Guest guest Posted December 9, 2001 Report Share Posted December 9, 2001 Hello, My name is Katie. I am 26, I have 6 children, and one on the way. I went to a 100% raw diet over 5 months ago. My children have also significantly increased their raw foods. My oldest child has been suffering from petit mal seizures for about 3 years now. I didn't think anything of it since they run in my mother's family, and are grown out of in time with no ill side effect. I have been giving her some calming nerve herbs, and hormonal herbs to help with it, which seemed to help. A few days ago she went into a grand mal seizure before my eyes! It lasted over a minute. I gave her lobelia to stop it, which it did, and then cayenne to bring her around. It still took 30 minutes for her to become responsive again. I have put her on a 70% raw diet, and will increase to nearly 100% raw. She is also diabetic (controlled by a unrefined no sugar diet) and hyperactive. I believe that maybe the seizure was brought on by her approaching puberty. She is only 10, but I went through puberty at 10, and so did my sister. Early pubescence runs in my father's family. My father also had an epileptic sister. I have her on Dr. Christopher's B & B tincture now, and am making her take lobelia every time she has a petit mal. If any of you could give me more information on the natural treatment of epilepsy, some links, whole raw foods that are especially good for it healing, or additional herbs I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Hi Katie, I suffered Grand Mal seizures when I was an adolescent. The drs were never able to find a physical cause so for years I never knew WHY. I personally think that the treatment depends on what the cause is. Since she is also diabetic, you might look into the ketogenic diet which has been used to successfully treat epilepsy. I personally have had success with a low carb/pretty high fat diet and have had no seizures for 20 years. I also tend to diabetes but am not insulin dependent and with the low carb diet my blood sugars are low. Dr Raymond Peat recommends coconut oil and a good dose of Vitamin E. He has done a lot of work tieing seizures to hormonal imbalances and recommends that epileptics stay away from unsaturated fats(mainly because of the free radicals generated). Coconut oil is the best saturated fat. This is just what has worked for me. I realize you are eating a mainly raw diet. If so, that probably eliminates fat from your diet. Fat serves a useful purpose and if you added coconut oil that might be helpful. FWIW Cindy --- wit2575 <wit2575 wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Katie. I am 26, I have 6 children, and > one on the way. I > went to a 100% raw diet over 5 months ago. My > children have also > significantly increased their raw foods. > > My oldest child has been suffering from petit mal > seizures for about > 3 years now. I didn't think anything of it since > they run in my > mother's family, and are grown out of in time with > no ill side > effect. I have been giving her some calming nerve > herbs, and > hormonal herbs to help with it, which seemed to > help. > > A few days ago she went into a grand mal seizure > before my eyes! It > lasted over a minute. I gave her lobelia to stop > it, which it did, > and then cayenne to bring her around. It still took > 30 minutes for > her to become responsive again. I have put her on a > 70% raw diet, > and will increase to nearly 100% raw. > > She is also diabetic (controlled by a unrefined no > sugar diet) and > hyperactive. I believe that maybe the seizure was > brought on by her > approaching puberty. She is only 10, but I went > through puberty at > 10, and so did my sister. Early pubescence runs in > my father's > family. My father also had an epileptic sister. > > I have her on Dr. Christopher's B & B tincture now, > and am making her > take lobelia every time she has a petit mal. > > If any of you could give me more information on the > natural treatment > of epilepsy, some links, whole raw foods that are > especially good for > it healing, or additional herbs I would greatly > appreciate it. > > Thank you, > > Katie > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Katie, if your sister balks at changing from butter to oil, mix equal amounts of the two together and mix well. It makes a soft spread, much better for her than the butter alone. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 Thank you Cindy, I will look into some of your suggestions. My raw diet is by no means deprived of fat. We eat raw extra virgin cold pressed olive oil in raw salad dressings, plenty of avocados, and raw nuts and seeds. My daughter isn't into the olive oil, (loves the nuts and avocados) she likes butter instead. Now that I have a real reason to be more strict I am transitioning her on to the olive oil as well. Thank you for your help, I believe that what works for one is certainly worth a try. Katie herbal remedies, Cindy <cmofames> wrote: > Hi Katie, > I suffered Grand Mal seizures when I was an > adolescent. The drs were never able to find a physical > cause so for years I never knew WHY. I personally > think that the treatment depends on what the cause is. > > Since she is also diabetic, you might look into the > ketogenic diet which has been used to successfully > treat epilepsy. I personally have had success with a > low carb/pretty high fat diet and have had no seizures > for 20 years. I also tend to diabetes but am not > insulin dependent and with the low carb diet my blood > sugars are low. Dr Raymond Peat recommends coconut oil > and a good dose of Vitamin E. He has done a lot of > work tieing seizures to hormonal imbalances and > recommends that epileptics stay away from unsaturated > fats(mainly because of the free radicals generated). > Coconut oil is the best saturated fat. > > This is just what has worked for me. I realize you are > eating a mainly raw diet. If so, that probably > eliminates fat from your diet. Fat serves a useful > purpose and if you added coconut oil that might be > helpful. > > FWIW > Cindy > > --- wit2575 <wit2575> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > My name is Katie. I am 26, I have 6 children, and > > one on the way. I > > went to a 100% raw diet over 5 months ago. My > > children have also > > significantly increased their raw foods. > > > > My oldest child has been suffering from petit mal > > seizures for about > > 3 years now. I didn't think anything of it since > > they run in my > > mother's family, and are grown out of in time with > > no ill side > > effect. I have been giving her some calming nerve > > herbs, and > > hormonal herbs to help with it, which seemed to > > help. > > > > A few days ago she went into a grand mal seizure > > before my eyes! It > > lasted over a minute. I gave her lobelia to stop > > it, which it did, > > and then cayenne to bring her around. It still took > > 30 minutes for > > her to become responsive again. I have put her on a > > 70% raw diet, > > and will increase to nearly 100% raw. > > > > She is also diabetic (controlled by a unrefined no > > sugar diet) and > > hyperactive. I believe that maybe the seizure was > > brought on by her > > approaching puberty. She is only 10, but I went > > through puberty at > > 10, and so did my sister. Early pubescence runs in > > my father's > > family. My father also had an epileptic sister. > > > > I have her on Dr. Christopher's B & B tincture now, > > and am making her > > take lobelia every time she has a petit mal. > > > > If any of you could give me more information on the > > natural treatment > > of epilepsy, some links, whole raw foods that are > > especially good for > > it healing, or additional herbs I would greatly > > appreciate it. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Katie > > > > > > > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 Dear Katie, Sounds as if you are definitely on the right track here, but just need some refinements. Have you had her tested for allergies? Does she drink much milk? Eat much bread? Need a little more data here. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - wit2575 herbal remedies Sunday, December 09, 2001 3:07 PM [herbal remedies] Epilepsy, Please Help. Hello,My name is Katie. I am 26, I have 6 children, and one on the way. I went to a 100% raw diet over 5 months ago. My children have also significantly increased their raw foods.My oldest child has been suffering from petit mal seizures for about 3 years now. I didn't think anything of it since they run in my mother's family, and are grown out of in time with no ill side effect. I have been giving her some calming nerve herbs, and hormonal herbs to help with it, which seemed to help.A few days ago she went into a grand mal seizure before my eyes! It lasted over a minute. I gave her lobelia to stop it, which it did, and then cayenne to bring her around. It still took 30 minutes for her to become responsive again. I have put her on a 70% raw diet, and will increase to nearly 100% raw. She is also diabetic (controlled by a unrefined no sugar diet) and hyperactive. I believe that maybe the seizure was brought on by her approaching puberty. She is only 10, but I went through puberty at 10, and so did my sister. Early pubescence runs in my father's family. My father also had an epileptic sister.I have her on Dr. Christopher's B & B tincture now, and am making her take lobelia every time she has a petit mal.If any of you could give me more information on the natural treatment of epilepsy, some links, whole raw foods that are especially good for it healing, or additional herbs I would greatly appreciate it.Thank you,Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2001 Report Share Posted December 12, 2001 Kathie, Suggestion....Nuts....peanuts and cashew nuts, dont use them.... pecans, walnuts, brazil nuts and a few others are great.... Love always, PazPacita --- wit2575 <wit2575 wrote: > Thank you Cindy, I will look into some of your > suggestions. > > My raw diet is by no means deprived of fat. We eat > raw extra virgin > cold pressed olive oil in raw salad dressings, > plenty of avocados, > and raw nuts and seeds. My daughter isn't into the > olive oil, (loves > the nuts and avocados) she likes butter instead. > Now that I have a > real reason to be more strict I am transitioning her > on to the olive > oil as well. > > Thank you for your help, I believe that what works > for one is > certainly worth a try. > > Katie > > herbal remedies, Cindy <cmofames> > wrote: > > Hi Katie, > > I suffered Grand Mal seizures when I was an > > adolescent. The drs were never able to find a > physical > > cause so for years I never knew WHY. I personally > > think that the treatment depends on what the cause > is. > > > > Since she is also diabetic, you might look into > the > > ketogenic diet which has been used to successfully > > treat epilepsy. I personally have had success with > a > > low