Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hello Michael... No, it wasnt the weightlifting causing it. It was an accident triggering it. I was hit by a car - so hard that one of my left ribbone broke. So I had to stay in bed 2 weeks with alot of painkillers. I am laughing today when I think of it, because when I woke up in the morning, it took me half hour to get out of the bed - just to go to wc, LOL Some situations gets funny when you imagine it I have too MCS - multiple chemical sensitivity. If that was the deep cause and the accident triggered the fm, I dont know. But I know I have had allergy to metals since I was 14. Contact-allergy. That means that I reacted on things in my environement since youth. About the weightlifting. My dad was of the thin type who was horrible strong. He lifted stones 441 lb heavy every day. I do have much of his genes, so my body loved the weightlifting when I did it. I have too his bad genes...which means sugar-hunger and too much fat on stomach (that type fat is called insuline-fat - because the pancreas try to protect itself with laying fat around - it was a healer who said that to me). I would really be happy if I found what ayurveda type I am...I have tried before, but it got too complex for me And today with brain fog it would be even more complex to learn...uhuh... Hugs from Mar herbal remedies, Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...> wrote: > The ideal way to determine your body type is to get educated on the subject > and determine for yourself. I have formulated a questionaire which seems to > help. And then occasionally you will find some people who exhibit > characteristics of more than one type, and there seem to be complicated > protocols for dealing with that. I wish this part of science were a little > more exact. > > Is it possible the weight lifting might have contributed to the development > of fibromyalgia (FM)? That's a very tough question. Usually FM originates > from an environmental factor such as chemical exposure, which can be very > difficult to trace. For example, many office workers have gotten it after > their facilities were remodeled. I have known a forestry worker who got it > from an insecticide. These are gross insults to the system, which in a way > transcend the whole Ayurvedic body typing system. After all, ancient Hindus > didn't have to deal with DDT, EDB, or Penta. > > Most Pitta people will answer a resounding YES to this question: Do people > sometimes tell you that you're too intense? Actually i don't even like that > question because it implies psychological typing, which i generally oppose. > But it does hold true over many cases! > > Also i could see how in Norway walking may not always be such a pleasant > activity, given the weather and geography. Even here in the wilderness of > Wyoming, i have not wanted to walk on several recent days due to bitter > winds. And yet that's one of my most favorite things in life. Of course in > past years i've usually arranged to be somewhere else in January. How about > cross-country skiing? Do you find that pleasurable? (Haven't been able to > do that for the past couple of years due to a severe drought here.) > > At 01:07 AM 1/14/02 -0000, you wrote: > >Ugh...I think I am pitta and the walking is something I really dont > >like...I like weight-lifting. But cant do anymore because of > >fibromyalgia. The protein part is true for pitta...I need to get > >extra protein through protein powder so I dont need to eat much meat. > >I cant eat fish because of allergy, so..... > > > >I wasnt medium, I was thin....but other characteristics seems to be > >on pitta on me??? > > > >Marit > > > > -- Michael Riversong ** > Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** > RivEdu@e... ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 > http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hmmm -- body type characteristics are not always inherited, but it happens. You most likely have one of those combination types, which are difficult to diagnose. Your metal allergy reminds me of something in Celtic mythology. It was said, long ago (4000+ years back) that people who wanted to remain pure should never touch metal. This applied to a race of people who have since disappeared as a group. They were what we now call " Fairy " people -- all very lightweight and small with very pale skin and black hair. I personally believe that this race also existed in Scandanavia for a while in prehistoric times, although it was more well known in Britian and Ireland. There is some scattered archaeological evidence for these people. What is the Norwegian word for fairies? Is it possible that your family is a survivor of that race? What part of Norway are you from? It is possible that the painkillers themselves triggered chemical sensitivity. That has happened. MCS and FM are often found together, and could be regarded as two viewpoints of the same condition. At 10:38 AM 1/14/02 -0000, you wrote: >Hello Michael... > >No, it wasnt the weightlifting causing it. It was an accident >triggering it. I was hit by a car - so hard that one of my left >ribbone broke. So I had to stay in bed 2 weeks with alot of >painkillers. I am laughing today when I think of it, because when I >woke up in the morning, it took me half hour to get out of the bed - >just to go to wc, LOL > >Some situations gets funny when you imagine it > >I have too MCS - multiple chemical sensitivity. If that was the deep >cause and the accident triggered the fm, I dont know. But I know I >have had allergy to metals since I was 14. Contact-allergy. That >means that I reacted on things in my environement since youth. > >About the weightlifting. My dad was of the thin type who was horrible >strong. He lifted stones 441 lb heavy every day. I do have much of >his genes, so my body loved the weightlifting