can not pin point a solution

[Guest guest]

I am new here and need help. It is a long story so bare with me

please! Several years ago I started seeing a chiropractor that does

kineiology(sp) testing cause I was losing alot of weight and mds were

nohelp. She said I had candida and treated me and did spinal

adjustments. She stated candida was cleared. I did regain the weight

I loss. Than I had a hard fall and hurt the muscles in my back and

she continued to treat me. But during this time her testing on me

showed thyroid not functioning(put me on standard process vitamins

iodomere)also pituatrophin for pituatary problem she said. I got to

admit I did not feel better taking these. while under her care

constipation got really bad and I delovoped a multi nodule goiter.She

did say at this time I did not need the iodomer anymore,but also

female problesm started happening. She put me on supplements for

that.I did go into menopause at 42. I don;t know if she caused all

this or what? I did go to a specialist for thyroid levels were good

but he put me on synthroid for the goiter-tsh dropped to 0 and my md

took me off the meds. I was in bad shape. Than after dizziness

started I went to another chiro-the dizziness went away he said it

was in my neck. But than I still did not feel right(he also did the

kineoslogy testing) and tried several supplements for constipation

and nothing worked(he said I had a toxic lg intestine. But than I

could not tilt my head to the left or right shoulder like my neck was

to stiff. I kept telling him this and he said to do stretches and

they did not work (I felt like I was standing to straight like a

board)I decided to go to another chiro that did not do that type of

testing.He also said my thyroid was working and he basically gave up

on helping my constipation problem. The new chiro said I was a real

mess(muscle knots everyway and the previous chiros screwed me up bad.

I did go to the several mds for the constipation problem and was just

told to take fiber and this backs me up more. They would not listen.

But did put me on prevacid for stomach problesm(made me feel light

headed so stopped it) did a x-ray and said yes I am full of bowel.

I am to the point where i over did laxatives i belive and they don;t

work now.Being full of bowel causes pressure and makes acid problem

worse if it is an acid problem. I have no urge at all and can;t get

it to go pass belly button area. I also get stuck ileovalve and

rectal valve problems. Was told it was IBS.

I found a woman that sells nature sunshine vitamins and does this

stress testing. But her regiomans change on a daily basic. I was to

the point after trying shaklee alfafa-optiflora of starting to go but

not all the way. But than she said I did not need her supplements. It

has been a yr working with nature sunshine and still not better. She

has stated I don;t need menopause-thyroid support. She says I test

for hploria-candida-parasites. But her treatments make me worse. Just

yesterday now she is saynig it is my thyroid. SO am confused.Now she

wants me to take thyroid support-aloe vera. Says I don;t need fiber

anymore. I don;t understand what is wrong with me all I want to do is

have a normal bowel movement. Really scared! And want the urge again.

I don;t know where to begin is it thryoid menopause or IBS or candida

or parasites? Or nothing? I feel constantly tense-bowels are dry-

wondering if i should take oils(but testing shows i don;t need them)

skin is very dry on lower legs only-hands get fluid retention-no sex

drive-constipation with mucus-feel itchy-get cold and hands sweat

alot. no urge at all! Elevated cholestorol. I was wondering if it

gallbladder? Feel I amnot lubricated inside. With a ultra sound on

abdomen ovaries were normal not inflamed-but showed enlarge kidney

but doc did not seem concerned. HRT caused elevated heart rate(tri-

est) and doc want me to take zoloft.Dhea is on th elow side and low

progestorone tests. But this nature sunshne woman says I don;t need

them she states that once the candida is cleared and parasites is

gone I will return to normal. But not ready for the big cleanse. I

don;t think she is doing anything for cleanse personally.

someone help please!! Could it be cause my reactal valve is not

opening cause I can not push it done-i rub th eola valve.

Is there something that keeps bowel from going from stomach area to

below? cause I feel inflamation in stomach and like it can not go

down there? I don;t even have cramping. Thyroid inflames when I can

not have a bowel movement. Please Help!

[Guest guest]

OK, i will take the bait. Yipes! If you were in Kansas i'd send you to a

good acupuncturist and i bet he'd have you straightened out right away -- i

know he would do certain points, and also get you on herbs like Rhemania and

Rhubarb. In a situation like this, often the herbal regimens will change

every day for a while. Thyroid functions can go on and off, which can be

confusing to both patient and therapist. But somehow nobody has been able

to see the basic problem, whatever it is. Surely there is fungus, surely

there is some stress from another part of life, and surely the medical

doctors, in encouraging you to take Zoloft, are really off the wall. Don't

take Zoloft, whatever you do -- it would definitely make things worse. I

can't believe someone would even recommend it under the circumstances --

this shows total ignorance.

