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Have any of you conquered gum disease, and how did you do it?

Have you quit smoking (*my #1 problem - bad me!), and how did you do

it?

 

I have 3 teeth that are loose!!! My dentist says it's gum disease.

I am *NOT* a slob, and I'm not stupid. I brush at least twice a day

(have all my life). I use a sonic toothbrush. My gums don't bleed,

aren't red or swollen, don't look funky. I floss when I remember

(I've got to get better about that). I know that at least two of the

teeth (they oppose each other) are both root canals, and I suspect

the dentist didn't fit the crowns properly (and doesn't want to admit

it). The third might also be a root canal (I know I have 3).

 

I read on Mercola's site that root canals are bad news and you should

have them pulled. If they're pulled, the best insurance coverage is

for bridges... but I've talked to friends who say NO don't get

bridges -- get implants. Implants cost about $3K each, and there's

very little help thru insurance.

 

I also read that Post Stress Disorder (from my abusive childhood)

predisposes people to gum problems. I gnash my teeth in sleep and

also when awake (so do both my sisters, interestingly). Dentist

talked about a night guard -- I need a day guard too!

 

Are there herbs or homeopathics that can help? Vitamins? I do kelp

and alfalfa powder, bee pollen and MSM and C. He gave me a

prescription for some chemical mouthwash... but can I do better?

I've been reading about some herbal mouthwashes on the web, but don't

know what would be good.

 

Should I brush with peroxide? He said not for long if I do. Should

I brush with baking soda and salt? He said a flouride toothpaste,

but I already do that and there's so much written against and for

flouride -- it's confusing!

 

Does anyone have any experience/ideas/warnings for me please? I sure

don't want to be facing a lot of pain and expense with this and loose

my teeth. I go in for a cleaning on Dec. 11 and I want them to

say " WOW! What did you do? It looks much better!! " OK, all you

wonderful geniuses -- is there any way to accomplish this miracle?

 

Thanks!

 

Melinda

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Well, I can add my .02 with this one. I first started by

cutting down. I smoked about 1/2 pack a day and then went on

the patch. This was more expensive then my cigarettes, so I

was only on that for about a month. I had no cravings on the

patch. I do hear that the gum works really well too. I

haven't tried that. Anyway, popcycles help, gum, keeping as

busy as I could. I learned to crochet to keep my hands busy.

I did crochet a small blanket :) I also used a program for

the computer. It's free at zdnet. It's called smoke free

stats. That helped too. It keeps track and tells you how

many cigarettes you haven't smoked, how much money saved,

etc. I also set up point marks. The first week, a small

present, the first month, something bigger and then at 6

months. It's been a year so far :) Good Luck, it takes a few

tries sometimes, so even of you fall off the wagon, it's

o.k.

 

Heather

 

 

> Have you quit smoking (*my #1 problem - bad me!), and how

did you do

> it?

>

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herbal remedies, clicker@i... wrote:

> Have any of you conquered gum disease, and how did you do it?

> Have you quit smoking (*my #1 problem - bad me!), and how did you

do

> it?

 

Buffered powdered vitamin C is the only vitamin C you should use. You

use it to bowel tolerance, in other words increasing dosage a little

everyday till you feel rumbly in your tummy and then back off to the

day before's dosage. That's the amount " you " should be using. Now

that will/may change with stress, and ect. This will be an important

part of your trying to quit smoking, helping with stress and

buffering your system. Because it isn't acidic it doesn't stress your

system for you to use it. An acidic system is a sick system.

Flouride is a bad thing, and will do nothing for tightening loose

teeth, although too much will cause motteling, not to mention death.

And I do not know about using peroxide when you have mercury in your

mouth, it's worth checking into, it's a debated subject. If you don't

have mercury there is nothing wrong with using it, for whitening or

fighting infection.

I know people who have had excellent results reversing gum disease

using an oregano oil, MSM, and baking soda " paste " for toothpaste,

can't tell you it tastes good tho, but it also helps keep the teeth

whiter.

