick you up a little bit, andmaking progress with the healthiness of your lifestyle is a great way to dothat.I don't have anything to offer you as a quick-fix for the worst of yourmoments, but I'm sure someone else in the group does--these guys are theshiznit. (Me, I'm still young...so I've been known to smoke a doobie whenI get too stressed! *lol*) I do have an exercise or two that I do myselfwhen things get bad, and they really help me calm down and refocus on thepositive things--not a problem-solver, but a potential breakdown-preventer,and they've worked for me for quite a while now. If you'd like me toexplain them to you, just email me off-list and I'd be happy to. (I didn'tthink this would interest the list at large, but if anybody else on thelist wants that novel emailed to them, just ask--I'm not keeping secrets oranything!)Peace, Willy -- lots of it! --Sara Thustrahttp://netwinsite.com/dbabble http://www.nospamnews.comFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply Michael. my mums out of the hospital after being there

for three weeks with no solution to the problems we previously discussed

,and i thank you so much for your thoughts and advice about the issue.

anyway to do with the fasting issue, there is a local around here who was

sent home by his doc,as there was no more that modern medicine could do. And

what do you know this 70 plus gentleman cured himself with a diet of fasting

and inteligent nutrition. if i can find the book i will send you a copy. it

is only a small publication but i should be able to track it down.Even the

computer we use cant be programed to perform the miracles that the body can

do by itself yet the medical ferternity treat it like it was designed

yesterday and therefore they can improve and fix any of these design flaws

that occure

 

Tom

-

Michael Riversong <rivedu

<herbal remedies >

Friday, May 17, 2002 7:01 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Turning over a new leaf, Dangerous?

 

 

> Many religions have doctrines about fasting at certain times. And i have

known for a long time that many people who were deprived of food at some

point in their youth tend to be very healthy. (I used to know a couple of

concentration camp survivors.)

>

> Unless someone has contracted diabetes, it is a good idea to fast

sometimes. The frequency has to be determined for each individual.

>

> I'm not so sure about the Islamic fast, where you abstain from food during

the day for a month, but eat a hearty meal in the evening. That almost

seems counterproductive, but i would like to see some research on that

particular point before making up my mind.

>

> One of the great tragedies associated with cancer is that electromedicine

has never been adequately studied in relation to it. The few who had the

courage to do this were generally shot down, including Wilhelm Reich and

Royal Rife. In Germany researchers fared better, and Dr. Josef Oberbach and

Hans Nieper survived to great ages, despite heavy propaganda campaigns

against them.

>

> I keep thinking you should somehow get in touch with some electrical

researchers in Australia and maybe we could have a three-way discussion.

There are many possibilities, even though this is all way beyond herbal

medicine.

>

> It is my belief, then, that a course of electromedicine would be

appropriate in a case such as the one you described. But it definitely

should be combined with good nutrition. By finding the resonant frequency

against cancer cells and zapping them while simultaneously improving

nutrition, you get around the phenomenon you just described so well.

>

> On Fri, 17 May 2002 20:55:01 -0700 Victim <tom wrote:

>

> I have a couple off things to throw out amongst the

> masses and see what you guys have to say about it all.

> I had a friend die of lymphoma when he was 25, once

> he developed the condition he cleaned up his act and was sent to see a

dietician

> by his doctor, the tumor spread rapidly thorough him and he was dead in a

> year.He waited three months after first discovering the lump before having

it

> diagnosed, silly mistake cost him a lot.My thoughts are that if you have

any

> cancerous cells in your body and you switch from your barely life

sustaining

> diet to one much healthier is it likely that you will encourage those

cancer

> cells to flourish and live a happy and healthy life as well.I have read

that the

> body will seek and destroy anything foriegn when it is hungary or

nutritionaly

> starved.Would it be advantagous to perform a thourogh fast as the

transition

> between diets to ensure that the body first destroys any possible enemys

lurking

> within.Could the bulk of our cancer problems of today be because we never

go

> hungary anymore.In days gone bye nearly everyone would go hungary on

occasion

> and maybe this is enough for the body to do its work and recognise and

repair

> itself. My mental perception of my own health changed with the death of my

> friend and i hope it will only ever be a possitive one that educates me

and not

> one that haunts me as it has done from time to time. Thanks

>

> Tom

> Newcastle

> Australia.

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>