Random gut pains

April 5, 2002

Hey you guys! Thanks again for all your sympathy/support re: my brother.

He's doing about the same. Prayers are what I got to offer him, so

prayers are what I'm doin'. (I thought about bringing him tea, but he's

really paranoid about people trying to feed him things, so I think

perhaps I won't.) He needs to get past this himself, and your support

was largely for me, even though I didn't think I needed it...but I did,

so thanks. A lot.

Now I can ask the question that I actually signed up to these groups for.

*lol* My bro got ill the day after I d to these groups, and

then I felt that his situation was so much worse than mine that I had no

" right " to ask my question. But here it is, and thanks in advance for

reading it. I'll try not to write ya'll a novel.

I'm 24, and 8 months ago an ovarian cyst I didn't know I had ruptured,

sending me to the ER for surgery. The word " emergency " notwithstanding,

I waited for 6 hours before they got me in, and then learned later that I

had lost more than 3 pints of blood internally, narrowly avoiding a

transfusion (my hemoglobin was really high to begin with, so I got

lucky). They removed the ovary and the one tube. Turned out I had been

3 weeks pregnant (didn't know) with my first, which I lost of course due

to surgery.

Anyway, normally I have a good immune system; I heal fast and don't get

sick very often; but recovering from that operation has been a bear.

I've been back to the gyno a billion times (okay...six) since my postop

appt, because I keep having pain in and around the incision site, in my

lower abdomen and also the crooks of my inner thighs, and it's driving me

crazy. The gynocologist agreed that I shouldn't still be feeling pain,

so he gave me (guess what?) antibiotics, and when those didn't work he

told me I probably had lots and lots of scar-tissue due to all the

internal bleeding, which was interfering with my guts. He made it sound

like there's nothing that can be done, and told me some women who've had

operations like mine live with these pains their whole lives.

Something tells me that just because throwing an antibiotic at it doesn't

work, that does not mean that you are dealing with an incurable

condition. Also, I'm very concerned with my reproductive condition; my

husband and I want children at some point, and I don't like the idea that

I haven't healed properly from my operation, and that my system is

probably not in balance at the moment. Part of the reason I believe this

is that, when I got pregnant before, it was the *very first time* we

skipped out on the prophylactic; but in the months since I've been

healed, nothing. I don't want to push it of course and I'm perfectly

willing to wait, but I take my lack of pregnancy as another sign that

things are still a little...off.

All other female stuff seems to be operating normally; my gut is just

swollen-feeling and tender still, and I have these stabbing pains with no

particular point of origin in my womb area. Anything you guys know of

that can balance a disrupted female system and/or help heal internal

scarring (I'm assuming for the moment that the gyno is right about that,

but of course I have no way to really know) would be phenomenally

wonderful. I've been so worried about this, and I'm glad as heckfire I

found you guys, because there aren't really any NPs or herbalists where I

live, and it was killing me to think something might be wrong...I'm not a

believer in allopathic docs and their antibiotics anyway, but my piddly

herbal skills are no match for something like this, and feeling like you

have nowhere to go but to the docs you don't trust is really scary.

Anyway. I realize more information (about my diet etc.) might be handy

to some of you skilled enough to attempt a hardcore diagnosis, and I'd be

happy to provide it, but I've already broken my promise not to write a

novel so I'll end this here. Feel free to email me privately of course.

Bit fat huge tearful thanks for reading(!),

Sara Thustra

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April 5, 2002

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Friday, April 05, 2002 9:15 AM

[herbal remedies] Random gut pains

Hey you guys! Thanks again for all your sympathy/support re: my brother. He's doing about the same. Prayers are what I got to offer him, soprayers are what I'm doin'. (I thought about bringing him tea, but he'sreally paranoid about people trying to feed him things, so I thinkperhaps I won't.) He needs to get past this himself, and your supportwas largely for me, even though I didn't think I needed it...but I did,so thanks. A lot.Now I can ask the question that I actually signed up to these groups for. *lol* My bro got ill the day after I d to these groups, andthen I felt that his situation was so much worse than mine that I had no"right" to ask my question. But here it is, and thanks in advance forreading it. I'll try not to write ya'll a novel.I'm 24, and 8 months ago an ovarian cyst I didn't know I had ruptured,sending me to the ER for surgery. The word "emergency" notwithstanding,I waited for 6 hours before they got me in, and then learned later that I had lost more than 3 pints of blood internally, narrowly avoiding atransfusion (my hemoglobin was really high to begin with, so I gotlucky). They removed the ovary and the one tube. Turned out I had been3 weeks pregnant (didn't know) with my first, which I lost of course dueto surgery. Anyway, normally I have a good immune system; I heal fast and don't getsick very often; but recovering from that operation has been a bear.I've been back to the gyno a billion times (okay...six) since my postopappt, because I keep having pain in and around the incision site, in mylower abdomen and also the crooks of my inner thighs, and it's driving me crazy. The gynocologist agreed that I shouldn't still be feeling pain,so he gave me (guess what?) antibiotics, and when those didn't work hetold me I probably had lots and lots of scar-tissue due to all theinternal bleeding, which was interfering with my guts. He made it soundlike there's nothing that can be done, and told me some women who've hadoperations like mine live with these pains their whole lives.Something tells me that just because throwing an antibiotic at it doesn't work, that does not mean that you are dealing with an incurablecondition. Also, I'm very concerned with my reproductive condition; myhusband and I want children at some point, and I don't like the idea that I haven't healed properly from my operation, and that my system isprobably not in balance at the moment. Part of the reason I believe this is that, when I got pregnant before, it was the *very first time* weskipped out on the prophylactic; but in the months since I've beenhealed, nothing. I don't want to push it of course and I'm perfectlywilling to wait, but I take my lack of pregnancy as another sign thatthings are still a little...off.All other female stuff seems to be operating normally; my gut is justswollen-feeling and tender still, and I have these stabbing pains with no particular point of origin in my womb area. Anything you guys know ofthat can balance a disrupted female system and/or help heal internalscarring (I'm assuming for the moment that the gyno is right about that,but of course I have no way to really know) would be phenomenallywonderful. I've been so worried about this, and I'm glad as heckfire Ifound you guys, because there aren't really any NPs or herbalists where I live, and it was killing me to think something might be wrong...I'm not a believer in allopathic docs and their antibiotics anyway, but my piddlyherbal skills are no match for something like this, and feeling like youhave nowhere to go but to the docs you don't trust is really scary.Anyway. I realize more information (about my diet etc.) might be handyto some of you skilled enough to attempt a hardcore diagnosis, and I'd be happy to provide it, but I've already broken my promise not to write anovel so I'll end this here. Feel free to email me privately of course. Bit fat huge tearful thanks for reading(!), Sara