when I did it. I have >too his bad genes...which means sugar-hunger and too much fat on >stomach (that type fat is called insuline-fat - because the pancreas >try to protect itself with laying fat around - it was a healer who >said that to me). > >I would really be happy if I found what ayurveda type I am...I have >tried before, but it got too complex for me And today with brain >fog it would be even more complex to learn...uhuh... > >Hugs from Mar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Funny with the fairie theory. My dad was thin, pale skin and absolutely black hair. And blue eyes. Seldom with these colours Today he do have too much fat on stomach like me, and his black hair is grey. I had bright hair when I was born but it growed to be a dark brown colour. I was very lightweight. It was not before I was over 18 year that I started to be more " normal " in my weight. Now Im abit overweight. Thats normally for people with FMS, since pain do that we dont move much... I was born with brown tan in skin, mom thought it was brown fat - like lappish people do have. They are brown, but not of the sun, its brown fat - giving more protection to cold. My brown tan went away when I grew up...But...the brown tan could too be something happening normally in faetus, because I was born far to early...2,5 months too early...Doctors said I was a miracle, because I didnt need help to breath. Today I think my fms is too caused by that my nervous system never got a chance to get finished...so together with MCS and allergies...yeah... Ummm....where my family is from.....4-5 last generations on moms side is from North-Norway. But before that there is several sources. Moms forefathers was from Denmark, Germany and other countries. Dads forefathers is probably vikings, they all was from the small islands out in the ocean here in north. As we know, vikings used to visit Britain and Irland :-) And I think we had one russian guy somewhere in the family very, very long time ago....Well, it is dad who seems to have this fairie genes?? I am born and have lived most of my life in North-Norway. Same place as my parents. We call Fairies for Alver. If you look at viking mythology you will find some names with the word alv- or alve- in them.... I think too that I have a combination type....so I guess I will let my intuition show the way, as usual :-) And I guess you are right about the painkillers and triggering FMS. But I think the FMS always have been there, it just needed some bad factors to show up.... Hugs from Mar herbal remedies, Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...> wrote: > Hmmm -- body type characteristics are not always inherited, but it happens. > You most likely have one of those combination types, which are difficult to > diagnose. > > Your metal allergy reminds me of something in Celtic mythology. It was > said, long ago (4000+ years back) that people who wanted to remain pure > should never touch metal. This applied to a race of people who have since > disappeared as a group. They were what we now call " Fairy " people - - all > very lightweight and small with very pale skin and black hair. I personally > believe that this race also existed in Scandanavia for a while in > prehistoric times, although it was more well known in Britian and Ireland. > There is some scattered archaeological evidence for these people. What is > the Norwegian word for fairies? Is it possible that your family is a > survivor of that race? What part of Norway are you from? > > It is possible that the painkillers themselves triggered chemical > sensitivity. That has happened. MCS and FM are often found together, and > could be regarded as two viewpoints of the same condition. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Thanks for the information. These studies can get very interesting. You gave me more evidence that the Faerie people also lived in Scandanavia, which i find to be helpful information. Wish i could meet with some Sami people. They have an amazing culture, which we could learn a lot from. The way genetics works, there are many characteristics which can stay buried in family lines for a long time, and then come out after years of being hidden. It doesn't always hold true, but it can happen that outer physical characteristics, such as the fairie body type, can provide some guidelines to an ideal diet. So if we study how the Sami manage to thrive, you will gain some good ideas for your diet and your eventual cure. This also means types of exercise, seasonal patterns of living, and even sleep cycles. You might even find out if there was such an illness known among the people, and how they handled it. (Maybe they did not have a successful handling, in which case you're a pioneer -- but the knowledge you gain from this study will be valuable anyway.) It is probable that the Sami merged with the Faeries after the Vikings came in. Then we can also do some " speculative archaeology " and figure out more about how the Faerie people lived in their time. I suspect their diet was largely vegetarian, and involved a lot of native forest herbs that are almost unknown today. Some of these herbs would have been bitter, and would have provided valuable micronutrients that you would need. If we can get some information about any animal remains found at archaeological sites dating back to about 2500 BC, that would help too. Please do relay what you find out. Of course almost no Sami have ever migrated to the USA, but still i would find the information useful in some way. Since you're up that way, although over in the next country, have you ever run across any ancient myths involving a village near Goteburg in Sweden called Yttrby? I've been trying to track this down for over 20 years, and nobody seems to know anything about it. This is important to a study of chemistry. Also, what minerals