Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 I'm new to this group. My husband has chronic bronchitis that comes back a couple times a year. A few years ago he was led to believe that antibiotics would help; but they didn't. Most of the natural remedies he has tried hasn't worked either. Any ideas that would help him would be greatly appreciatrd. Also my girls have colds--what do you suggest. Thank you for your help.--Glenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 This is a sujestion. My girls were getting a cold the other day scratchy throat and all I told them to go take there Super tonic every 2 hours and next day they had no sighns of the cold at all. I belive it would work for your family. Also your husband could have a food allergie. Peg Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Hi Peg Could you please tell me what a Super tonic consist of ? I am just getting over bronchitis and took Zithamax, and antibiotic and the medi center MD also gave me a syp with codeine to suppress the cough at night because it felt irritated enough to keep me up clearing my throat at its onset- now I can sleep but wonder if additional help could be on hand incase it still lingers on after the antibiotic is finished which is today. Thanks for any help anyone can provide Rita - " P.M. " <bogduck <herbal remedies > Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:19 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Bronchitis/colds > This is a sujestion. My girls were getting a cold the > other day scratchy throat and all I told them to go > take there Super tonic every 2 hours and next day they > had no sighns of the cold at all. I belive it would > work for your family. Also your husband could have a > food allergie. > Peg > > > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes./ > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Super Tonic Formula 1 Handful of Garlic Cloves 1 Handful of chopped Onions 1 Handful of chopped Ginger 1 Handful of chopped Horseradish 1/2 handful of chopped Habanero Peppers. This is all a blender will chop at one time so to geta greater amount repeat 2 or three times to fill a larger jar. Also a food proceser will chop the ingrediants. Throw in a blender and cover with an inch or two of Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. All ingredients should be ORGANIC, but don't let that stop you from making this great formula. You can use the mash right away or wait two weeks and tincture. Place 2 teaspoons in a glass of water and drink it down. If you have to go to work and don,t want to smell like a garlic leave it out it still works but is better with the garlic. It is best to start your tintures on the new moon and to strain them on the full moon it makes a more potent medicine. Peg Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Rita, Zithromax doesn't work.... I had what you had - everything I tried wasn't really working... called the MD as a last resort....haha....he didn't work either. I understand that lots of people are getting this infection... it takes about a month...or so. Boost your immune system (echineachea) and take lots of garlic and total tonic (in the files) I had to take some cough syrup at nite because of the cough. You have to break up the congestion....drink lots of water. I'm finally almost over it... of course, now we're coming in to allergy season...LOL.. anyway you're not alone... Perserverance. Suzi "Curly.Cue" <curly.cue wrote: Hi PegCould you please tell me what a Super tonic consist of ? I am just gettingover bronchitis and took Zithamax, and antibiotic and the medi center MDalso gave me a syp with codeine to suppress the cough at night because itfelt irritated enough to keep me up clearing my throat at its onset- now Ican sleep but wonder if additional help could be on hand incase it stilllingers on after the antibiotic is finished which is today.Thanks for any help anyone can provideRita-"P.M." Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:19 AMRe: [herbal remedies] Bronchitis/colds> This is a sujestion. My girls were getting a cold the> other day scratchy throat and all I told them to go> take there Super tonic every 2 hours and next day they> had no sighns of the cold at all. I belive it would> work for your family. Also your husband could have a> food allergie.> Peg>> > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax> http://taxes./>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any naturalremedy.> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician andto> prescribe for your own health.> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as longas> they behave themselves.> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and anyperson> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products fromlist members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner andmembers free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Thanks Peg This sounds like some pretty powerful stuff !enough to make your eyes water let alone rush through the sinuses! I will start tomorro with my own Super tonic wonder if bottled horse radish is just as potent? otherwise I have a huge beautiful fragrant horsey plant in my garden strip thanks again Rita* - " P.M. " <bogduck <herbal remedies > Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:38 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Bronchitis/colds > Super Tonic Formula > > 1 Handful of Garlic Cloves > 1 Handful of chopped Onions > 1 Handful of chopped Ginger > 1 Handful of chopped Horseradish > 1/2 handful of chopped Habanero Peppers. > > This is all a blender will chop at one time so to geta > greater amount repeat 2 or three times to fill a > larger jar. Also a food proceser will chop the > ingrediants. > > Throw in a blender and cover with an inch or two of > Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. > > All ingredients should be ORGANIC, but don't let that > stop you from making this great formula. You can use > the mash right away or wait two weeks and tincture. > Place 2 teaspoons in a glass of water and drink it > down. > If you have to go to work and don,t want to smell like > a garlic leave it out it still works but is better > with the garlic. > > It is best to start your tintures on the new moon and > to strain them on the full moon it makes a more potent > > medicine. > Peg > > > > > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes./ > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 The name " Super Tonic " seems to insinuate that this might work for more than just coughs and colds (as do the ingredients)...Does anybody know what all this is good for? Thanks, ST On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 19:55:15 -0400 " Curly.Cue " wrote: > Thanks Peg > > This sounds like some pretty powerful stuff !enough to make your eyes > water > let alone rush through the sinuses! I will start tomorro with my own Super > tonic wonder if bottled