Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Hi I just received this, & thought it worth passing it along. Please use it as you see fit. Margaret Elaine wrote: Hi, I received this message confirming legislative changes in Europe banning nutritional supplementation in high dosages and only allowing low potency formulas over the counter due to the proven health benefits optimal dosages provide. This does not look like something we want to idly sit by and watch happen. Do what you can by adding your vote at www.vitamins-for-all.org Health Sciences Institute e-Alert April 29, 2002 ************************************************************** Dear Reader, Imagine dropping by your favorite health food store to find it boarded up and out of business. So you go around to your local drug mart to pick up some vitamin C, but the only dosage on the shelf is ridiculously low. The druggist informs you that 60 mg is now the maximum dosage available without a prescription. So if you've been taking a mega dosage of vitamin C to help fight heart disease or build up your immunity against cancer, you'll have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that dosage - you're no longer free to decide on your own how much of this natural vitamin you want to take. Sounds like a nightmare? It gets worse. Imagine that all of this is the result of new legislation imposed by lawmakers with direct ties to pharmaceutical companies - powerful companies that will use the law to create an enormous new source of profits. Now that's a real nightmare. But what makes it truly nightmarish is that, incredibly, it will soon become a reality in the United Kingdom and most of Europe - if the global pharmaceutical industry has its way. ----------------------------- Outlawing prevention ----------------------------- On March 13th the European Parliament - a 626-member legislative body representing the 15 European Union countries - passed the "EU Directive on Dietary Supplements," which classifies vitamins as medical drugs rather than food supplements. The Directive grants a transition period of three years for vitamin supplements already on the market. But in 2005, every EU country will be required to implement the Directive. As it currently stands, in just three years a wide range of natural remedies will be banned across most of Europe, making as many as 300 ingredients - including chromium picolinate, yeast, lysine, and selenium - illegal for over-the-counter sale. Other supplements that remain in stores will contain very low dosage amounts - not enough to provide any real therapeutic value. It's almost like they're passing a law against prevention. So not only are the pharmaceutical companies eliminating competition from natural products for treating illnesses, they are essentially forcing greater need for prescription products for citizens of the EU. After all, without prevention, where will people be forced to turn when they get even the slightest bit ill? To physicians who will prescribe mainstream pharmaceuticals or super-strength, prescription-only vitamins supplied by - guess who - the Pfizers, Mercks, and Bayers of the world. ----------------------------- Nothing strange about these bedfellows ----------------------------- To make things even worse, a number of European Union Commissioners have direct links to international pharmaceutical companies. For instance, a prominent EU Commissioner, Frits Bolkenstein of the Netherlands, is also a member of the supervisory board of the second largest pharmaceutical company in the world - Merck, Sharp and Dohme. The blatant pharmaceutical industry influence on this directive would be laughable if the consequences weren't so great. In a smooth double-speak that's almost frightening, the EU Directive states: "In order to ensure a high level of protection for consumers and facilitate their choice, the products that will be put on the market must be safe and bear adequate and appropriate labeling." The good news is that the "consumers" are not buying it. "Protection?" To "facilitate their choice?" More than 600 million people read that and shouted back a resounding, "No!" In what is believed to be the largest global online petition ever, a staggering 604 million people (to date) have added their names, demanding continued free access to natural remedies. ----------------------------- Lend your voice - no matter where you live ----------------------------- I have signed the petition and I encourage you to do so too if you believe the availability of natural supplements should not be controlled by the international pharmaceutical industry. Anyone can sign the petition - you don't have to be a citizen of a European Union nation to add your name - and you can find more information and read the petition at vitamins-for-all.org. This web site was created by Dr. Matthias Rath, a leading researcher in the field of natural treatments for cancer, and one of the most prominent campaigners against the EU Directive. And for those of you who think this is a European issue - that this couldn't happen here - consider this: the United States and the European Union are each other's largest trade and investment partners. In 2000, two-way trade in goods and services between the EU and the US totaled more than $557 billion. With economic ties this deep, any European law that gives the global pharmaceutical industry such sweeping power over the health choices of millions, will have global effects. Once they've conquered Europe, how long before they set their sights on the US marketplace? Just look at recent directives from the FDA; it's already happening. The EU Directive is not yet law. Our HSI associates in London believe that by the time the Directive is implemented in 2005 there's a chance that the most oppressive aspects of the legislation might be eliminated, especially if enough people raise their voices and mobilize against it. But you can be certain that the Commissioners of the European Parliament, with special interests and billions of dollars in the balance, will not back down without a prolonged fight. In the meantime, we'll be watching, and I'll keep you informed of developments as they unfold. And we encourage you to sign the petition demanding open, unrestricted access to natural medicine and supplements for ALL of us. To Your Good Health, Jenny Thompson Health Sciences Institute Sources: Health Confidential; May 2002, Vol 1, No 3 European Union "Directive on Dietary Supplements," healthchoice.org.uk European Union in the US: eurunion.org Petition 450/2001: vitamins-for-all.org Copyright ©1997-2002 by Institute of Health Sciences, L.L.C. -- _ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 Just a quick note to you all from IRELAND. Tomorrow we go to meet the proposed new regulatory body in Ireland, the Irish Medicines Board (a Government body). The purpose of the meeting is TO BE TOLD (!) how the EU draft legislation will effect the Legal Status ( & availability) of herbal, homoeopathic and supplement products in this country & Europe. As it stands the new legislation proposes to licence ANY "substance" which can be used to treat "any condition" in the very near future. I'll let you know how it goes. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 when you get to that site where do you go to vote? - Margaret LeMaitre Al & Betty Polz ; herbal remedies ; Jim & Marion ; Marjorie ; Roslyn Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:03 PM [herbal remedies] [Fwd: Alert - European Union Ban on Nutritional Supplements] Hi I just received this, & thought it worth passing it along. Please use it as you see fit. Margaret Elaine wrote: Hi, I received this message confirming legislative changes in Europe banning nutritional supplementation in high dosages and only allowing low potency formulas over the counter due to the proven health benefits optimal dosages provide. This does not look like something we want to idly sit by and watch happen. Do what you can by adding your vote at www.vitamins-for-all.org Health Sciences Institute e-Alert April 29, 2002 ************************************************************** Dear Reader, Imagine dropping by your favorite health food store to find it boarded up and out of business. So you go around to your local drug mart to pick up some vitamin C, but the only dosage on the shelf is ridiculously low. The druggist informs you that 60 mg is now the maximum dosage available without a prescription. So if you've been taking a mega dosage of vitamin C to help fight heart disease or build up your immunity against cancer, you'll have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that dosage - you're no longer free to decide on your own how much of this natural vitamin you want to take. Sounds like a nightmare? It gets worse. Imagine that all of this is the result of new legislation imposed by lawmakers with direct ties to pharmaceutical companies - powerful companies that will use the law to create an enormous new source of profits. Now that's a real nightmare. But what makes it truly nightmarish is that, incredibly, it will soon become a reality in the United Kingdom and most of Europe - if the global pharmaceutical industry has its way. ----------------------------- Outlawing prevention ----------------------------- On March 13th the European Parliament - a 626-member legislative body representing the 15 European Union countries - passed the "EU Directive on Dietary Supplements," which classifies vitamins as medical drugs rather than food supplements. The Directive grants a transition period of three years for vitamin supplements already on the market. But in 2005, every EU country will be required to implement the Directive. As it currently stands, in just three years a wide range of natural remedies will be banned across most of Europe, making as many as 300 ingredients - including chromium picolinate, yeast, lysine, and selenium - illegal for over-the-counter sale. Other supplements that remain in stores will contain very low dosage amounts - not enough to provide any real therapeutic value. It's almost like they're passing a law against prevention. So not only are the pharmaceutical