carb/pretty high fat diet and have had no > seizures > > for 20 years. I also tend to diabetes but am not > > insulin dependent and with the low carb diet my > blood > > sugars are low. Dr Raymond Peat recommends coconut > oil > > and a good dose of Vitamin E. He has done a lot of > > work tieing seizures to hormonal imbalances and > > recommends that epileptics stay away from > unsaturated > > fats(mainly because of the free radicals > generated). > > Coconut oil is the best saturated fat. > > > > This is just what has worked for me. I realize you > are > > eating a mainly raw diet. If so, that probably > > eliminates fat from your diet. Fat serves a useful > > purpose and if you added coconut oil that might be > > helpful. > > > > FWIW > > Cindy > > > > --- wit2575 <wit2575> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > My name is Katie. I am 26, I have 6 children, > and > > > one on the way. I > > > went to a 100% raw diet over 5 months ago. My > > > children have also > > > significantly increased their raw foods. > > > > > > My oldest child has been suffering from petit > mal > > > seizures for about > > > 3 years now. I didn't think anything of it > since > > > they run in my > > > mother's family, and are grown out of in time > with > > > no ill side > > > effect. I have been giving her some calming > nerve > > > herbs, and > > > hormonal herbs to help with it, which seemed to > > > help. > > > > > > A few days ago she went into a grand mal seizure > > > before my eyes! It > > > lasted over a minute. I gave her lobelia to > stop > > > it, which it did, > > > and then cayenne to bring her around. It still > took > > > 30 minutes for > > > her to become responsive again. I have put her > on a > > > 70% raw diet, > > > and will increase to nearly 100% raw. > > > > > > She is also diabetic (controlled by a unrefined > no > > > sugar diet) and > > > hyperactive. I believe that maybe the seizure > was > > > brought on by her > > > approaching puberty. She is only 10, but I went > > > through puberty at > > > 10, and so did my sister. Early pubescence runs > in > > > my father's > > > family. My father also had an epileptic sister. > > > > > > I have her on Dr. Christopher's B & B tincture > now, > > > and am making her > > > take lobelia every time she has a petit mal. > > > > > > If any of you could give me more information on > the > > > natural treatment > > > of epilepsy, some links, whole raw foods that > are > > > especially good for > > > it healing, or additional herbs I would greatly > > > appreciate it. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Katie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings. > > Check out Shopping and Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at or bid at http://auctions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote: > Dear Katie, > Sounds as if you are definitely on the right track here, but just need > some refinements. > Have you had her tested for allergies? > Does she drink much milk? > Eat much bread? > Need a little more data here. > Love, > Doc > I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply, but I have been out of state for the last week. She isn't allergic to wheat. She has always had home made whole wheat bread as a staple in her daily diet, but I am moving her to a live food diet, so that is becoming less all the time. She doesn't drink milk, it has never been part of her diet. She has had a it 2 or three times a year maybe, but no more than that. She has had cheese moderately, but I have cut that out now as well. She didn't want to give up butter, but I have made her a nice olive oil, avocado, lemon, garlic, onion, dill dressing that she likes on salad, and we will be experimenting on others instead of butter. I know I cannot just cut out all of her oils, but what I have been studying shows that animal oils, as well as cooked oils are very damaging to the nervous system. So we will have to be creative. She has had 2 more seizures since I made my first post to this list. The second was about half as bad as the first, and the third was about half as bad as the second. The second one was 7 days after the first after having pancakes for breakfast with a friend, and one this morning, was after not having any sugar for a 6 days. The first one she had was the morning after my brother baby sat for me, and gave her cookies and cheetoes. She has never really consumed much sugar. I had a thought out of the blue last night though, she has been using gel cam fluoride treatment for the last 2 months, and I wondered if it could be complicating things. I had her tested on it by a Kinesiologist, and it turns out that it significantly weakens her central nervous system. Needless to say, the gel cam went in the trash this morning. She had never use tooth paste before the last 6 months, she had always used an herbal tooth powder instead. Besides the diabetes, and hyperactivity I am sure she has heavy metal poisoning, since the water we drank for the first 7 years of her life was contaminated with arsenic. We didn't know about the arsenic until the year before we moved, but then we started drinking distilled water. We still had to bathe in it however. Please, if there is anything that comes to mind I would appreciate your suggestions, ideas, input. Thank you, Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Thank you for your reply. We don't eat peanuts, or cashews. We only eat raw nuts. We don't use walnuts much