Help/advice on making this ointment

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Doc, I have a few questions if you don't mind. Of course I

appreciate input from anyone else as well so please don't hesitate.

 

I am trying to make a drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory

ointment. On page 354 in School for Natural Healing, there is a

recipe for an ointment that sounds excellent. Unfortunately I need

to make it right now (in fact it's in the oven already, but still

would like your thoughts/additions), and don't have the ingredients.

These are the ingredients (without directions) for the ointment in

the book:

3 quarts mutton tallow

2 oz chickweed herb

2 oz comfrey root

2 oz marshmallow root

2 oz goldenseal root

2 oz lobelia herb w/seed

2 oz Kino (when possible)

1 oz Poke Root

2lbs beeswax

6 oz olive oil

2 ounces wheat germ oil

1 pint pine tar

 

A question, can I use something besides mutton tallow (or animal

prods)?

This is what I ended up doing. As of yet I have not been able to

find lobelia or goldenseal, and I need to get out and hunt for

chickweed (seems like that's the one i really need!).

 

4oz marshmallow root (dried)

4oz burdock root (dried)

8oz comfrey (dried)

Enough oil to cover thoroughly - about 4 parts olive oil, 1 part

wheat germ oil. Cook in the oven for 2-3 hours at 82 degrees

centigrade. When it's done cooking I will strain and melt a couple

of oz of beeswax.

 

I immagine this will be somewhat effective, but can you give me an

idea about how effective compared to doc christopher's recipe above

for example? for the drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory

effects? The person who will be using it itches all over with pain

and minor swelling accompanying due to what we think is a release of

toxins through the skin as she has been juice fasting and cancer

attacking for several months now. We would also like to put it on a

cancer growth that seems to be coming out quite nicely on it's own

anyway (just not fast enough). I thought about adding cayenne, but

wasn't sure how that would go over since she already has a burning

sensation all over. What do you think?

Thanks so much for your time responders.

Thessa

[Guest guest]

Ok, now the ointment is done - how exciting! anyway, i have all

these roots leftover, and they don't seem at all fully drained of

their properties. I can smell them strongly for example. You think

I can use them over again in one way or another instead of tossing

them away?

 

herbal remedies, thessabelcher@h... wrote:

> Doc, I have a few questions if you don't mind. Of course I

> appreciate input from anyone else as well so please don't hesitate.

>

> I am trying to make a drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory

> ointment. On page 354 in School for Natural Healing, there is a

> recipe for an ointment that sounds excellent. Unfortunately I need

> to make it right now (in fact it's in the oven already, but still

> would like your thoughts/additions), and don't have the

ingredients.

> These are the ingredients (without directions) for the ointment in

> the book:

> 3 quarts mutton tallow

> 2 oz chickweed herb

> 2 oz comfrey root

> 2 oz marshmallow root

> 2 oz goldenseal root

> 2 oz lobelia herb w/seed

> 2 oz Kino (when possible)

> 1 oz Poke Root

> 2lbs beeswax

> 6 oz olive oil

> 2 ounces wheat germ oil

> 1 pint pine tar

>

> A question, can I use something besides mutton tallow (or animal

> prods)?

> This is what I ended up doing. As of yet I have not been able to

> find lobelia or goldenseal, and I need to get out and hunt for

> chickweed (seems like that's the one i really need!).

>

> 4oz marshmallow root (dried)

> 4oz burdock root (dried)

> 8oz comfrey (dried)

> Enough oil to cover thoroughly - about 4 parts olive oil, 1 part

> wheat germ oil. Cook in the oven for 2-3 hours at 82 degrees

> centigrade. When it's done cooking I will strain and melt a couple

> of oz of beeswax.

>

> I immagine this will be somewhat effective, but can you give me an

> idea about how effective compared to doc christopher's recipe above

> for example? for the drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory

> effects? The person who will be using it itches all over with pain

> and minor swelling accompanying due to what we think is a release

of

> toxins through the skin as she has been juice fasting and cancer

> attacking for several months now. We would also like to put it on a

> cancer growth that seems to be coming out quite nicely on it's own

> anyway (just not fast enough). I thought about adding cayenne, but

> wasn't sure how that would go over since she already has a burning

> sensation all over. What do you think?

> Thanks so much for your time responders.