I do not know if you can tighten teeth that are loose due to bad

dental work or teeth that have had root canals, I do not know anyone

with those experiences to share.

My mother swears by Myrh for healthy gums.

And last but not least anytime you are going after a healing, calcium

is a VERY important thing to make sure you are getting enough of. A

source you can actually assimalate, otherwise it's worthless to you.

Hope some of that helps,

blessings,

holyroller

 

 

>

> I have 3 teeth that are loose!!! My dentist says it's gum

disease.

> I am *NOT* a slob, and I'm not stupid. I brush at least twice a

day

> (have all my life). I use a sonic toothbrush. My gums don't

bleed,

> aren't red or swollen, don't look funky. I floss when I remember

> (I've got to get better about that). I know that at least two of

the

> teeth (they oppose each other) are both root canals, and I suspect

> the dentist didn't fit the crowns properly (and doesn't want to

admit

> it). The third might also be a root canal (I know I have 3).

>

> I read on Mercola's site that root canals are bad news and you

should

> have them pulled. If they're pulled, the best insurance coverage

is

> for bridges... but I've talked to friends who say NO don't get

> bridges -- get implants. Implants cost about $3K each, and there's

> very little help thru insurance.

>

> I also read that Post Stress Disorder (from my abusive childhood)

> predisposes people to gum problems. I gnash my teeth in sleep and

> also when awake (so do both my sisters, interestingly). Dentist

> talked about a night guard -- I need a day guard too!

>

> Are there herbs or homeopathics that can help? Vitamins? I do

kelp

> and alfalfa powder, bee pollen and MSM and C. He gave me a

> prescription for some chemical mouthwash... but can I do better?

> I've been reading about some herbal mouthwashes on the web, but

don't

> know what would be good.

>

> Should I brush with peroxide? He said not for long if I do.

Should

> I brush with baking soda and salt? He said a flouride toothpaste,

> but I already do that and there's so much written against and for

> flouride -- it's confusing!

>

> Does anyone have any experience/ideas/warnings for me please? I

sure

> don't want to be facing a lot of pain and expense with this and

loose

> my teeth. I go in for a cleaning on Dec. 11 and I want them to

> say " WOW! What did you do? It looks much better!! " OK, all you

> wonderful geniuses -- is there any way to accomplish this miracle?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Melinda

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There's a tooth and gum formula in the files that I

*hear* is excellent! I will be using it for my entire

family as soon as my tinctures are done.

 

Suzi2

--- clicker wrote:

> Have any of you conquered gum disease, and how did

> you do it?

> Have you quit smoking (*my #1 problem - bad me!),

> and how did you do

> it?

>

> I have 3 teeth that are loose!!! My dentist says

> it's gum disease.

> I am *NOT* a slob, and I'm not stupid. I brush at

> least twice a day

> (have all my life). I use a sonic toothbrush. My

> gums don't bleed,

> aren't red or swollen, don't look funky. I floss

> when I remember

> (I've got to get better about that). I know that at

> least two of the

> teeth (they oppose each other) are both root canals,

> and I suspect

> the dentist didn't fit the crowns properly (and

> doesn't want to admit

> it). The third might also be a root canal (I know I

> have 3).

>

> I read on Mercola's site that root canals are bad

> news and you should

> have them pulled. If they're pulled, the best

> insurance coverage is

> for bridges... but I've talked to friends who say NO

> don't get

> bridges -- get implants. Implants cost about $3K

> each, and there's

> very little help thru insurance.

>

> I also read that Post Stress Disorder (from my

> abusive childhood)

> predisposes people to gum problems. I gnash my

> teeth in sleep and

> also when awake (so do both my sisters,

> interestingly). Dentist

> talked about a night guard -- I need a day guard

> too!

>

> Are there herbs or homeopathics that can help?