 

When all the physical stuff isn't working, my usual inclination is to check

out the spiritual life. Obviously, i know nothing about that from what you

said here. But i do have a suggestion, which has at least a chance of

helping in this situation. Re-read the Book of Job. Use a contemporary

translation, preferably with really good footnotes. Get one from the

library if you must. As you read, look up every word you don't fully

understand. And look around at your life. In this book, which many believe

is the oldest in the Bible, you will see various friends offering advice to

someone in an impossibly painful situation. Have you ever observed anyone

around you offering similar advice? The " New Age " is not so new. Mindless,

useless spiritual advice has been around for a long time.

 

This might take a few days. While checking this out, put aside any

teachings about spiritual life that you have heard from anyone in the past.

Just concentrate on the book, and the things that have happened in your life

that are similar. Then, let me know if you found anything.

 

At 04:02 PM 1/9/02 -0000, you wrote:

>I am new here and need help. It is a long story so bare with me

>please! Several years ago I started seeing a chiropractor that does

>kineiology(sp) testing cause I was losing alot of weight and mds were

>nohelp. She said I had candida and treated me and did spinal

>adjustments. She stated candida was cleared. I did regain the weight

>I loss. Than I had a hard fall and hurt the muscles in my back and

>she continued to treat me. But during this time her testing on me

>showed thyroid not functioning(put me on standard process vitamins

>iodomere)also pituatrophin for pituatary problem she said.

 

-- Michael Riversong **

Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer **

RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399

http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong

[Guest guest]

Wowwwwww! I get confused just reading what you've gone through, so I understand how you feel. There is a tremendous quantity of false data out there and much of that false data is created by the MLM Network Marketing Companies. With what you'v been through, I can understand why you're bouncing around from Dr. to Dr., Chiro to Chiro, and one health "pro" to another.

 

You do need some correct and stable data here, and you've found the right place to get it.

 

I recommend you read the files very thoroughly. There is some great information there and to my knowledge it is all correct, and proven 100%.

 

You need to start off with the Intestinal Cleanse #1 as outlined in the files. This will make you poop, I guarantee it ;o) Not only does this formula make you have a bowel movement, but it will also knock off the candida and the parasites as well.

 

There is a lot going on with you, and you've given a lot of good data to go on, but you need some basic education on the subject of "Natural Healing" and if you wish, you can call me for a chat.

 

The one thing about your post that I'd like to comment on is the Standard Process supplements. These are made with animal glandular parts, and even though they have a certain workability, it is still a bandaid approach to healing. The idea they focus upon is to supply your body with glandular extracts in order to supply the secretion which the gland is not particularly producing in large enough quantities. As I said, they do give relief to some degree, and they may contribute to the rebuilding of the gland to some degree, but they do NOT address the "Cause" of why the gland is malfunctioning or deteriorated in the first place. If one were looking for a permanent healing, I'd stay away from these supplements and focus on causes.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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herbal remedies

Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:02 AM

[herbal remedies] can not pin point a solution

I am new here and need help. It is a long story so bare with me please! Several years ago I started seeing a chiropractor that does kineiology(sp) testing cause I was losing alot of weight and mds were nohelp. She said I had candida and treated me and did spinal adjustments. She stated candida was cleared. I did regain the weight I loss. Than I had a hard fall and hurt the muscles in my back and she continued to treat me. But during this time her testing on me showed thyroid not functioning(put me on standard process vitamins iodomere)also pituatrophin for pituatary problem she said. I got to admit I did not feel better taking these. while under her care constipation got really bad and I delovoped a multi nodule goiter.She did say at this time I did not need the iodomer anymore,but also female problesm started happening. She put me on supplements for that.I did go into menopause at 42. I don;t know if she caused all this or what? I did go to a specialist for thyroid levels were good but he put me on synthroid for the goiter-tsh dropped to 0 and my md took me off the meds. I was in bad shape. Than after dizziness started I went to another chiro-the dizziness went away he said it was in my neck. But than I still did not feel right(he also did the kineoslogy testing) and tried several supplements for constipation and nothing worked(he said I had a toxic lg intestine. But than I could not tilt my head to the left or right shoulder like my neck was to stiff. I kept telling him this and he said to do stretches and they did not work (I felt like I was standing to straight like a board)I decided to go to another chiro that did not do that type of testing.He also said my thyroid was working and he basically gave up on helping my constipation problem. The new chiro said I was a real mess(muscle knots everyway and the previous chiros screwed me up bad.I did go to the several mds for the constipation problem and was just told to take fiber and this backs me up more. They would not listen. But did put me on prevacid for stomach problesm(made me feel light headed so stopped it) did a x-ray and said yes I am full of bowel.I am to the point where i over did laxatives i belive and they don;t work now.Being full of bowel causes pressure and makes acid problem worse if it is an acid problem. I have no urge at all and can;t get it to go pass belly button area. I also get stuck ileovalve and rectal valve problems. Was told it was IBS.I found a woman that sells nature sunshine vitamins and does this stress testing. But her regiomans change on a daily basic. I was to the point after trying shaklee alfafa-optiflora of starting to go but not all the way. But than she said I did not need her supplements. It has been a yr working with nature sunshine and still not better. She has stated I don;t need menopause-thyroid support. She says I test for hploria-candida-parasites. But her treatments make me worse. Just yesterday now she is saynig it is my thyroid. SO am confused.Now she wants me to take thyroid support-aloe vera. Says I don;t need fiber anymore. I don;t understand what is wrong with me all I want to do is have a normal bowel movement. Really scared! And want the urge again.I don;t know where to begin is it thryoid menopause or IBS or candida or parasites? Or nothing? I feel constantly tense-bowels are dry-wondering if i should take oils(but testing shows i don;t need them)skin is very dry on lower legs only-hands get fluid retention-no sex drive-constipation with mucus-feel itchy-get cold and hands sweat alot. no urge at all! Elevated cholestorol. I was wondering if it gallbladder? Feel I amnot lubricated inside. With a ultra sound on abdomen ovaries were normal not inflamed-but showed enlarge kidney but doc did not seem concerned. HRT caused elevated heart rate(tri-est) and doc want me to take zoloft.Dhea is on th elow side and low progestorone tests. But this nature sunshne woman says I don;t need them she states that once the candida is cleared and parasites is gone I will return to normal. But not ready for the big cleanse. I don;t think she is doing anything for cleanse personally.someone help please!! Could it be cause my reactal valve is not opening cause I can not push it done-i rub th eola valve. Is there something that keeps bowel from going from stomach area to below? cause I feel inflamation in stomach and like it can not go down there? I don;t even have cramping. Thyroid inflames when I can not have a bowel movement. Please Help!

[Guest guest]

Where do I get the cleanse? I have to say I have tried things before

that was suppose to work but did not. I am leary of more things. What

is in the product. Deniseherbal remedies, " Ian

Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Wowwwwww! I get confused just reading what you've gone through, so

I

> understand how you feel. There is a tremendous quantity of false

data

> out there and much of that false data is created by the MLM Network

> Marketing Companies. With what you'v been through, I can

understand why

> you're bouncing around from Dr. to Dr., Chiro to Chiro, and one

health

> " pro " to another.

>

> You do need some correct and stable data here, and you've found the

> right place to get it.

>

> I recommend you read the files very thoroughly. There is some great

> information there and to my knowledge it is all correct, and proven

> 100%.

>

> You need to start off with the Intestinal Cleanse #1 as outlined in

the

> files. This will make you poop, I guarantee it ;o) Not only does

this

> formula make you have a bowel movement, but it will also knock off

the

> candida and the parasites as well.

>

> There is a lot going on with you, and you've given a lot of good

data to

> go on, but you need some basic education on the subject of " Natural

> Healing " and if you wish, you can call me for a chat.

>

> The one thing about your post that I'd like to comment on is the

> Standard Process supplements. These are made with animal glandular

> parts, and even though they have a certain workability, it is still

a

> bandaid approach to healing. The idea they focus upon is to supply

your

> body with glandular extracts in order to supply the secretion which

the

> gland is not particularly producing in large enough quantities. As

I

> said, they do give relief to some degree, and they may contribute

to the

> rebuilding of the gland to some degree, but they do NOT address the

> " Cause " of why the gland is malfunctioning or deteriorated in the

first

> place. If one were looking for a permanent healing, I'd stay away

from

> these supplements and focus on causes.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> -

