Wound Healer

[Guest guest]

Sorry tom, your wrong

 

At 06:49 PM 2/22/02 +1100, you wrote:

Propolis

is another Bee product that is said to have good antibacterial and

healing Properties.and it may even be chris's secret

 

Tom

 

- jocelyne

hemming Herbal

remedies Friday, February 22, 2002 6:06 PM

[herbal remedies] Wound Healer

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I found your comments about wanting to hold on to your

" secret " offensive.

 

Here is a wonderful list with people sharing all sorts of

" secrets " for the

good of others.

 

I think knowledge if for sharing. It does not belong to you or I. It

would

have been better not to say anything at all.

 

Why do you belong to this list, is it to take and then hold on to

what you

know. Though it is your right, is the point of it?

 

 

 

I take this opportunity to thank all the good people who give

generously,

and hope that when I can I too can contribute.

 

Jocelyne

 

 

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

and to

prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have given plenty and given plenty of this herbal treatment away,

unfortunately, I also lost a job upon becoming disabled and an arsonist

burned my home and I have lost everything I own. This is to be my

business to put a roof over my head. The salve may be purchased

through presentmoments.com a vendor.

 

At 07:54 AM 2/22/02 +0000, you wrote:

Dear

Doc,

 

I do so agree with your statements on sharing

knowledge and how if you are free with your energy, time, knowledge the

money just comes in anyway. This is great wisdom.

 

It makes me think of the human genome project

where the people who were going to put it in the public domain managed to

finish it before the big business scientists who would have locked up

that knowledge and the key would have been lots of money.

Apparently the public knowledge scientists were offered vast sums to go

over to big business which they turned down. Amazing that there are

still people for whom knowledge and public good wins over

greed.

 

I very much like what you say in many ways, and

especially that there are no diseases that are not open to the person

curing themselves.

 

Regards,

 

Sue

 

P.S. I would like to do a formal

qualification to become a herbalist/healer. Do you have any

recommendations? I live in the U.K. but could study by

correspondence I suppose. Thank you.

 

S

 

 

-

Ian

Shillington N.D.

To:

herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 6:05 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

 

You know Chris, I just kinda can't let your post go by without a comment.

 

Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever " secrets " you may have gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if they don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the concept of having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that data when it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right to do so, but I don't believe it is right to do so.

 

I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no monopoly on knowledge.

 

At this time the giant Pharmaceuticals and the Medicos are trying to squeeze the Naturopaths and the Natural Healers out of the picture. In actuality, they are in mortal fear of us, because we get results, where they only fail and actually help to make people worse. There may come a time in the near future when what you and I do becomes illegal and the actual promoting of our " technologies " becomes against the law. What good will your secret be then??? Heavens, you won't even be able to make it yourself and then sell it. Could this be what you are truly interested in??? SALES???

 

I know, as I'm sure you do, that " Mystery " will sell when all else fails to. " Hey guys, I have this new " Secret " miracle cure which will handle whatever ails you " , is a pitch that will pull in many a sucker. It seems that human nature loves a mystery.

 

Wellllllllllllll, may be I'm being unfair here. Could be.

 

But I'll tell you this. As a doctor and a researcher, I've discovered techniques (invented and created), that when applied by the individual to himself can bring about a healing in just about every adverse condition there is. So far as I have been able to determine, there is not one disease in which an individual can not cure himself. Not one. Some people are incurable, but I don't know of a single disease which is.

 

Now some day the FDA, or the AMA, or the " Justice " department, may decide to close me down, but as long as my research and hard won knowledge is broadly known by hundreds or even thousands, then the Medicos and the Pharmaceuticals can never beat me regardless of their connections and overt actions taken against me. My hard won " secrets " will be well known by many, and the suppressive elements in society will have failed, not me. Do you see???

 

I've known a few shamans in my time, and they were very generous with their knowledge.

 

But now I'd like to tell you a secret. For years and years, I've been a communicating fool who has witheld absolutely nothing. All my formulae are in the files free for the taking (they have also been stored on a server where only I and a few relatives know where they are as well). Anyone and everyone have always been free to call me and ask me how do you do this, or how do you do that, and I've always been free with the data. I've always encouraged others to make their own products, grow their own herbs, and to spread the word on how to do it all. And you know what??? I've never lacked for money. Never. When you love people and you share your knowledge and you " GIVE " without any thought of recompense, the damned stuff just comes rolling in. You couldn't stop it if you tried to. Hell of thing isn't it. You just can't stop it.

 

Like I said earlier, may be I'm being unfair here, and you're not $$$ money motivated at all. May be I have it all wrong and your " rare " (is this expensive?) byproduct is very valuable and useful.

 

But you know, I'd hate to see such a valuable piece of the puzzle die with you or get squashed out of existence by an uncaring government under the thumb of the giant pharmaceuticals.