are mined near where you live? There was a peculiar strength among the Fairie people. It involved artistic beauty. You are now in a position to recover it. At 09:38 PM 1/14/02 -0000, you wrote: >Funny with the fairie theory. My dad was thin, pale skin and >absolutely black hair. And blue eyes. Seldom with these colours > >Today he do have too much fat on stomach like me, and his black hair >is grey. I had bright hair when I was born but it growed to be a dark >brown colour. I was very lightweight. It was not before I was over 18 >year that I started to be more " normal " in my weight. Now Im abit >overweight. Thats normally for people with FMS, since pain do that we >dont move much... > >I was born with brown tan in skin, mom thought it was brown fat - >like lappish people do have. They are brown, but not of the sun, its >brown fat - giving more protection to cold. My brown tan went away >when I grew up...But...the brown tan could too be something happening >normally in faetus, because I was born far to early...2,5 months too >early...Doctors said I was a miracle, because I didnt need help to >breath. Today I think my fms is too caused by that my nervous system >never got a chance to get finished...so together with MCS and >allergies...yeah... > >Ummm....where my family is from.....4-5 last generations on moms side >is from North-Norway. But before that there is several sources. Moms >forefathers was from Denmark, Germany and other countries. Dads >forefathers is probably vikings, they all was from the small islands >out in the ocean here in north. As we know, vikings used to visit >Britain and Irland :-) And I think we had one russian guy somewhere >in the family very, very long time ago....Well, it is dad who seems >to have this fairie genes?? > >I am born and have lived most of my life in North-Norway. Same place >as my parents. > >We call Fairies for Alver. If you look at viking mythology you will >find some names with the word alv- or alve- in them.... > >I think too that I have a combination type....so I guess I will let >my intuition show the way, as usual :-) > >And I guess you are right about the painkillers and triggering FMS. >But I think the FMS always have been there, it just needed some bad >factors to show up.... > >Hugs from Mar > -- Michael Riversong ** Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Hi Michael, > Your metal allergy reminds me of something in Celtic mythology. It was said, long ago (4000+ years back) that people who wanted to remain pure should never touch metal. I, too, am allergic to metal. Decades ago I got my ears pierced, but had problems for years and finally gave up after trying everything I could find. > This applied to a race of people who have since disappeared as a group. They were what we now call " Fairy " people -- all very lightweight and small with very pale skin and black hair. Interesting. My father, who is now 90 y.o., though born in the US, is full-blooded Norweigan. His parents both came from Bergen. He's 5'11 " , small-boned, very strong, with black hair, striking blue eyes, and very pale skin. He sunburns very easily. There were redheads in his family, too. I thought this strange, as we usually think of Norweigans as blonde. My sisters and I range from 5'5 " to 5'10 " -- which I don't think of as small, but we're all very small- boned. > I personally believe that this race also existed in Scandanavia for a while in prehistoric times, although it was more well known in Britian and Ireland. Were they in Wales, maybe, too? > There is some scattered archaeological evidence for these people. What is the Norwegian word for fairies? Is it possible that your family is a survivor of that race? What part of Norway are you from? There was a race called " Fairies " ??? I've never heard of that. Are there any web sites on this that you know of? I know little of the Norweigan side of the family, except that my grandparents were called, " Bestamoor " and " Bestafar " (probably a butchered spelling), and we had lutefisk and lefsa at holidays. My Mom traced the family tree back to 1616, and it contained such notables as Nils Monson, and his son Mons Nilson -- which I found funny. I will say that my dad has a HORRIBLE, RAGING temper, as did his father before him. Not exactly the way we think of " fairies " , is it? Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 I will try to find information about Yttrby. And also about what minerals its around here.... It will probably take time, because library with these information is not close to where I live I will too try to find archeological information for north norway.... See you Mar herbal remedies, Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...> wrote: > Thanks for the information. These studies can get very interesting. You > gave me more evidence that the Faerie people also lived in Scandanavia, > which i find to be helpful information. > > Wish i could meet with some Sami people. They have an amazing culture, > which we could learn a lot from. > > The way genetics works, there are many characteristics which can stay buried > in family lines for a long time, and then come out after years of being > hidden. It doesn't always hold true, but it can happen that outer physical > characteristics, such as the fairie body type, can provide some guidelines > to an ideal diet. > > So if we study how the Sami manage to thrive, you will gain some good ideas > for your diet and your eventual cure. This also means types of exercise, > seasonal patterns of living, and even sleep cycles. You might even find out > if there was such an illness known among the people, and how they handled > it. (Maybe they did not have a successful handling, in which case you're a > pioneer -- but the knowledge you gain from this study will be valuable > anyway.) It is probable that the Sami merged