horse radish is just as potent? otherwise I have a > huge beautiful fragrant horsey plant in my garden strip thanks again > > Rita* > > - > " P.M. " <bogduck > <herbal remedies > > Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:38 PM > Re: [herbal remedies] Bronchitis/colds > > > > Super Tonic Formula > > > > 1 Handful of Garlic Cloves > > 1 Handful of chopped Onions > > 1 Handful of chopped Ginger > > 1 Handful of chopped Horseradish > > 1/2 handful of chopped Habanero Peppers. > > > > This is all a blender will chop at one time so to geta > > greater amount repeat 2 or three times to fill a > > larger jar. Also a food proceser will chop the > > ingrediants. > > > > Throw in a blender and cover with an inch or two of > > Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. > > > > All ingredients should be ORGANIC, but don't let that > > stop you from making this great formula. You can use > > the mash right away or wait two weeks and tincture. > > Place 2 teaspoons in a glass of water and drink it > > down. > > If you have to go to work and don,t want to smell like > > a garlic leave it out it still works but is better > > with the garlic. > > > > It is best to start your tintures on the new moon and > > to strain them on the full moon it makes a more potent > > > > medicine. > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > > http://taxes./ > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own > physician and > to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products from > list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Well I just got one of my super sinnus colds and was in great pain and said to my self this is crap why suffer. I had never tryed this befor and I told that person to use it for broncitus so I tryed it every 2 hours wow the pain was gone with in minutes of taking it. But came back if I was not back in 2 hours. This morning I was better I could still feel I had the cold but not the great pain so now I will only take it 3 times a day for the next week. Peg The name " Super Tonic " seems to insinuate that this might work for more than just coughs and colds (as do the ingredients)...Does anybody know what all this is good fo Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 I got this on horseradish from anouther list I am on. I will try to find other info later. From PFAF http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Armoracia+rusticana Excuse the formating....too lazy to clean it up Dena ********************************************* Edible Uses Condiment; Leaves; Root; Seed. Young root - raw or cooked. The grated root is used to make the condiment 'Horseradish sauce'[2, 9, 13, 14, 27, 33, 34, 52], this has a hot mustard-like flavour[100]. The sauce is best used uncooked or gently warmed, heating it will destroy the volatile oils that are responsible for its pungency[238]. It is said that in Germany the roots are sliced and cooked like parsnips[183] - rather them than me![K]. The root is a rich source of sulpher[201]. The roots are fully hardy and can be left in the ground all winter to be harvested as required[4]. Alternatively, they can be harvested in early winter and stored for later use, they will retain their juicy state for some time if stored in dry sand[4]. Young leaves - raw or cooked[2, 9, 14, 177]. A very strong flavour, though nice when added in small quantities to the salad bowl[183, K]. A pleasant mild flavour according to another report[238]. Seeds - sprouted and eaten in salads[183]. ****************************************************** Medicinal Uses Antibacterial; Antiseptic; Aperient; Digestive; Diuretic; Expectorant; Rubefacient; Stimulant. Horseradish is a very pungent stimulant herb that controls bacterial infections and can be used both internally and externally[238]. The plant is a powerful stimulant, whether used internally as a spur for the digestive system or externally as a rubefacient[4]. It should not be used internally by people with stomach ulcers or thyroid problems[238]. The roots are antiseptic, aperient, digestive, diuretic, expectorant, rubefacient and stimulant. They should be used in their fresh state[4]. An infusion is used in the treatment of colds, fevers and flu and is of value in the treatment of respiratory and urinary tract infections. A sandwich of the freshly grated root is a traditional remedy for hay fever[254]. A tea made from the root is weakly diuretic, antiseptic and expectorant[222]. The plant is antibiotic against gram-negative and gram-positive bacteria and also pathogenic fungi[222, 240]. It is experimentally antitumor[222]. Externally, a poultice made from the roots is used to treat pleurisy, arthritis and infected wounds[238]. It will also relieve the pain of chillblains[244]. Some caution should be employed, however, because it can cause blistering[254]. Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Dear Sara, The difference between Schulze's "Super Tonic" and my "Total Tonic" is that I use half as much Cayenne as he does and I add a pinch of Celtic Sea Salt to the recipe for mineral content. One of my "other" names for the product is "Nature's Antibiotic". It is anti-viral, anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal and is a general "all-around" tonic. Because of the natural sulfur content in it, this makes it great for any skin condition as well. Besides, it also tastes great on salads or in its mash form, excellent to use with roast beef instead of plain horseradish. ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - tv_is_a_drug herbal remedies Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:00 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Bronchitis/colds The name "Super Tonic" seems to insinuate that this might work for more than just coughs and colds (as do the ingredients)...Does anybody know what all this is good for? Thanks,ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2002 Report Share Posted April 28, 2002 When bronchitis is that unresponsive to medication and herbal medicine, the cause has got to be environmental. If nobody else in the family is affected, then his workplace has to be suspected. However, you mention children getting colds. Are these frequent, or just happening at the moment? If they are frequent, then the home needs to be checked. This is a classic example of a case where an environmental assessment needs to be done yesterday, if not sooner. At 07:02 AM 4/14/02 -0000, you wrote: > I'm new to this group. My husband has chronic bronchitis that comes >back a couple times a year. A few years ago he was led to believe >that antibiotics would help; but they didn't. Most of the natural >remedies he has tried hasn't worked either. Any ideas that would help >him would be greatly appreciatrd. Also my girls have colds--what do >you suggest. Thank you for your help.--Glenda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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