companies eliminating competition from natural products for treating illnesses, they are essentially forcing greater need for prescription products for citizens of the EU. After all, without prevention, where will people be forced to turn when they get even the slightest bit ill? To physicians who will prescribe mainstream pharmaceuticals or super-strength, prescription-only vitamins supplied by - guess who - the Pfizers, Mercks, and Bayers of the world. ----------------------------- Nothing strange about these bedfellows ----------------------------- To make things even worse, a number of European Union Commissioners have direct links to international pharmaceutical companies. For instance, a prominent EU Commissioner, Frits Bolkenstein of the Netherlands, is also a member of the supervisory board of the second largest pharmaceutical company in the world - Merck, Sharp and Dohme. The blatant pharmaceutical industry influence on this directive would be laughable if the consequences weren't so great. In a smooth double-speak that's almost frightening, the EU Directive states: "In order to ensure a high level of protection for consumers and facilitate their choice, the products that will be put on the market must be safe and bear adequate and appropriate labeling." The good news is that the "consumers" are not buying it. "Protection?" To "facilitate their choice?" More than 600 million people read that and shouted back a resounding, "No!" In what is believed to be the largest global online petition ever, a staggering 604 million people (to date) have added their names, demanding continued free access to natural remedies. ----------------------------- Lend your voice - no matter where you live ----------------------------- I have signed the petition and I encourage you to do so too if you believe the availability of natural supplements should not be controlled by the international pharmaceutical industry. Anyone can sign the petition - you don't have to be a citizen of a European Union nation to add your name - and you can find more information and read the petition at vitamins-for-all.org. This web site was created by Dr. Matthias Rath, a leading researcher in the field of natural treatments for cancer, and one of the most prominent campaigners against the EU Directive. And for those of you who think this is a European issue - that this couldn't happen here - consider this: the United States and the European Union are each other's largest trade and investment partners. In 2000, two-way trade in goods and services between the EU and the US totaled more than $557 billion. With economic ties this deep, any European law that gives the global pharmaceutical industry such sweeping power over the health choices of millions, will have global effects. Once they've conquered Europe, how long before they set their sights on the US marketplace? Just look at recent directives from the FDA; it's already happening. The EU Directive is not yet law. Our HSI associates in London believe that by the time the Directive is implemented in 2005 there's a chance that the most oppressive aspects of the legislation might be eliminated, especially if enough people raise their voices and mobilize against it. But you can be certain that the Commissioners of the European Parliament, with special interests and billions of dollars in the balance, will not back down without a prolonged fight. In the meantime, we'll be watching, and I'll keep you informed of developments as they unfold. And we encourage you to sign the petition demanding open, unrestricted access to natural medicine and supplements for ALL of us. To Your Good Health, Jenny Thompson Health Sciences Institute Sources: Health Confidential; May 2002, Vol 1, No 3 European Union "Directive on Dietary Supplements," healthchoice.org.uk European Union in the US: eurunion.org Petition 450/2001: vitamins-for-all.org Copyright ©1997-2002 by Institute of Health Sciences, L.L.C. -- _ Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Share Posted May 1, 2002 ::shudder!:: So my parents' generation grew pot in the basement because they were afraid of the feds; but *my* generation will grow lemon balm and dandelions...for the same reason! Everybody, please join me now in the sacred tribal " may the World Bank sink into Hell " dance. Aya aya aya aya...! ST On Wed, 1 May 2002 10:29:32 +0100 " Zota Herbal Clinic " wrote: > Just a quick note to you all from IRELAND. Tomorrow we go to meet > the proposed new regulatory body in Ireland, the Irish Medicines > Board (a Government body). The purpose of the meeting is TO BE TOLD > (!) how the EU draft legislation will effect the Legal Status ( & > availability) of herbal, homoeopathic and supplement products in this > country & Europe. > > As it stands the new legislation proposes to licence ANY " substance " > which can be used to treat " any condition " in the very near future. > > I'll let you know how it goes. > > Ian When you have nothing better to do, visit Bored.com at http://www.bored.