Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Nasty! EWW! This stuff taste so much worse than i imagined. I'm wondering if it's possible that this would work in pill form or if the two powders were mixed? It's not that easy to drink vinegar, especially once a day. Me and my boyfriend both tried it and it was not a fun experience, lol. I'm guessing it would be BAD to take it everyday because of the vinegar, so how much of this stuff is too much? Or does once do the trick for a while? Should he take it when he has headaches or to prevent them? Sorry for all the questions. And thank you so much to everyone that has responded to my posts. *Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Well, if you think this is bad wait til you try the Total Tonic. I took that for well over two weeks, twice a day and about 1/3 cupful at a time. Guess what--it WORKS! I am thinking on trying the P.P. but am going to make only 1/4 of the recipe. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 OK Doc. .I'll bite.. how did the Panther Piss get it's name? Inquiring minds want to know Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Okay so Doc finally came up with one I actually like. I went and tried it. P.P.!! Bare in mind I love blackstrap molasses. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Errrrrrrrrrr, why do you think it was called Panther Piss 40 years ago by Doc Jensen?? ;o) No one promised you a taste extravaganza with this formula (LOL). The most common dosage is: 1 Tablespoon in the morning once a day. For my patients who're going through the handling of a major disease, I recommend 2 Tablespoons a day, once in the morning and once at night. For someone who is just trying to balance a slightly out of whack acid / alkaline ratio, then one every other day should suffice. By the way, anyone suffering from headaches should be taking this at least once a day if not twice. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Irene37420 herbal remedies Friday, January 18, 2002 2:26 PM [herbal remedies] Panther Piss Nasty! EWW! This stuff taste so much worse than i imagined. I'm wondering if it's possible that this would work in pill form or if the two powders were mixed? It's not that easy to drink vinegar, especially once a day. Me and my boyfriend both tried it and it was not a fun experience, lol. I'm guessing it would be BAD to take it everyday because of the vinegar, so how much of this stuff is too much? Or does once do the trick for a while? Should he take it when he has headaches or to prevent them? Sorry for all the questions. And thank you so much to everyone that has responded to my posts. Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 When I've mixed the 2 together (panther piss and total tonic), it wasn't that bad. I had to have a big glass of water to wash it down but it reminded me of drinking steak sauce. It wasn't great but it was tolerable. Ann in Memphis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 I can see it all now. We're going to have a rash of Panther Piss = PP jokes ;o) LOL Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - seifert925 herbal remedies Friday, January 18, 2002 4:40 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss Well, if you think this is bad wait til you try the Total Tonic. I took that for well over two weeks, twice a day and about 1/3 cupful at a time. Guess what--it WORKS! I am thinking on trying the P.P. but am going to make only 1/4 of the recipe. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Man you were brave--Why ruin Panther Piss with Total Tonic!? Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Welllllllllllllllllll according to legend, about 40 years ago Ole Doc Jensen developed the formula to balance the Acid/Alkaline of the body and to help handle headaches (both of which it does). One of his newer patients after tasting it for the first time said, "oooooooooooooooooooooo, Panther Piss", at which point everyone laughed and the name stuck ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - LJaguar2212 herbal remedies Friday, January 18, 2002 6:01 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss OK Doc. .I'll bite.. how did the Panther Piss get it's name? Inquiring minds want to know :)Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 One of his newer patients after tasting it for the first time said, "oooooooooooooooooooooo, Panther Piss", at which point everyone laughed and the name stuck ;o) Thank you Doc for the explanation! Sounds delightfully delicious-ha! ..but apparently worth it! Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2002 Report Share Posted January 24, 2002 Glad you like it hon ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - seifert925 herbal remedies Friday, January 18, 2002 6:49 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss Okay so Doc finally came up with one I actually like. I went and tried it. P.P.!! Bare in mind I love blackstrap molasses. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2002 Report Share Posted January 26, 2002 It is very worth it Beth. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - LJaguar2212 herbal remedies Monday, January 21, 2002 11:14 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss One of his newer patients after tasting it for the first time said, "oooooooooooooooooooooo, Panther Piss", at which point everyone laughed and the name stuck ;o)Thank you Doc for the explanation! Sounds delightfully delicious-ha! ..but apparently worth it!Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 You go girl ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Sherry Bakko herbal remedies Saturday, January 26, 2002 6:38 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss Now onto the Total Tonic!!!!!!! Full moon Monday - can hardly wait.Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 I must be one of the strange one's I like the taste. T At 05:43 PM 1/26/02 -0700, you wrote: >You go girl ;o) >Love, >Doc > >Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. >505-772-5889 ><Dr.IanShillingtonDr.IanShillington >>- >><slbakkoSherry Bakko >><herbal remedies >herbal remedies >>Saturday, January 26, 2002 6:38 PM >>Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss >> >>Now onto the Total Tonic!!!!!!! Full moon Monday - can hardly wait. >> >>Sherry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2002 Report Share Posted January 27, 2002 on 1/26/02 3:22 PM, Ian Shillington N.D. at Dr.IanShillington wrote: I can vouch for Doc (not that he needs it) but I have been taking PP for almost one month now and can really tell a difference with my knees and digestion. I just started my dog on it - so I don't have anything specific to report there - but absolutely well worth taking it - and I am only taking 2T per day. Now onto the Total Tonic!!!!!!! Full moon Monday - can hardly wait. Sherry It is very worth it Beth. Love, Doc Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. 505-772-5889 Dr.IanShillington - LJaguar2212 herbal remedies Monday, January 21, 2002 11:14 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Panther Piss One of his newer patients after tasting it for the first time said, " oooooooooooooooooooooo, Panther Piss " , at which point everyone laughed and the name stuck ;o) Thank you Doc for the explanation! Sounds delightfully delicious-ha! ..but apparently worth it! Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 <I must be one of the strange one's I like the taste. T> I've been lurking for sometime but had to tell you that I made my first batch of PP yesterday, and I really like the taste, have to slap my hand to stay out of it LOL Hubby doesn't mind it either. Lorraine/Alberta/Canada/62 years young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Thanks Tee for the panther piss recipe--I am so very relieved I don't have to go chasing after a large cat for its offal. Now, there are gardeners that swear by coyote piss--the real stuff--and some have said ceratain beers taste like cow piss... I was told for my son's warts for him to take a cool bath in cider vinegar 2x week to balance out his ph. He did for several months and I suppose the warts really like him. We've had to go mainstream with treating them, but the funny thing is, the stuff (acid) the Dr puts on his warts comes from a beetle... sometimes you have to go around to get around!!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Dear Mar, Chris left the list after his "last word" on it all. = His choice. So, we can just end off on that thread here and now. As far as the Panther Piss, the Apple Cider Vinegar and your "O" type diet is concerned. I have found that there is some truth to just about every diet out there. It is that truth which 'hooks' us into doing them. I'm currently working on an article (one of many ;o) which has to do with the sanity of diets and what's wrong with them, and why they seem to work for a while and then fail us. Look for it within the next couple of weeks ;o) I disagree that you might be 'allergic' to apple cider vinegar and so therefore feel that this part of the "Eat right for your type" diet is wrong. Very wrong. This kind of false data mixed in with what is true is what makes diets somewhat dangersous and definitely missleading. Your sensitivity to Apple Cider Vinegar indicates to me that 'potentially' and I do repeat "POTENTIALLY" apple cider vinegar may actually help lead to permanent resolution of some of your problems. Many times what we are most sensitive to, are exactly what our bodies need (in small quantities to begin with), in order to achieve a healing. The reason the ACV is so important in the Panther Piss formula is that it acts as a catalyst in the assimilation of all those organic minerals. There is no reason why you couldn't mix up a special batch for yourself, which let us say, contains twice as much of the Molasses as it does of the vinegar. Then work up the dosage of the vinegar as time goes by to the correct formula. As an alternate solution, you could also just start off the PP with teaspoons instead of tablespoons and keep the formula the same. Hope this helps. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - walkyria9 herbal remedies Sunday, February 24, 2002 11:35 AM [herbal remedies] Re: Wound healer--this is what it looks like! And 2 questions to Doc. Ian... Uhhh..I am bored of this discussion. Cant we just let this Chris have his "secret recipe" and just search for other recipes? As I said in a mail a while ago in this list: "Nature do have everything which can heal a disease, I think".Doc, you talked about to share all you know with other and that you have no money problems. Ive same experience as you have Ok...I have researched abit about the neem-tree. Very cool tree But I am worried. Some stupid industrial company have taken a patent on one of the stuff in the neem-tree. Now farmers in india and other groups are protesting against this patent, because they risk to loose their free use of this tree. Funny thing is that the neem-tree's name in indian is something like: "Free tree". That everybody could use of