Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone. At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote: Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a " body suit " that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the " clown " collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly? It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH. Suzi Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe. At 12:21 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote: Chris, Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures. Suzi Chris Busby <chrisb wrote: I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone. At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote: Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a " body suit " that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the " clown " collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly? It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH. Suzi Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a "body suit" that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the "clown" collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly? It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH. Suzi Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Chris, Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures. Suzi Chris Busby <chrisb wrote: I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone.At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote: Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a "body suit" that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the "clown" collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly?It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH.Suzi Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Sprinkle or spray cayenne powder or tincture on it and the licking will stop. Guaruuunteeeed. Love, Doc PS. It'll also help to heal the wound ;o) Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Suzanne Nottmeier 7mfarm ; herbal remedies ; holistic-goats Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:06 PM [herbal remedies] Wound healer Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a "body suit" that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the "clown" collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly? It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 You know Chris, I just kinda can't let your post go by without a comment. Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever "secrets" you may have gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if they don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the concept of having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that data when it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right to do so, but I don't believe it is right to do so. I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no monopoly on knowledge. At this time the giant Pharmaceuticals and the Medicos are trying to squeeze the Naturopaths and the Natural Healers out of the picture. In actuality, they are in mortal fear of us, because we get results, where they only fail and actually help to make people worse. There may come a time in the near future when what you and I do becomes illegal and the actual promoting of our "technologies" becomes against the law. What good will your secret be then??? Heavens, you won't even be able to make it yourself and then sell it. Could this be what you are truly interested in??? SALES??? I know, as I'm sure you do, that "Mystery" will sell when all else fails to. "Hey guys, I have this new "Secret" miracle cure which will handle whatever ails you", is a pitch that will pull in many a sucker. It seems that human nature loves a mystery. Wellllllllllllll, may be I'm being unfair here. Could be. But I'll tell you this. As a doctor and a researcher, I've discovered techniques (invented and created), that when applied by the individual to himself can bring about a healing in just about every adverse condition there is. So far as I have been able to determine, there is not one disease in which an individual can not cure himself. Not one. Some people are incurable, but I don't know of a single disease which is. Now some day the FDA, or the AMA, or the "Justice" department, may decide to close me down, but as long as my research and hard won knowledge is broadly known by hundreds or even thousands, then the Medicos and the Pharmaceuticals can never beat me regardless of their connections and overt actions taken against me. My hard won "secrets" will be well known by many, and the suppressive elements in society will have failed, not me. Do you see??? I've known a few shamans in my time, and they were very generous with their knowledge. But now I'd like to tell you a secret. For years and years, I've been a communicating fool who has witheld absolutely nothing. All my formulae are in the files free for the taking (they have also been stored on a server where only I and a few relatives know where they are as well). Anyone and everyone have always been free to call me and ask me how do you do this, or how do you do that, and I've always been free with the data. I've always encouraged others to make their own products, grow their own herbs, and to spread the word on how to do it all. And you know what??? I've never lacked for money. Never. When you love people and you share your knowledge and you "GIVE" without any thought of recompense, the damned stuff just comes rolling in. You couldn't stop it if you tried to. Hell of thing isn't it. You just can't stop it. Like I said earlier, may be I'm being unfair here, and you're not $$$ money motivated at all. May be I have it all wrong and your "rare" (is this expensive?) byproduct is very valuable and useful. But you know, I'd hate to see such a valuable piece of the puzzle die with you or get squashed out of existence by an uncaring government under the thumb of the giant pharmaceuticals. What a waste. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Chris Busby herbal remedies Monday, February 11, 2002 8:03 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe.At 12:21 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote: Chris, Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures. Suzi Chris Busby <chrisb wrote: I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone. At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote: Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a "body suit" that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the "clown" collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly? It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH. Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Well said Doc....Any good healer or pyshic I ever met did not charge a penny....gave freely and their rewards were great. (Not to exclude the rewards they will receive in the next life).. Aren't we all here to help each other in the first place? I think that is what the Creator had in mind way back when....... My husband is a good example of doing for others brings returns to yourself.... He is always doing nice things for people.... he is the luckiest man I know. "You reap what you sow" Love you Doc! Suzi "Ian Shillington N.D." <Dr.IanShillington wrote: You know Chris, I just kinda can't let your post go by without a comment. Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever "secrets" you may have gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if they don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the concept of having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that data when it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right to do so, but I don't believe it is right to do so. I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no monopoly on knowledge. At this time the giant Pharmaceuticals and the Medicos are trying to squeeze the Naturopaths and the Natural Healers out of the picture. In actuality, they are in mortal fear of us, because we get results, where they only fail and actually help to make people worse. There may come a time in the near future when what you and I do becomes illegal and the actual promoting of our "technologies" becomes against the law. What good will your secret be then??? Heavens, you won't even be able to make it yourself and then sell it. Could this be what you are truly interested in??? SALES??? I know, as I'm sure you do, that "Mystery" will sell when all else fails to. "Hey guys, I have this new "Secret" miracle cure which will handle whatever ails you", is a pitch that will pull in many a sucker. It seems that human nature loves a mystery. Wellllllllllllll, may be I'm being unfair here. Could be. But I'll tell you this. As a doctor and a researcher, I've discovered techniques (invented and created), that when applied by the individual to himself can bring about a healing in just about every adverse condition there is. So far as I have been able to determine, there is not one disease in which an individual can not cure himself. Not one. Some people are incurable, but I don't know of a single disease which is. Now some day the FDA, or the AMA, or the "Justice" department, may decide to close me down, but as long as my research and hard won knowledge is broadly known by hundreds or even thousands, then the Medicos and the Pharmaceuticals can never beat me regardless of their connections and overt actions taken against me. My hard won "secrets" will be well known by many, and the suppressive elements in society will have failed, not me. Do you see??? I've known a few shamans in my time, and they were very generous with their knowledge. But now I'd like to tell you a secret. For years and years, I've been a communicating fool who has witheld absolutely nothing. All my formulae are in the files free for the taking (they have also been stored on a server where only I and a few relatives know where they are as well). Anyone and everyone have always been free to call me and ask me how do you do this, or how do you do that, and I've always been free with the data. I've always encouraged others to make their own products, grow their own herbs, and to spread the word on how to do it all. And you know what??? I've never lacked for money. Never. When you love people and you share your knowledge and you "GIVE" without any thought of recompense, the damned stuff just comes rolling in. You couldn't stop it if you tried to. Hell of thing isn't it. You just can't stop it. Like I said earlier, may be I'm being unfair here, and you're not $$$ money motivated at all. May be I have it all wrong and your "rare" (is this expensive?) byproduct is very valuable and useful. But you know, I'd hate to see such a valuable piece of the puzzle die with you or get squashed out of existence by an uncaring government under the thumb of the giant pharmaceuticals. What a waste. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Chris Busby herbal remedies Monday, February 11, 2002 8:03 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer Sorry, I can't share my recipe, but there is not plain beeswax in it, but a by-product, which is rare. It is a traditional native american recipe, and that is part of the privilege of having the recipe.At 12:21 PM 2/21/02 -0800, you wrote: Chris, Ihave beeswax -what is your recipe?? I useBitter apple on other stuff - never thought about using it on the sutures. Suzi Chris Busby <chrisb wrote: I make a bee salve that I use on my cat. She is diabetic and this helps in the healing. the other thing to put neat it is Bitter Apple found at better pet stores. There is also a spray hydrocortisone. At 05:06 PM 2/20/02 -0800, you wrote: Need some help.... my mini pin (dog) just got spayed. She is a licker. So I am looking for something I can put on the incision where the stitches are to heal it faster than normal. Any ideas? We are getting her a "body suit" that the vet says will keep her from getting to the sutres....the newest thing since the "clown" collar. She had surgery today and I pick her up tomorrow.... It should be interesting trying to keep her quiet....she loves to run the house, the steps, jump, etc.....and they tell me I have to keep her from doing this.....LOL. Anyway, anybody got experience on getting wounds to heal fast or getting the skin to mesh together quickly? It sure is quiet around here, our elderly lab and kitty both miss her, including my DH. SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. 