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Share Posted May 2, 2002 At the top where it says Let me vote Suzi Patie Asturi <patie wrote: when you get to that site where do you go to vote? - Margaret LeMaitre Al & Betty Polz ; herbal remedies ; Jim & Marion ; Marjorie ; Roslyn Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:03 PM [herbal remedies] [Fwd: Alert - European Union Ban on Nutritional Supplements] Hi I just received this, & thought it worth passing it along. Please use it as you see fit. Margaret Elaine wrote: Hi, I received this message confirming legislative changes in Europe banning nutritional supplementation in high dosages and only allowing low potency formulas over the counter due to the proven health benefits optimal dosages provide. This does not look like something we want to idly sit by and watch happen. Do what you can by adding your vote at www.vitamins-for-all.org Health Sciences Institute e-Alert April 29, 2002 ************************************************************** Dear Reader, Imagine dropping by your favorite health food store to find it boarded up and out of business. So you go around to your local drug mart to pick up some vitamin C, but the only dosage on the shelf is ridiculously low. The druggist informs you that 60 mg is now the maximum dosage available without a prescription. So if you've been taking a mega dosage of vitamin C to help fight heart disease or build up your immunity against cancer, you'll have to find a doctor willing to prescribe that dosage - you're no longer free to decide on your own how much of this natural vitamin you want to take. Sounds like a nightmare? It gets worse. Imagine that all of this is the result of new legislation imposed by lawmakers with direct ties to pharmaceutical companies - powerful companies that will use the law to create an enormous new source of profits. Now that's a real nightmare. But what makes it truly nightmarish is that, incredibly, it will soon become a reality in the United Kingdom and most of Europe - if the global pharmaceutical industry has its way. ----------------------------- Outlawing prevention ----------------------------- On March 13th the European Parliament - a 626-member legislative body representing the 15 European Union countries - passed the "EU Directive on Dietary Supplements," which classifies vitamins as medical drugs rather than food supplements. The Directive grants a transition period of three years for vitamin supplements already on the market. But in 2005, every EU country will be required to implement the Directive. As it currently stands, in just three years a wide range of natural remedies will be banned across most of Europe, making as many as 300 ingredients - including chromium picolinate, yeast, lysine, and selenium - illegal for over-the-counter sale. Other supplements that remain in stores will contain very low dosage amounts - not enough to provide any real therapeutic value. It's almost like they're passing a law against prevention. So not only are the pharmaceutical companies eliminating competition from natural products for treating illnesses, they are essentially forcing greater need for prescription products for citizens of the EU. After all, without prevention, where will people be forced to turn when they get even the slightest bit ill? To physicians who will prescribe mainstream pharmaceuticals or super-strength, prescription-only vitamins supplied by - guess who - the Pfizers, Mercks, and Bayers of the world. ----------------------------- Nothing strange about these bedfellows ----------------------------- To make things even worse, a number of European Union Commissioners have direct links to international pharmaceutical companies. For instance, a prominent EU Commissioner, Frits Bolkenstein of the Netherlands, is also a member of the supervisory board of the second largest pharmaceutical company in the world - Merck, Sharp and Dohme. The blatant pharmaceutical industry influence on this directive would be laughable if the consequences weren't so great. In a smooth double-speak that's almost frightening, the EU Directive states: "In order to ensure a high level of protection for consumers and facilitate their choice, the products that will be put on the market must be safe and bear adequate and appropriate labeling." The good news is that the "consumers" are not buying it. "Protection?" To "facilitate their choice?" More than 600 million people read that and shouted back a resounding, "No!" In what is believed to be the largest global online petition ever, a staggering 604 million people (to date) have added their names, demanding continued free access to natural remedies. ----------------------------- Lend your voice - no matter where you live ----------------------------- I have signed the petition and I encourage you to do so too if you believe the availability of natural supplements should not be controlled by the international pharmaceutical industry. Anyone can sign the petition - you don't have to be a citizen of a European Union nation to add your name - and you can find more information and read the petition at vitamins-for-all.org. This web site