 

What a waste.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

-

Chris Busby

herbal remedies

Monday, February 11, 2002 8:03 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

 

Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe.

 

At 12:21 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote:

 

Chris,

 

Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures.

 

Suzi

 

Chris Busby <chrisb wrote:

I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone.

 

At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote:

 

 

Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a " body suit " that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the " clown " collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly?

 

It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH.

 

Suzi

 

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy.

3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to

prescribe for your own health.

We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as

they behave themselves.

Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person

following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to

be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability.

 

Dr. Ian Shillington

Doctor of Naturopathy

Dr.IanShillington

 

 

[Guest guest]

Doc: I find that in my training from a Native American Medicine

woman and the privilege of learning several of the oldest remedies and

herb to use, and agreements made in this learning process should be

respected. What ever kind of doc that you are, I wish you would

respect me and my teachings also.

 

 

At 11:05 PM 2/21/02 -0700, you wrote:

You know Chris, I just kinda can't

let your post go by without a comment.

 

Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever " secrets " you

may have gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if

they don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the

concept of having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that

data when it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right

to do so, but I don't believe it is right to do so.

 

I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no

monopoly on knowledge.

 

At this time the giant Pharmaceuticals and the Medicos are trying to

squeeze the Naturopaths and the Natural Healers out of the picture.

In actuality, they are in mortal fear of us, because we get results,

where they only fail and actually help to make people worse. There

may come a time in the near future when what you and I do becomes illegal

and the actual promoting of our " technologies " becomes against

the law. What good will your secret be then??? Heavens, you

won't even be able to make it yourself and then sell it. Could this

be what you are truly interested in??? SALES???

 

I know, as I'm sure you do, that " Mystery " will sell when all

else fails to. " Hey guys, I have this new " Secret "

miracle cure which will handle whatever ails you " , is a pitch that

will pull in many a sucker. It seems that human nature loves a

mystery.

 

Wellllllllllllll, may be I'm being unfair here. Could be.

 

But I'll tell you this. As a doctor and a researcher, I've

discovered techniques (invented and created), that when applied by the

individual to himself can bring about a healing in just about every

adverse condition there is. So far as I have been able to

determine, there is not one disease in which an individual can not cure

himself. Not one. Some people are incurable, but I don't know

of a single disease which is.

 

Now some day the FDA, or the AMA, or the " Justice " department,

may decide to close me down, but as long as my research and hard won

knowledge is broadly known by hundreds or even thousands, then the

Medicos and the Pharmaceuticals can never beat me regardless of their

connections and overt actions taken against me. My hard won

" secrets " will be well known by many, and the suppressive

elements in society will have failed, not me. Do you see???

 

I've known a few shamans in my time, and they were very generous with

their knowledge.

 

But now I'd like to tell you a secret. For years and years, I've

been a communicating fool who has witheld absolutely nothing. All

my formulae are in the files free for the taking (they have also been

stored on a server where only I and a few relatives know where they are

as well). Anyone and everyone have always been free to call me and

ask me how do you do this, or how do you do that, and I've always been

free with the data. I've always encouraged others to make their own

products, grow their own herbs, and to spread the word on how to do it

all. And you know what??? I've never lacked for money.

Never. When you love people and you share your knowledge and you

" GIVE " without any thought of recompense, the damned stuff just

comes rolling in. You couldn't stop it if you tried to. Hell

of thing isn't it. You just can't stop it.

 

Like I said earlier, may be I'm being unfair here, and you're not $$$

money motivated at all. May be I have it all wrong and your

" rare " (is this expensive?) byproduct is very valuable and

useful.

 

But you know, I'd hate to see such a valuable piece of the puzzle die

with you or get squashed out of existence by an uncaring government under

the thumb of the giant pharmaceuticals.

 

What a waste.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

505-772-5889

Dr.IanShillington

 

- Chris Busby To:

herbal remedies Monday, February 11, 2002 8:03 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

 

Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe.

 

At 12:21 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote:

 

 

Chris,

 

Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures.

 

Suzi

 

Chris Busby <chrisb wrote: I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone.

 

At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote:

 

 

Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a " body suit " that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the " clown " collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly?

 

It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH.

 

Suzi

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

 

I found your comments about wanting to hold on to your " secret " offensive.

 

Here is a wonderful list with people sharing all sorts of " secrets " for the

good of others.

 

I think knowledge if for sharing. It does not belong to you or I. It would

have been better not to say anything at all.

 

Why do you belong to this list, is it to take and then hold on to what you

know. Though it is your right, is the point of it?

 

 

I take this opportunity to thank all the good people who give generously,

and hope that when I can I too can contribute.

 

Jocelyne

[Guest guest]

I used to work with someone like this who would share nothing with you for the fear that one day you may know more than he.in that instance it was a classic case of job insecurity.I have a secret of my own and thats to squeeze the oil out of a vitamin E Capsule onto the wound. i have done it to burns as well as stiched area's and it works great.If you choose to share this knowledge with others that is totaly up to you.