> Vitamins? I do kelp

> and alfalfa powder, bee pollen and MSM and C. He

> gave me a

> prescription for some chemical mouthwash... but can

> I do better?

> I've been reading about some herbal mouthwashes on

> the web, but don't

> know what would be good.

>

> Should I brush with peroxide? He said not for long

> if I do. Should

> I brush with baking soda and salt? He said a

> flouride toothpaste,

> but I already do that and there's so much written

> against and for

> flouride -- it's confusing!

>

> Does anyone have any experience/ideas/warnings for

> me please? I sure

> don't want to be facing a lot of pain and expense

> with this and loose

> my teeth. I go in for a cleaning on Dec. 11 and I

> want them to

> say " WOW! What did you do? It looks much better!! "

> OK, all you

> wonderful geniuses -- is there any way to accomplish

> this miracle?

>

> Thanks!

>

> Melinda

>

>

>

>

 

 

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stress has been clearly shown to be a significant factor in gum

disease....studies have shown that people under stress have much higher rates

of gum disease

 

regards,

 

garry

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herbal remedies, clicker@i... wrote:

> I also read that Post Stress Disorder (from my abusive childhood)

> predisposes people to gum problems.

 

stress does create many health disorders, including gums.

 

gnash my teeth in sleep and

> also when awake (so do both my sisters, interestingly). Dentist

> talked about a night guard -- I need a day guard too!

 

I forgot to add, I spoke to my daughters dentist a few years ago

about her all of a sudden gnashing her teeth at night, he said all

kids do and wasn't alarmed. I however do not see this as normal.

I was told however many years before she was born, that it was caused

due to a lack of good calcium. I have to admit that when I increased

her calcium intake she stopped gnashing AND biting her nails, that

was two years ago.

Blessings,

holyroller

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Dear Melinda,

You should make my Tooth & Gum formula as found in the files. This will do the trick. I've attached a success story from one of my patients. The stuff is awesome.

Love,

Doc

PS. She never quit smoking throughout this time period, not that I recommend that you do smoke. ;o)

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

 

Have any of you conquered gum disease, and how did you do it? Have you quit smoking (*my #1 problem - bad me!), and how did you do it?

 

Success Story

When I moved to Clearwater in October, 1997, I had advanced periodontal disease.

Very deep pockets existed in all of my teeth and I had been told by 3 dentists that I would lose all of my upper teeth and at least 4 of my lower teeth.

 

In December, my friend Valorie (Doc's wife) gave me the tooth and gum formula to use on my gums. At the time I had a very deep and painful abscess in my upper gums extending into my sinus cavity. I swished one dropperful of tooth and gum formula around in my mouth and within 20 minutes the pain (that large doses of pain medication would not handle) was gone! I used the formula in this manner for the next couple of days along with Echinacea and the abscess was gone within 3 days.

 

Daily over the next couple of months, I diluted the tooth and gum formula and used the water-pick. This was all in an effort to save some of the lower teeth. I still expected to lose all of the upper teeth and at least 4 of the lower ones.

 

When I went to the dentist in April, 1998 to have a final evaluation and have the necessary teeth extracted, we discovered that all the pockets in the lower teeth had shrunk from 7, 8 and 9mm to the normal level of about 3 ½ mm and I was able to keep all of my bottom teeth. In addition I was also able to save 4 teeth on the top, saved myself $1500, and can now eat raw veggies which I love. I was astounded!! So was my dentist.

 

In a nutshell this tooth and gum product tightened my gums, restored the bone loss and returned the above mentioned teeth and surrounding gums to a healthy state.

 

Mary O

Clearwater, Florida

(The ingredients of the tooth and gum formula are Bayberry rootbark, Oak bark, Tea Tree oil, Echinacea root, Clove oil, Cayenne pepper and Peppermint oil.)

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> Buffered powdered vitamin C is the only vitamin C you should use.

 

Why? I have a lot of vit C right now, with bioflavanoids, but I

don't have a lot of budget to spend. Is this really necessary? How

do you take the powdered C? Do you mix it with something?