because they are bleached when shelled, and more expensive in the shell where we live. We buy raw nuts in the shell: almonds, pecans, brazil nuts, hazel nuts, and a few walnuts. She will eat all the avocados I will let her, and I am getting some olive oil into her diet by blending it creamy with avocado. I was going to get her something mild tasting like almond oil, but found that it was bleached, heated, and otherwise processed. Olive oil is the only raw unprocessed oil I have been able to find so far, and is what I have been using myself for the last 6 months. Katie herbal remedies, Paz Pacita <paz_pacita> wrote: > Kathie, > Suggestion....Nuts....peanuts and cashew nuts, dont > use them.... pecans, walnuts, brazil nuts and a few > others are great.... > > Love always, > PazPacita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 It is my 10 year old daughter, not my sister. I am really trying to get her away from the animal fats, as this has really helped my MS, and I have read research saying that the animal fats are damaging to the nervous system. We have experimented a little and found she likes the olive oil when it is mixed with olive oil. Thank you for your support, Katie herbal remedies, seifert925@c... wrote: > Katie, if your sister balks at changing from butter to oil, mix equal amounts > of the two together and mix well. It makes a soft spread, much better for her > than the butter alone. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Welllllllllll, this answer just raised a ton of questions I've got. Best give me a call hon, so that we can really hash this out. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - wit2575 herbal remedies Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:46 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Epilepsy, Please Help. I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply, but I have been out of state for the last week. She isn't allergic to wheat. She has always had home made whole wheat bread as a staple in her daily diet, but I am moving her to a live food diet, so that is becoming less all the time.She doesn't drink milk, it has never been part of her diet. She has had a it 2 or three times a year maybe, but no more than that.She has had cheese moderately, but I have cut that out now as well.She didn't want to give up butter, but I have made her a nice olive oil, avocado, lemon, garlic, onion, dill dressing that she likes on salad, and we will be experimenting on others instead of butter. I know I cannot just cut out all of her oils, but what I have been studying shows that animal oils, as well as cooked oils are very damaging to the nervous system. So we will have to be creative.She has had 2 more seizures since I made my first post to this list. The second was about half as bad as the first, and the third was about half as bad as the second. The second one was 7 days after the first after having pancakes for breakfast with a friend, and one this morning, was after not having any sugar for a 6 days. The first one she had was the morning after my brother baby sat for me, and gave her cookies and cheetoes. She has never really consumed much sugar.I had a thought out of the blue last night though, she has been using gel cam fluoride treatment for the last 2 months, and I wondered if it could be complicating things. I had her tested on it by a Kinesiologist, and it turns out that it significantly weakens her central nervous system. Needless to say, the gel cam went in the trash this morning. She had never use tooth paste before the last 6 months, she had always used an herbal tooth powder instead.Besides the diabetes, and hyperactivity I am sure she has heavy metal poisoning, since the water we drank for the first 7 years of her life was contaminated with arsenic. We didn't know about the arsenic until the year before we moved, but then we started drinking distilled water. We still had to bathe in it however.Please, if there is anything that comes to mind I would appreciate your suggestions, ideas, input. Thank you,Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 > We have experimented a little and found she likes the olive oil when > it is mixed with olive oil. Sorry, should have said likes the olive oil when it is mixed with avocados. Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 I appreciate the offer for a phone call, but I would really prefer to keep this an email correspondence. You can reach me at: wit2575 Thank you, Katie herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. " <Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote: > Welllllllllll, this answer just raised a ton of questions I've got. > Best give me a call hon, so that we can really hash this out. > Love, > Doc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2001 Report Share Posted December 22, 2001 Sorry, but I don't have time for it. I barely manage to keep up with my e-mail load as it is, and with the back and forth of one question leading to another, I'd be on the computer 24 hrs a day typing my fingers off. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - wit2575 herbal remedies Monday, December 17, 2001 3:15 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Epilepsy, Please Help. I appreciate the offer for a phone call, but I would really prefer to keep this an email correspondence. You can reach me at: wit257Thank you, Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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