 

Tom

 

-

jocelyne hemming

Herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 6:06 PM

[herbal remedies] Wound Healer

Hi Chris,I found your comments about wanting to hold on to your "secret" offensive.Here is a wonderful list with people sharing all sorts of "secrets" for thegood of others.I think knowledge if for sharing. It does not belong to you or I. It wouldhave been better not to say anything at all.Why do you belong to this list, is it to take and then hold on to what youknow. Though it is your right, is the point of it?I take this opportunity to thank all the good people who give generously,and hope that when I can I too can contribute.JocelyneFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Propolis is another Bee product that is said to have good antibacterial and healing Properties.and it may even be chris's secret

 

Tom

 

-

jocelyne hemming

Herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 6:06 PM

[herbal remedies] Wound Healer

Hi Chris,I found your comments about wanting to hold on to your "secret" offensive.Here is a wonderful list with people sharing all sorts of "secrets" for thegood of others.I think knowledge if for sharing. It does not belong to you or I. It wouldhave been better not to say anything at all.Why do you belong to this list, is it to take and then hold on to what youknow. Though it is your right, is the point of it?I take this opportunity to thank all the good people who give generously,and hope that when I can I too can contribute.JocelyneFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Dear Doc,

 

I do so agree with your statements on sharing knowledge and how if you are free with your energy, time, knowledge the money just comes in anyway. This is great wisdom.

 

It makes me think of the human genome project where the people who were going to put it in the public domain managed to finish it before the big business scientists who would have locked up that knowledge and the key would have been lots of money. Apparently the public knowledge scientists were offered vast sums to go over to big business which they turned down. Amazing that there are still people for whom knowledge and public good wins over greed.

 

I very much like what you say in many ways, and especially that there are no diseases that are not open to the person curing themselves.

 

Regards,

 

Sue

 

P.S. I would like to do a formal qualification to become a herbalist/healer. Do you have any recommendations? I live in the U.K. but could study by correspondence I suppose. Thank you.

 

S

 

 

 

-

Ian Shillington N.D.

herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 6:05 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

 

You know Chris, I just kinda can't let your post go by without a comment.

 

Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever "secrets" you may have gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if they don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the concept of having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that data when it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right to do so, but I don't believe it is right to do so.

 

I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no monopoly on knowledge.

 

At this time the giant Pharmaceuticals and the Medicos are trying to squeeze the Naturopaths and the Natural Healers out of the picture. In actuality, they are in mortal fear of us, because we get results, where they only fail and actually help to make people worse. There may come a time in the near future when what you and I do becomes illegal and the actual promoting of our "technologies" becomes against the law. What good will your secret be then??? Heavens, you won't even be able to make it yourself and then sell it. Could this be what you are truly interested in??? SALES???

 

I know, as I'm sure you do, that "Mystery" will sell when all else fails to. "Hey guys, I have this new "Secret" miracle cure which will handle whatever ails you", is a pitch that will pull in many a sucker. It seems that human nature loves a mystery.

 

Wellllllllllllll, may be I'm being unfair here. Could be.

 

But I'll tell you this. As a doctor and a researcher, I've discovered techniques (invented and created), that when applied by the individual to himself can bring about a healing in just about every adverse condition there is. So far as I have been able to determine, there is not one disease in which an individual can not cure himself. Not one. Some people are incurable, but I don't know of a single disease which is.

 

Now some day the FDA, or the AMA, or the "Justice" department, may decide to close me down, but as long as my research and hard won knowledge is broadly known by hundreds or even thousands, then the Medicos and the Pharmaceuticals can never beat me regardless of their connections and overt actions taken against me. My hard won "secrets" will be well known by many, and the suppressive elements in society will have failed, not me. Do you see???

 

I've known a few shamans in my time, and they were very generous with their knowledge.

 

But now I'd like to tell you a secret. For years and years, I've been a communicating fool who has witheld absolutely nothing. All my formulae are in the files free for the taking (they have also been stored on a server where only I and a few relatives know where they are as well). Anyone and everyone have always been free to call me and ask me how do you do this, or how do you do that, and I've always been free with the data. I've always encouraged others to make their own products, grow their own herbs, and to spread the word on how to do it all. And you know what??? I've never lacked for money. Never. When you love people and you share your knowledge and you "GIVE" without any thought of recompense, the damned stuff just comes rolling in. You couldn't stop it if you tried to. Hell of thing isn't it. You just can't stop it.

 

 

Like I said earlier, may be I'm being unfair here, and you're not $$$ money motivated at all. May be I have it all wrong and your "rare" (is this expensive?) byproduct is very valuable and useful.