 

> And I do not know about using peroxide when you have mercury in

your mouth, it's worth checking into, it's a debated subject.

 

I've never heard anything about this. Is there a danger there?

 

> I know people who have had excellent results reversing gum disease

> using an oregano oil, MSM, and baking soda " paste " for toothpaste,

> can't tell you it tastes good tho, but it also helps keep the teeth

> whiter.

 

I have all the ingredients for that except the O.O. What is the MSM

supposed to do, do you know?

 

> My mother swears by Myrh for healthy gums.

 

I've seen this suggested elsewhere, too. What form is it in and how

does she use it?

 

What's a good source of calcium, do you think? I've got calcium

pills too -- I hope they're okay.

 

Thanks so much for your answers! I learn a lot from you.

 

Melinda

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herbal remedies, GaiaCosair <gaiacosair> wrote:

> There's a tooth and gum formula in the files that I

> *hear* is excellent! I will be using it for my entire

> family as soon as my tinctures are done.

 

Thanks, Suzi! How are you making the tinctures? I'll have to buy

the ready-made to get started quickly, but I'd love to know how to

make it later, as that's more cost-effective.

 

Thanks!

 

Melinda

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This is clearly one of the most difficult areas in our current medical

system. I've been fighting this too, with sporadic victories, but have also

lost a few teeth over the past three years. As a person who cannot get

coverage or enough $$$ to do the dental thing, i've had to rely almost

totally on herbs. Here are a few points that have come up, some due to a

consultation with an honest dentist, some due to associating with Dr. Hal

Huggins a few years ago. Inevitably, Huggins will be mentioned further on

in this thread.

 

First, flouride is a deadly poison, and should be avoided. That in itself

can be difficult. The story of how it got into our toothpaste and water

involves massive government corruption.

 

Vicco toothpaste is pretty good, and can help a lot. Its formula is from

India -- they call it Ayurvedic, but it's hard to square that with current

information on that subject. In any event, it is worth checking the large

number of health food stores you will have to visit before you find it.

Auromere toothpaste is a similar formula, but a little weaker. I believe

that using these has delayed the tooth losses i suffered.

 

Peroxide is useful occasionally, but if used constantly will do more harm

than good.

 

Honest dentists are beginning to agree that root canals are a useless procedure.

 

The best herbal mouthwashes use prickly ash bark as the main ingredient.

 

Alcohol based mouthwashes, which are the most common ones available at

supermarkets, are overall very harmful.

 

Avoid anything with tea tree oil. Maybe it's good for somebody's teeth

somewhere, but those of us with gum disease are likely to get worse with it.

 

My gums always flare up worse whenever i have meals with too much cheese.

Simply avoiding it for a few days, along with taking Vitamin C, tends to

tame them.

 

Gum problems seem to get much worse with Candida infections, so any remedy

against that should help.

 

Chewing Hyssop has been a great help.

 

When my gum problems are at their worst, and nothing else was working,

eating a pinch of Golden Seal would usually do the trick. Also a good

alcohol-based Echinacea tincture would help a lot.

 

As for quitting smoking, licorice root has helped some, but i tend to keep

going back to tobacco. And licorice root can aggravate the gums if kept

there for too long at night.

 

And i probably lost those teeth because i'm not really great at sticking to

an ideal diet.

 

Hope this is helpful. There are several other herbs that are supposed to be

good, but they are very rare and i haven't been able to find them. Back in

1980 i obtained a very fascinating privately published book on dental

health, and it did form a foundation for knowledge in this area. Wish it

were more widely circulated.

 

At 04:47 AM 11/29/01 -0000, you wrote:

>Have any of you conquered gum disease, and how did you do it?

>Have you quit smoking (*my #1 problem - bad me!), and how did you do

>it?

>

>I have 3 teeth that are loose!!! My dentist says it's gum disease.