this tree. Poor and rich...Is there nothing to do to get those companies to quit to do stuff like this?Another question is: Panther piss. I have begun to use blood type diet, and I see it helps me Wellll...I am bloodtype 0, and it is that way that all vinegar is bad for 0. Even apple cider vinegar...Cant I use only blackstrap molasses and get the same effect? Or would lemon juice do the same work as apple cider vinegar?I know youve said before: have I tried this recipe?. But I know also that I react on vinegar, and I have used apple cider vinegar and Molkosan (milk acid from whey)before. I react on both (and both are bad for bloodtype 0).I must tell some really good news :)I got an appointment with a biopath. And she gave me a regeneration-program Im following now. Big doses of vitamins and minerals and Im using some herbs too. My pains (fibromyalgia) is almost gone. I sleep much better than Ive done for 9 years.I get some days where Im bad, but not as bad as before and it last only one day :)She found that my liver and my spleen is overloaded with toxins. And that I lack glucosamine. And that my genes do have a prereferance for all rheumatic diseases and diabetes (thats why I have sugar hunger - dad do have it too and his mother had diabetes II when she got old).Its so cool that I begins to get better And I will be more and more healthy with time - especially since I see that bloodtype 0 diet do really work for me. That diet is loaded with red meat and fish (thats what giving bloodtype 0 healthy lean muscle mass). I have some moral problems with the meat, because I want to be mostly vegetarian. But I know I must be very sure to get enough of right type protein and food in the diet before I go that way again. It is because I have been vegetarian for 5 years in my past, and I got sick of it. Probably because I got too little protein and I ate and drank stuff not good for bloodtype 0 (among these apple cider vinegar and milk and cheese).I do eat salads with vegetables good for bloodtype 0. I love arugula..its one of the best thing Ive tasted, lol. I eat at least one salad each day. With only organic vegetables. And I eat homemade essener bread (I make crisp bread of it). I think thats all I have to say todayHugs from Mar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2002 Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 Ok, doc...I understand what you are talking about. I will try to use molasses with little apple cider vinegar in it. But do you not think Dr. D'Adamo is right in his research? He is too a naturopath and he took over his fathers work. His father (also naturopath) was the first who saw that bloodtype and what food people eat do actually means something. And it have been known that same food can be healthy for one person and not good for another person. That greek doctor said something about that 2000 years ago....cant remember his name just now...uhhh...Hippocrates? I know too about diets and misleading information. I found a site of before-vegetarians/fruitarians who have followed all kinds of diets and are telling whats wrong with them. Their mainly advice is: if you want to be vegetarian, eat at least 20% food from animal source. Milk, eggs, meat or something like that. And they say too that you will be healthy on a totally vegetarian diet (vegan diet) about 3 years, but after that you will get problems. Why? Because you lack b12-vitamin and some other vitamins you only can get from animal sources... And most serious vegetarian diet gurus actually ate little meat or other food from animal sometimes. We just dont know it because some other fanatics didnt want to let people know this, because they believe in only vegan/fruitarian diet.... Yeah... Mar herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote: > Dear Mar, > > Chris left the list after his " last word " on it all. = His choice. > So, we can just end off on that thread here and now. > > As far as the Panther Piss, the Apple Cider Vinegar and your " O " type > diet is concerned. > > I have found that there is some truth to just about every diet out > there. It is that truth which 'hooks' us into doing them. > > I'm currently working on an article (one of many ;o) which has to do > with the sanity of diets and what's wrong with them, and why they seem > to work for a while and then fail us. Look for it within the next > couple of weeks ;o) > > I disagree that you might be 'allergic' to apple cider vinegar and so > therefore feel that this part of the " Eat right for your type " diet is > wrong. Very wrong. This kind of false data mixed in with what is true > is what makes diets somewhat dangersous and definitely missleading. > Your sensitivity to Apple Cider Vinegar indicates to me that > 'potentially' and I do repeat " POTENTIALLY " apple cider vinegar may > actually help lead to permanent resolution of some of your problems. > Many times what we are most sensitive to, are exactly what our bodies > need (in small quantities to begin with), in order to achieve a healing. > > The reason the ACV is so important in the Panther Piss formula is that > it acts as a catalyst in the assimilation of all those organic minerals. > There is no reason why you couldn't mix up a special batch for yourself, > which let us say, contains twice as much of the Molasses as it does of > the vinegar. Then work up the dosage of the vinegar as time goes by to > the correct formula. As an alternate solution, you could also just > start off the PP with teaspoons instead of tablespoons and keep the > formula the same. > > Hope