 

But you know, I'd hate to see such a valuable piece of the puzzle die with you or get squashed out of existence by an uncaring government under the thumb of the giant pharmaceuticals.

 

What a waste.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Chris Busby

herbal remedies

Monday, February 11, 2002 8:03 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe.At 12:21 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote:

Chris, Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures. Suzi Chris Busby <chrisb wrote:

I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone.

At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote:

 

Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a "body suit" that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the "clown" collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly?

It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH.

SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Thanks hon.

Love you too.

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Suzanne Nottmeier

herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 5:56 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

 

Well said Doc....Any good healer or pyshic I ever met did not charge a penny....gave freely and their rewards were great. (Not to exclude the rewards they will receive in the next life).. Aren't we all here to help each other in the first place? I think that is what the Creator had in mind way back when....... My husband is a good example of doing for others brings returns to yourself.... He is always doing nice things for people.... he is the luckiest man I know. "You reap what you sow"

Love you Doc!

Suzi "Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington wrote:

You know Chris, I just kinda can't let your post go by without a comment.

 

Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever "secrets" you may have gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if they don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the concept of having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that data when it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right to do so, but I don't believe it is right to do so.

 

I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no monopoly on knowledge.

 

At this time the giant Pharmaceuticals and the Medicos are trying to squeeze the Naturopaths and the Natural Healers out of the picture. In actuality, they are in mortal fear of us, because we get results, where they only fail and actually help to make people worse. There may come a time in the near future when what you and I do becomes illegal and the actual promoting of our "technologies" becomes against the law. What good will your secret be then??? Heavens, you won't even be able to make it yourself and then sell it. Could this be what you are truly interested in??? SALES???

 

I know, as I'm sure you do, that "Mystery" will sell when all else fails to. "Hey guys, I have this new "Secret" miracle cure which will handle whatever ails you", is a pitch that will pull in many a sucker. It seems that human nature loves a mystery.

 

Wellllllllllllll, may be I'm being unfair here. Could be.

 

But I'll tell you this. As a doctor and a researcher, I've discovered techniques (invented and created), that when applied by the individual to himself can bring about a healing in just about every adverse condition there is. So far as I have been able to determine, there is not one disease in which an individual can not cure himself. Not one. Some people are incurable, but I don't know of a single disease which is.

 

Now some day the FDA, or the AMA, or the "Justice" department, may decide to close me down, but as long as my research and hard won knowledge is broadly known by hundreds or even thousands, then the Medicos and the Pharmaceuticals can never beat me regardless of their connections and overt actions taken against me. My hard won "secrets" will be well known by many, and the suppressive elements in society will have failed, not me. Do you see???

 

I've known a few shamans in my time, and they were very generous with their knowledge.

 

But now I'd like to tell you a secret. For years and years, I've been a communicating fool who has witheld absolutely nothing. All my formulae are in the files free for the taking (they have also been stored on a server where only I and a few relatives know where they are as well). Anyone and everyone have always been free to call me and ask me how do you do this, or how do you do that, and I've always been free with the data. I've always encouraged others to make their own products, grow their own herbs, and to spread the word on how to do it all. And you know what??? I've never lacked for money. Never. When you love people and you share your knowledge and you "GIVE" without any thought of recompense, the damned stuff just comes rolling in. You couldn't stop it if you tried to. Hell of thing isn't it. You just can't stop it.

 

 

Like I said earlier, may be I'm being unfair here, and you're not $$$ money motivated at all. May be I have it all wrong and your "rare" (is this expensive?) byproduct is very valuable and useful.

 

But you know, I'd hate to see such a valuable piece of the puzzle die with you or get squashed out of existence by an uncaring government under the thumb of the giant pharmaceuticals.

 

What a waste.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

-

Chris Busby

herbal remedies

Monday, February 11, 2002 8:03 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe.

[Guest guest]

You're most welcome Michael.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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Michael Riversong

herbal remedies

Friday, February 22, 2002 7:14 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer

 

This is such an awesomely beautiful statement, i have to comment. I have studied a lot of history. Every once in a while a time happens when tremendous progress is made within just a few years, large numbers of people find happiness, and later on people point to a "golden age"....

Thanks, Ian, for providing this forum. And also thanks for reminding us of the real source of prosperity.

[Guest guest]

Chris noone seems to not understand its a secret you will not share

ok.The biggest problem would seem to be if you are not going to share

your secret why mention it at all that seems kinda silly and like

your trying to make people mad at you.Just stop talking about it and

let it go your not going to share it they know it so drop it.

Its nothing against you either i understand money being hard to come

by we all have those problems.

 

Tammy

 

 

 

 

-- In herbal remedies, Chris Busby <chrisb@i...> wrote:

> Doc: I find that in my training from a Native American Medicine

woman and

> the privilege of learning several of the oldest remedies and herb

to use,

> and agreements made in this learning process should be respected