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Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Tom, I too squeeze the Ecaps... use it for rashes too. Suzi Victim <tom wrote: I used to work with someone like this who would share nothing with you for the fear that one day you may know more than he.in that instance it was a classic case of job insecurity.I have a secret of my own and thats to squeeze the oil out of a vitamin E Capsule onto the wound. i have done it to burns as well as stiched area's and it works great.If you choose to share this knowledge with others that is totaly up to you. Tom - jocelyne hemming Herbal remedies Friday, February 22, 2002 6:06 PM [herbal remedies] Wound Healer Hi Chris,I found your comments about wanting to hold on to your "secret" offensive.Here is a wonderful list with people sharing all sorts of "secrets" for thegood of others.I think knowledge if for sharing. It does not belong to you or I. It wouldhave been better not to say anything at all.Why do you belong to this list, is it to take and then hold on to what youknow. Though it is your right, is the point of it?I take this opportunity to thank all the good people who give generously,and hope that when I can I too can contribute.JocelyneFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 This is such an awesomely beautiful statement, i have to comment. I have studied a lot of history. Every once in a while a time happens when tremendous progress is made within just a few years, large numbers of people find happiness, and later on people point to a " golden age " . One characteristic always marks these times. It is a free exchange of knowledge, in one form or another. For the ancient Greeks, it was Academe, a grove of trees just outside Athens where scholars and students met every day. In ancient China, there was a period known as the " Hundred Flowers " , when minor government officials travelled all over a decaying empire (the Chou dynasty) and exchanged ideas. In the 1600s and 1700s, in Europe, everyone grew tired of constant war, and instead started cultivating interests in music and science, corresponding with each other extensively through newly revived postal systems. One of my favorites is the time of Empress Marisa Theresa of Austria, who pulled down barriers to trade and education, creating a period of unprecedented prosperity even outside her empire. Thanks, Ian, for providing this forum. And also thanks for reminding us of the real source of prosperity. At 11:05 PM 2/21/02 -0700, you wrote: >You know Chris, I just kinda can't let your post go by without a >comment. > >Of course it is your right to hold onto what ever " secrets " you may have >gleaned, and I don't believe in anyone having to communicate if they >don't want to. But it is also my right to disagree with the concept of >having an esoteric concept or idea and then withholding that data when >it may do someone some good. I believe you have the right to do so, but >I don't believe it is right to do so. > >I believe that KNOWLEDGE belongs to everyone. There should be no >monopoly on knowledge. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Dear Sue, Thank you so much for the validation of my words. We have a great list here, and many wonderful people on it. The best school that I can recommend at this time is Doc Christopher's School of Natural Healing found at: http://www.herbsfirst.com/snh.html You can get an MH (Master Herbalist) degree through correspondence, with the final test taken at the school itself. Trinity College (my alma mater) is also very good and offers correspondence, but don't go there if you're looking for an "easy" degree. You'll work your buns off but it'll be well worth it. The foundation of knowledge you get there is invaluable. You can check them out at: http://www.trinityschool.org/ Some day I hope to have my own school which will also have correspondence courses. Hope this helps. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Dianayhi herbal remedies Friday, February 22, 2002 12:54 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Wound healer Dear Doc, I do so agree with your statements on sharing knowledge and how if you are free with your energy, time, knowledge the money just comes in anyway. This is great wisdom. It makes me think of the human genome project where the people who were going to put it in the public domain managed to finish it before the big business scientists who would have locked up that knowledge and the key would have been lots of money. Apparently the public knowledge scientists were offered vast sums to go over to big business which they turned down. Amazing that there are still people for whom knowledge and public good wins over greed. I very much like what you say in many ways, and especially that there are no diseases that are not open to the person curing themselves. Regards, Sue P.S. I would like to do a formal qualification to become a herbalist/healer. Do you have any recommendations? I live in the U.K. but could study by correspondence I suppose. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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