this helps. > > Love, > > Doc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Yes, I think there is a lot of truth to his research, but I think the area in which he falls down is in the omission of "BODY TYPES". I have not done a comprehensive study of his work so I may be wrong here, but what I have seen so far indicates to me that this omission is an essential piece of the puzzle. Example: You're gonna get an Eskimo who may be any one of the various "Blood" Types (A thru O), and yet his "Blood Type" recommendations would tend to fall down with this particular "Body Type". Eskimos have been living on whale blubber for the last 14,000 years (or more), and for an A Type Eskimo to suddenly switch to a ton of raw green vegetables could be detrimental to his health. I'm sure you see my point here. Also, not all naturopaths are equal (one of the beauties, but also one of the drawbacks to the profession). Thusly, sometimes there are as many different opinions on a certain subject as there are naturopaths. Don't get me wrong on this one, I'd still go to any naturopath before going to any Medico ;o) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - walkyria9 herbal remedies Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:43 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Panther Piss But do you not think Dr. D'Adamo is right in his research? He is too a naturopath and he took over his fathers work. His father (also naturopath) was the first who saw that bloodtype and what food people eat do actually means something. And it have been known that same food can be healthy for one person and not good for another person. That greek doctor said something about that 2000 years ago....cant remember his name just now...uhhh...Hippocrates?I know too about diets and misleading information. I found a site of before-vegetarians/fruitarians who have followed all kinds of diets and are telling whats wrong with them. Their mainly advice is: if you want to be vegetarian, eat at least 20% food from animal source. Milk, eggs, meat or something like that.And they say too that you will be healthy on a totally vegetarian diet (vegan diet) about 3 years, but after that you will get problems. Why? Because you lack b12-vitamin and some other vitamins you only can get from animal sources...And most serious vegetarian diet gurus actually ate little meat or other food from animal sometimes. We just dont know it because some other fanatics didnt want to let people know this, because they believe in only vegan/fruitarian diet....Yeah...Mar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2002 Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Yes, I see your point here... When I read Dr. Bass's site I was thinking that Dr. D'Adamo havent found the whole picture... Did you see Dr. Bass's mice project? - he wrote about what diet he gave the mices, how it worked on them and how he thinks this will affect humans, with the same diet. It is one of the most cool stuff Ive seen, lol by the way...Ive started to take panther piss. I got little heartburn of it once. I took 1 teaspoon first day, 2 next day and 3 today. I got heartburn today when I took my 1 teaspoon of it. First day I felt my stomach or intestines moved alot and I had to run to wc 3 times. Not the peeing, lol Could you tell me " everything " panther piss is good for, beside what you wrote in the files? AND - I like the taste. Mom liked it and bf liked it. Its strong taste but its good. Hugs Mar > Example: You're gonna get an Eskimo who may be any one of the various > " Blood " Types (A thru O), and yet his " Blood Type " recommendations would > tend to fall down with this particular " Body Type " . Eskimos have been > living on whale blubber for the last 14,000 years (or more), and for an > A Type Eskimo to suddenly switch to a ton of raw green vegetables could > be detrimental to his health. I'm sure you see my point here. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Dear Mar, The heartburn should disappear within a few days. Let me know if it doesn't. I never saw the mice project. The only guinea pigs I've ever had are my wife, son and myself plus a few brave patients who were very daring. LOL I think I've tried just about everything, including just about every diet out there. Not because I need to lose weight. I'm just curious about the effects of these things on my body. ;o) Off the top of my head, Panther Piss is good for: Arthritis Hyperacidity Hyperthyroidism Sunburn Low Hemoglobin Menopause PMS HEADACHES MIGRAINES Puberty (in girls) Osteoporosis Parkinsons Etc. Etc. Etc. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - walkyria9 herbal remedies Friday, March 01, 2002 2:56 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Panther Piss Did you see Dr. Bass's mice project? - he wrote about what diet he gave the mices, how it worked on them and how he thinks this will affect humans, with the same diet. It is one of the most cool stuff Ive seen, lol by the way...Ive started to take panther piss. I got little heartburn of it once. I took 1 teaspoon first day, 2 next day and 3 today. I got heartburn today when I took my 1 teaspoon of it. First day I felt my stomach or intestines moved alot and I had to run to wc 3 times. Not the peeing, lolCould you tell me "everything" panther piss is good for, beside what you wrote in the files?AND - I like the taste. Mom liked it and bf liked it. Its strong taste but its good. HugsMar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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