was created by Dr. Matthias Rath, a leading researcher in the field of natural treatments for cancer, and one of the most prominent campaigners against the EU Directive. And for those of you who think this is a European issue - that this couldn't happen here - consider this: the United States and the European Union are each other's largest trade and investment partners. In 2000, two-way trade in goods and services between the EU and the US totaled more than $557 billion. With economic ties this deep, any European law that gives the global pharmaceutical industry such sweeping power over the health choices of millions, will have global effects. Once they've conquered Europe, how long before they set their sights on the US marketplace? Just look at recent directives from the FDA; it's already happening. The EU Directive is not yet law. Our HSI associates in London believe that by the time the Directive is implemented in 2005 there's a chance that the most oppressive aspects of the legislation might be eliminated, especially if enough people raise their voices and mobilize against it. But you can be certain that the Commissioners of the European Parliament, with special interests and billions of dollars in the balance, will not back down without a prolonged fight. In the meantime, we'll be watching, and I'll keep you informed of developments as they unfold. And we encourage you to sign the petition demanding open, unrestricted access to natural medicine and supplements for ALL of us. To Your Good Health, Jenny Thompson Health Sciences Institute Sources: Health Confidential; May 2002, Vol 1, No 3 European Union "Directive on Dietary Supplements," healthchoice.org.uk European Union in the US: eurunion.org Petition 450/2001: vitamins-for-all.org Copyright ©1997-2002 by Institute of Health Sciences, L.L.C. -- _ Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 At 7:37 PM +0000 5/2/02, iris054 wrote: > herbal remedies, " Zota Herbal Clinic " <zota@i...> wrote: > > As it stands the new legislation proposes to licence > ANY " substance " which can be used to treat " any condition " in the > very near future. > > EEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! How dare they?!! > > > I'll let you know how it goes. > > Please do! I know if they get away with that over there, then > they'll try it here next, and I shudder to think of it. Given what the EU just did with vitamin supplements requiring a doctor prescription is more frightening Soon you will need a prescrpition to buy food! " Sorry mam those tomatoes are a class one contolled substance. Hand cuff her and take her away. " Make 1984 look idilic. Zip The Dragonmaster Heaven on Earth dragonmasterzip He who rules truly serves and she who serves truly rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2002 Report Share Posted May 3, 2002 At 7:44 PM +0000 5/2/02, iris054 wrote: > herbal remedies, " Patie Asturi " <patie@v...> wrote: > > when you get to that site where do you go to vote? Go to http://www.lef.org They have lots of info, recommendations. These people take on the FDA all the time and WIN!! Zip The Dragonmaster Heaven on Earth dragonmasterzip He who rules truly serves and she who serves truly rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 The very few times i've tried voting on web petitions, i have always ended up with trouble of some kind. Sometimes i've used dummy addresses when doing these, so i can see exactly what spam comes from a particular source. Many online petitions are simply ways for spammers to gather addresses. So if you don't participate, you're actually helping because you're not encouraging them. These days it is almost impossible to tell which petition sites are legitimate. Then, after you've gone through all that trouble, even if the site is ok and honest, it has been found that politicians rarely, if ever, look at these things. Therefore, for many reasons, online petitions are a waste of time and will likely never be any influence on events. It is better to write paper letters. Those have a tremendous impact, whether faxed or mailed. And the best thing of all, is to get to know politicians personally. That's how you get the most leverage. Working on someone's campaign can get you all kinds of access, and doesn't take all that much time. The better politicians, like former Colorado governor Roy Romer, actually will invite campaign workers to various functions where we can get to talk directly with many high and low officials. This has the most impact of all. At 07:44 PM 5/2/02 -0000, you wrote: >herbal remedies, " Patie Asturi " <patie@v...> wrote: >> when you get to that site where do you go to vote? > >Good question! I clicked on the blue circle and tried to follow any >path that would lead to being able to vote, but it kept saying the >page wasn't available. Maybe we're too late? Or maybe there was >such heavy participation that the system couldn't hold up under the >barrage? Or maybe it's just temporarily down? > >Melinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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