>I am *NOT* a slob, and I'm not stupid. I brush at least twice a day

>(have all my life). I use a sonic toothbrush. My gums don't bleed,

>aren't red or swollen, don't look funky. I floss when I remember

>(I've got to get better about that). I know that at least two of the

>teeth (they oppose each other) are both root canals, and I suspect

>the dentist didn't fit the crowns properly (and doesn't want to admit

>it). The third might also be a root canal (I know I have 3).

>

>I read on Mercola's site that root canals are bad news and you should

>have them pulled. If they're pulled, the best insurance coverage is

>for bridges... but I've talked to friends who say NO don't get

>bridges -- get implants. Implants cost about $3K each, and there's

>very little help thru insurance.

>

>I also read that Post Stress Disorder (from my abusive childhood)

>predisposes people to gum problems. I gnash my teeth in sleep and

>also when awake (so do both my sisters, interestingly). Dentist

>talked about a night guard -- I need a day guard too!

>

>Are there herbs or homeopathics that can help? Vitamins? I do kelp

>and alfalfa powder, bee pollen and MSM and C. He gave me a

>prescription for some chemical mouthwash... but can I do better?

>I've been reading about some herbal mouthwashes on the web, but don't

>know what would be good.

>

>Should I brush with peroxide? He said not for long if I do. Should

>I brush with baking soda and salt? He said a flouride toothpaste,

>but I already do that and there's so much written against and for

>flouride -- it's confusing!

>

>Does anyone have any experience/ideas/warnings for me please? I sure

>don't want to be facing a lot of pain and expense with this and loose

>my teeth. I go in for a cleaning on Dec. 11 and I want them to

>say " WOW! What did you do? It looks much better!! " OK, all you

>wonderful geniuses -- is there any way to accomplish this miracle?

>

>Thanks!

>

>Melinda

>

-- Michael Riversong **

Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer **

RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399

http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong

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Hi... Michael, is it? You didn't sign your post.

 

> I've been fighting this too, with sporadic victories, but have also

> lost a few teeth over the past three years.

 

I'm sorry to hear that. I found something:

http://www.albrite.com/gum%20disease%20summary.html

Does anyone here know about this? I was wondering if this would be a

better way to dispense Doc's formula than a water pic? What do you

all think?

 

> As a person who cannot get coverage or enough $$$ to do the dental

thing, i've had to rely almost totally on herbs.

 

I'm beginning to think this is a common problem for retirees?

 

> First, flouride is a deadly poison, and should be avoided.

 

I mentioned this to my dentist and retorted, " Yeah, if you eat it in

megadoses, but it's safe in your water and toothpaste. " *sigh* That

reminds me of what General Mills said when I wrote to question them

about why Cheerios contain TSP (trisodium phosphate, a toxic

cleaner). They all act like just a " wee bit " won't harm you. But

these toxins are cumulative!

 

> Vicco toothpaste is pretty good, and can help a lot.

 

Thanks! I'll look for it. Do you think it's better than Oxyfresh?

 

> Peroxide is useful occasionally, but if used constantly will do

more harm than good.

 

My dentist said something to that effect. Do you know why that is?

 

> Honest dentists are beginning to agree that root canals are a

useless procedure.

 

Useless in what way? I read on mercola.com that they cause germs to

poison your system and make you sick. I know that at least two of

the three (maybe all three) of the teeth I'm trying to save are root

canals. Should I go ahead and let him take them out (as Mercola

recommends) and get implants? I have to pay out of pocket, but it

seems like maybe a worthwhile expense, compared to getting a bridge.

What do you all think of bridges versus implants? I hate the thought

of having " innocent " teeth crowned.

 

> Alcohol based mouthwashes, which are the most common ones available

at supermarkets, are overall very harmful.

 

In what way?

 

> Avoid anything with tea tree oil. Maybe it's good for somebody's

teeth somewhere, but those of us with gum disease are likely to get

worse with it.

