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[Guest guest]

What MSU are referring to here? >>>Because we can never have true objective signs in OM we MSU every time we make a diagnosis. The empirical experiment of treatment lets us know if it was correct or not

Alon

[Guest guest]

Jason,

To me, it has to do with the fact that botulinum is a deadly toxin. It seems to me a strange and scary thing to inject deadly toxins into people, even in tny amounts, to paralyze parts of their body on purpose and expect that nothing will ever come of it down the road. If nothing else, they are paralyzing parts of channels, which creates a permanent stagnation--in the forehead, stomach luo, bladder, and GB. Doesn't seem like a wise thing to do. I apologize if I used the term "lurking pathogen" inappropriately. I also do not like being a part of kneejerk reactions to anything. I hope nobody has any negative reactions to botox long-term, but I find it difficult to see how that will be avoided, whether it be pathological toxin or blocked channels or necrosing tissue. It just doesn't seem like an appropriate thing to do to living tissue. Sometimes we give people toxic herbs, but they are rarely deadly, and if we do give them, they are given very short-term, in a form that ought to go through and out of the body, not sit there for life.

Joseph Garner

 

>>>The belief that anything

that "lurks" in the body to create some havoc later is far too

simplified to blindly be called a wenbing lurking pathogen, IMO.  But

I would like to hear why you think this is so with BOTOX?

 

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[Guest guest]

>>>To me, it has to do with the fact that botulinum is a deadly toxin.

>>So are snakes, scorpion etc that we use all the time

alon<<<

 

Alon,

I may be wrong, but I don't think there is much in the way of venom or toxin left in a dead, dried out, then boiled snake or scorpion, though Bensky/Gamble does say they are toxic. Maybe there isn't much deadliness left in the probably highly processed Botox. But again, we don't tend to use our venom-producing medicinals for long anyway. We certainly don't try to leave them in the tissues for as long as possible. We know they are toxic and we administer them as such, with great care and for as short a time as possible.

Joseph

[Guest guest]

To me, it has to do with the fact that botulinum is a deadly toxin.

>>So are snakes, scorpion etc that we use all the time

alon