> bait_bait

> herbal remedies

> Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:02 AM

> [herbal remedies] can not pin point a solution

>

>

> I am new here and need help. It is a long story so bare with me

> please! Several years ago I started seeing a chiropractor that

does

> kineiology(sp) testing cause I was losing alot of weight and mds

were

> nohelp. She said I had candida and treated me and did spinal

> adjustments. She stated candida was cleared. I did regain the

weight

> I loss. Than I had a hard fall and hurt the muscles in my back and

> she continued to treat me. But during this time her testing on me

> showed thyroid not functioning(put me on standard process vitamins

> iodomere)also pituatrophin for pituatary problem she said. I got

to

> admit I did not feel better taking these. while under her care

> constipation got really bad and I delovoped a multi nodule

goiter.She

> did say at this time I did not need the iodomer anymore,but also

> female problesm started happening. She put me on supplements for

> that.I did go into menopause at 42. I don;t know if she caused all

> this or what? I did go to a specialist for thyroid levels were

good

> but he put me on synthroid for the goiter-tsh dropped to 0 and my

md

> took me off the meds. I was in bad shape. Than after dizziness

> started I went to another chiro-the dizziness went away he said it

> was in my neck. But than I still did not feel right(he also did

the

> kineoslogy testing) and tried several supplements for constipation

> and nothing worked(he said I had a toxic lg intestine. But than I

> could not tilt my head to the left or right shoulder like my neck

was

> to stiff. I kept telling him this and he said to do stretches and

> they did not work (I felt like I was standing to straight like a

> board)I decided to go to another chiro that did not do that type

of

> testing.He also said my thyroid was working and he basically gave

up

> on helping my constipation problem. The new chiro said I was a

real

> mess(muscle knots everyway and the previous chiros screwed me up

bad.

> I did go to the several mds for the constipation problem and was

just

> told to take fiber and this backs me up more. They would not

listen.

> But did put me on prevacid for stomach problesm(made me feel light

> headed so stopped it) did a x-ray and said yes I am full of bowel.

> I am to the point where i over did laxatives i belive and they

don;t

> work now.Being full of bowel causes pressure and makes acid

problem

> worse if it is an acid problem. I have no urge at all and can;t

get

> it to go pass belly button area. I also get stuck ileovalve and

> rectal valve problems. Was told it was IBS.

> I found a woman that sells nature sunshine vitamins and does this

> stress testing. But her regiomans change on a daily basic. I was

to

> the point after trying shaklee alfafa-optiflora of starting to go

but

> not all the way. But than she said I did not need her

supplements. It

> has been a yr working with nature sunshine and still not better.

She

> has stated I don;t need menopause-thyroid support. She says I test

> for hploria-candida-parasites. But her treatments make me worse.

Just

> yesterday now she is saynig it is my thyroid. SO am confused.Now

she

> wants me to take thyroid support-aloe vera. Says I don;t need

fiber

> anymore. I don;t understand what is wrong with me all I want to

do is

> have a normal bowel movement. Really scared! And want the urge

again.

> I don;t know where to begin is it thryoid menopause or IBS or

candida

> or parasites? Or nothing? I feel constantly tense-bowels are dry-

> wondering if i should take oils(but testing shows i don;t need

them)

> skin is very dry on lower legs only-hands get fluid retention-no

sex

> drive-constipation with mucus-feel itchy-get cold and hands sweat

> alot. no urge at all! Elevated cholestorol. I was wondering if it

> gallbladder? Feel I amnot lubricated inside. With a ultra sound on

> abdomen ovaries were normal not inflamed-but showed enlarge kidney

> but doc did not seem concerned. HRT caused elevated heart rate

(tri-

> est) and doc want me to take zoloft.Dhea is on th elow side and

low

> progestorone tests. But this nature sunshne woman says I don;t

need

> them she states that once the candida is cleared and parasites is

> gone I will return to normal. But not ready for the big cleanse. I

> don;t think she is doing anything for cleanse personally.

> someone help please!! Could it be cause my reactal valve is not

> opening cause I can not push it done-i rub th eola valve.

> Is there something that keeps bowel from going from stomach area

to

> below? cause I feel inflamation in stomach and like it can not go

> down there? I don;t even have cramping. Thyroid inflames when I

can

> not have a bowel movement. Please Help!

[Guest guest]

Dear Denise,

 

You can make these things yourself, and this is what I encourage people to do. The full formula with directions is now in the files, so regardless of how 'leary' you may be, you can invest $20 to $30 and make 'em yourself. If you are not so inclined, you can always contact me off list.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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herbal remedies

Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:05 PM

[herbal remedies] Re: can not pin point a solution

Where do I get the cleanse? I have to say I have tried things before that was suppose to work but did not. I am leary of more things. What is in the product. Denise

[Guest guest]

Where do I purchase the things to make them. I have never done this

before.herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Dear Denise,

>

> You can make these things yourself, and this is what I encourage

people

> to do. The full formula with directions is now in the files, so

> regardless of how 'leary' you may be, you can invest $20 to $30 and

make

> 'em yourself. If you are not so inclined, you can always contact

me off

> list.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> -

> bait_bait

> herbal remedies

> Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:05 PM

> [herbal remedies] Re: can not pin point a solution

>

>

> Where do I get the cleanse? I have to say I have tried things

before

> that was suppose to work but did not. I am leary of more things.

What is

> in the product. Denise