 

Do you know why? Doc has it in his mouth wash formula, I noticed.

I'm thinking seriously about making that.

 

> Chewing Hyssop has been a great help.

 

Where would we get chewable hyssop, please?

 

> As for quitting smoking, licorice root has helped some, but i tend

to keep going back to tobacco. And licorice root can aggravate the

gums if kept there for too long at night.

 

What form is the root that you use in?

 

> Hope this is helpful.

 

Thank you, yes! You've brought up a lot of good ideas here that I'd

love to see discussed. I'm getting a lot of good ideas, but some of

them are conflicting. The strange thing to me is that if the dentist

hadn't said something was wrong with my gums I wouldn't have known

it... they look fine and don't bleed. Go figure. I wish you the

best with your teeth!

 

Melinda

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Don't know about albrite at all. Will have to check on that.

 

I'm not a retirees -- that makes the situation worse. I just work really

hard & don't get paid much usually.

 

Yes, they always say a little bit won't hurt. Yes, many chemical poisons

can be cumulative. Another factor is that people will demonstrate varying

levels of sensitivity to these from one time to another, depending on many

things.

 

Oxyfresh depends on chlorine dioxide, which has many similar chemical

actions to hydrogen peroxide. So while it does work well for a time, i have

noticed that constant use can weaken the gums a bit. My honest dentist

friend said that for all practical purposes they are the same in their

actions on gums and teeth, for both better and worse. Hydrogen peroxide

does tend to weaken the enamel if used a lot.

 

Yes, what you said about root canals is true. Also the procedure can jam

various toxins into the roots, and leave seeds for later infections whenever

someone is weakened, which these days can happen any time to anyone.

 

Alcohol weakens the gums. What they use in mouthwashes is a more complex

and thick alcohol, called cetyl alcohol, but it has the same effect.

 

Chewing hyssop is just like chewing a wad of dry grass, but with an

interesting peppery flavor. So it's all chewable. Sometimes a bit hard to

find, but i have a very good bulk herbs source here in town.

 

Mostly i get licorice root in chunks and just suck on a couple small chunks

for an hour or so. Really helps the lungs and reduces cravings for

nicotine. There are a few pastille products with it in health food stores,

and most of the Chinese pill remedies have it as an ingredient because it

tends to activate other medicines.

 

At 09:02 AM 12/1/01 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi... Michael, is it? You didn't sign your post.

>

>> I've been fighting this too, with sporadic victories, but have also

>> lost a few teeth over the past three years.

>

>I'm sorry to hear that. I found something:

>http://www.albrite.com/gum%20disease%20summary.html

>Does anyone here know about this? I was wondering if this would be a

>better way to dispense Doc's formula than a water pic? What do you

>all think?

>

>> As a person who cannot get coverage or enough $$$ to do the dental

>thing, i've had to rely almost totally on herbs.

>

>I'm beginning to think this is a common problem for retirees?

>

>> First, flouride is a deadly poison, and should be avoided.

>

>I mentioned this to my dentist and retorted, " Yeah, if you eat it in

>megadoses, but it's safe in your water and toothpaste. " *sigh* That

>reminds me of what General Mills said when I wrote to question them

>about why Cheerios contain TSP (trisodium phosphate, a toxic

>cleaner). They all act like just a " wee bit " won't harm you. But

>these toxins are cumulative!

>

>> Vicco toothpaste is pretty good, and can help a lot.

>

>Thanks! I'll look for it. Do you think it's better than Oxyfresh?

>

>> Peroxide is useful occasionally, but if used constantly will do

>more harm than good.

>

>My dentist said something to that effect. Do you know why that is?

>

>> Honest dentists are beginning to agree that root canals are a

>useless procedure.

>

>Useless in what way? I read on mercola.com that they cause germs to

>poison your system and make you sick. I know that at least two of

>the three (maybe all three) of the teeth I'm trying to save are root

>canals. Should I go ahead and let him take them out (as Mercola

>recommends) and get implants? I have to pay out of pocket, but it

>seems like maybe a worthwhile expense, compared to getting a bridge.