with the Faeries after the > Vikings came in. > > Then we can also do some " speculative archaeology " and figure out more about > how the Faerie people lived in their time. I suspect their diet was largely > vegetarian, and involved a lot of native forest herbs that are almost > unknown today. Some of these herbs would have been bitter, and would have > provided valuable micronutrients that you would need. If we can get some > information about any animal remains found at archaeological sites dating > back to about 2500 BC, that would help too. > > Please do relay what you find out. Of course almost no Sami have ever > migrated to the USA, but still i would find the information useful in some way. > > Since you're up that way, although over in the next country, have you ever > run across any ancient myths involving a village near Goteburg in Sweden > called Yttrby? I've been trying to track this down for over 20 years, and > nobody seems to know anything about it. This is important to a study of > chemistry. Also, what minerals are mined near where you live? > > There was a peculiar strength among the Fairie people. It involved artistic > beauty. You are now in a position to recover it. > > At 09:38 PM 1/14/02 -0000, you wrote: > >Funny with the fairie theory. My dad was thin, pale skin and > >absolutely black hair. And blue eyes. Seldom with these colours > > > >Today he do have too much fat on stomach like me, and his black hair > >is grey. I had bright hair when I was born but it growed to be a dark > >brown colour. I was very lightweight. It was not before I was over 18 > >year that I started to be more " normal " in my weight. Now Im abit > >overweight. Thats normally for people with FMS, since pain do that we > >dont move much... > > > >I was born with brown tan in skin, mom thought it was brown fat - > >like lappish people do have. They are brown, but not of the sun, its > >brown fat - giving more protection to cold. My brown tan went away > >when I grew up...But...the brown tan could too be something happening > >normally in faetus, because I was born far to early...2,5 months too > >early...Doctors said I was a miracle, because I didnt need help to > >breath. Today I think my fms is too caused by that my nervous system > >never got a chance to get finished...so together with MCS and > >allergies...yeah... > > > >Ummm....where my family is from.....4-5 last generations on moms side > >is from North-Norway. But before that there is several sources. Moms > >forefathers was from Denmark, Germany and other countries. Dads > >forefathers is probably vikings, they all was from the small islands > >out in the ocean here in north. As we know, vikings used to visit > >Britain and Irland :-) And I think we had one russian guy somewhere > >in the family very, very long time ago....Well, it is dad who seems > >to have this fairie genes?? > > > >I am born and have lived most of my life in North-Norway. Same place > >as my parents. > > > >We call Fairies for Alver. If you look at viking mythology you will > >find some names with the word alv- or alve- in them.... > > > >I think too that I have a combination type....so I guess I will let > >my intuition show the way, as usual :-) > > > >And I guess you are right about the painkillers and triggering FMS. > >But I think the FMS always have been there, it just needed some bad > >factors to show up.... > > > >Hugs from Mar > > > -- Michael Riversong ** > Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer ** > RivEdu@e... ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399 > http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 What you describe here is a possible blend of Faierie people with an invading race -- tall stature, but thin bones. The Faierie people were definitely in Wales, and can be seen among the Welsh today. They had a very artistic ideal in their society, which seems to have been passed down in Wales and Ireland. I have noticed that a really hot temper will often develop in someone who is a frustrated artist. Also many of the ancient stories about Faierie people will uncover some pretty harsh kings. My main source was the book, " Magic Arts in Celtic Britain " by Lewis Spence -- it's a fairly rare volume. Had to special order it from a store in NYC back in 1972. Several Irish myth compilations have also contributed to my understanding of this race. I used Anthropological disciplines to sort out social customs from these myths. Maybe there are some web sites out there. If you find some, let me know. My browser capabilities are limited at the moment. At 07:37 PM 1/18/02 -0000, you wrote: >Hi Michael, > >Interesting. My father, who is now 90 y.o., though born in the US, >is full-blooded Norweigan. His parents both came from Bergen. He's >5'11 " , small-boned, very strong, with black hair, striking blue >eyes, and very pale skin. He sunburns very easily. There were >redheads in his family, too. I thought this strange, as we usually >think of Norweigans as blonde. My sisters and I range from 5'5 " to >5'10 " -- which I don't think of as small, but we're all very small- >boned. > >Were they in Wales, maybe, too? > >There was a race called " Fairies " ??? I've never heard of that. Are >there any web sites on this that you know of? I know little of the >Norweigan side of the family, except that my grandparents were >called, " Bestamoor " and " Bestafar " (probably a butchered spelling), >and we had lutefisk and lefsa at holidays. My Mom traced the family >tree back to 1616, and it contained such notables as Nils Monson, >and his son Mons Nilson -- which I found funny. I will say that my >dad has a HORRIBLE, RAGING temper, as did his father before him. >Not exactly the way we think of " fairies " , is it? > >Melinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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