>What do you all think of bridges versus implants? I hate the thought

>of having " innocent " teeth crowned.

>

>> Alcohol based mouthwashes, which are the most common ones available

>at supermarkets, are overall very harmful.

>

>In what way?

>

>> Avoid anything with tea tree oil. Maybe it's good for somebody's

>teeth somewhere, but those of us with gum disease are likely to get

>worse with it.

>

>Do you know why? Doc has it in his mouth wash formula, I noticed.

>I'm thinking seriously about making that.

>

>> Chewing Hyssop has been a great help.

>

>Where would we get chewable hyssop, please?

>

>> As for quitting smoking, licorice root has helped some, but i tend

>to keep going back to tobacco. And licorice root can aggravate the

>gums if kept there for too long at night.

>

>What form is the root that you use in?

>

>> Hope this is helpful.

>

>Thank you, yes! You've brought up a lot of good ideas here that I'd

>love to see discussed. I'm getting a lot of good ideas, but some of

>them are conflicting. The strange thing to me is that if the dentist

>hadn't said something was wrong with my gums I wouldn't have known

>it... they look fine and don't bleed. Go figure. I wish you the

>best with your teeth!

>

>Melinda

>

-- Michael Riversong **

Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer **

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Michael, was it you who said we shouldn't use anything with tea tree oil in it ? Can I ask why, as I have used it and my teeth and gums really shaped up. I too was getting some loose teeth. Patty

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herbal remedies, Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...> wrote:

> Oxyfresh depends on chlorine dioxide, which has many similar

chemical actions to hydrogen peroxide. So while it does work well

for a time, i have noticed that constant use can weaken the gums a

bit.

 

Thanks, Michael. I won't use it for long, then.

 

Thanks for the warning about alcohol in mouthwashes.

 

I'll check the HFS for hyssop and licorice root, thanks.

 

Melinda

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Gadzoooooks NO! Tea Tree Oil is excellent in "small quantities" for the teeth. It is in my Tooth and Gum formula and helps to work wonders. I've never had a patient who's had a problem with that formula.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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seifert925

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Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Help! Dental

 

Michael, was it you who said we shouldn't use anything with tea tree oil in it ? Can I ask why, as I have used it and my teeth and gums really shaped up. I too was getting some loose teeth. Patty

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This is personal experience. I found tea tree oil to be irritating -- which

is of course of great value when it is used for antiseptic purposes. Your

experience is an interesting bit of data. Wish we had time to follow up &

find out if there is any correlation between using tea tree oil on the gums

and getting benefits from it, and whether or not a person has diabetes. I

also have a suspicion that tea tree oil may help against candida in some

cases. That can cause gum problems too.

 

At 10:18 PM 12/2/01 EST, you wrote:

>Michael, was it you who said we shouldn't use anything with tea tree oil in

>it ? Can I ask why, as I have used it and my teeth and gums really shaped up.

>I too was getting some loose teeth. Patty

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Since i don't actually see patients, i will have to defer to your

experience. But i really did have a huge problem with three different

preparations containing Tea Tree Oil, and so stopped using it for gums. But

i will use it for lots of other things.

 

At 11:39 PM 12/3/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Gadzoooooks NO! Tea Tree Oil is excellent in " small quantities " for the

>teeth. It is in my Tooth and Gum formula and helps to work wonders.

>I've never had a patient who's had a problem with that formula.

>

>Love,

>

>Doc

>

>Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

>505-772-5889

>Dr.IanShillington

> -

> seifert925

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, December 02, 2001 8:18 PM

> Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Help! Dental

>

>

> Michael, was it you who said we shouldn't use anything with tea tree

>oil in it ? Can I ask why, as I have used it and my teeth and gums

>really shaped up. I too was getting some loose teeth. Patty

-- Michael Riversong **

Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer **

RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399

http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong

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