> Thessa

[Guest guest]

Dear Thessa,

 

First off, I wouldn't use cayenne in this mixture. You have Lobelia in it which will bring down the itching and calm the skin. The cayenne would be used if you were trying to heat it up and it sounds as if it is too hot already.

 

This formula looks as if it would be dynamite (Never made it or used it myself), and should do the trick for your friend.

Like you, I also question the use of Mutton tallow and would use a combination of Organic Olive Oil and Bees Wax, in a larger quantity than what is proposed to make up the difference. This formula should handle the itching almost immediately.

 

Since you are missing a few of the items, and are having a problem getting them, I'd use Slippery Elm Bark Powder in their place. Slippery Elm Bark is very mucilaginous and by itself could handle the condition. It is very soothing.

 

If you are planning on using it on a cancerous growth, then make sure you add enough Poke Root, Chaparral, and Red Clover Blossoms. These are the 3 top cancer fighting herbs.

 

My Total Draw Poultice Powder Formula (in the files) would also do the trick with the cancerous growth and is simpler to make. However, this requires Pharmaceutical Grade DMSO which may be very hard to find over in Italia ???

 

Whatever, don't let the lack of an ingredient or two stop you. Go with what you have and I think you'll come out OK.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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thessabelcher

herbal remedies

Sunday, November 25, 2001 3:34 AM

[herbal remedies] Help/advice on making this ointment

Doc, I have a few questions if you don't mind. Of course I appreciate input from anyone else as well so please don't hesitate.I am trying to make a drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory ointment. On page 354 in School for Natural Healing, there is a recipe for an ointment that sounds excellent. Unfortunately I need to make it right now (in fact it's in the oven already, but still would like your thoughts/additions), and don't have the ingredients. These are the ingredients (without directions) for the ointment in the book:3 quarts mutton tallow2 oz chickweed herb2 oz comfrey root2 oz marshmallow root2 oz goldenseal root2 oz lobelia herb w/seed2 oz Kino (when possible)1 oz Poke Root2lbs beeswax6 oz olive oil2 ounces wheat germ oil1 pint pine tarA question, can I use something besides mutton tallow (or animal prods)? This is what I ended up doing. As of yet I have not been able to find lobelia or goldenseal, and I need to get out and hunt for chickweed (seems like that's the one i really need!).4oz marshmallow root (dried)4oz burdock root (dried)8oz comfrey (dried)Enough oil to cover thoroughly - about 4 parts olive oil, 1 part wheat germ oil. Cook in the oven for 2-3 hours at 82 degrees centigrade. When it's done cooking I will strain and melt a couple of oz of beeswax. I immagine this will be somewhat effective, but can you give me an idea about how effective compared to doc christopher's recipe above for example? for the drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory effects? The person who will be using it itches all over with pain and minor swelling accompanying due to what we think is a release of toxins through the skin as she has been juice fasting and cancer attacking for several months now. We would also like to put it on a cancer growth that seems to be coming out quite nicely on it's own anyway (just not fast enough). I thought about adding cayenne, but wasn't sure how that would go over since she already has a burning sensation all over. What do you think?Thanks so much for your time responders.

[Guest guest]

Doc, thanks so much for the pointers. My off the hip ointment worked

pretty well to relieve the itching and dryness, but the swelling

still remains. I can't seem to find the recipe for the poultice

powder that contains DMSO (only the melanoma recipe). Would you be

so kind as to point me to it?

thanks

thessa

 

herbal remedies, " Ian Shillington N.D. "

<Dr.IanShillington@G...> wrote:

> Dear Thessa,

>

> First off, I wouldn't use cayenne in this mixture. You have

Lobelia in

> it which will bring down the itching and calm the skin. The cayenne

> would be used if you were trying to heat it up and it sounds as if

it is

> too hot already.

>

> This formula looks as if it would be dynamite (Never made it or

used it

> myself), and should do the trick for your friend.

> Like you, I also question the use of Mutton tallow and would use a

> combination of Organic Olive Oil and Bees Wax, in a larger quantity

than

> what is proposed to make up the difference. This formula should

handle

> the itching almost immediately.

>

> Since you are missing a few of the items, and are having a problem

> getting them, I'd use Slippery Elm Bark Powder in their place.

Slippery

> Elm Bark is very mucilaginous and by itself could handle the

condition.

> It is very soothing.

>

> If you are planning on using it on a cancerous growth, then make

sure

> you add enough Poke Root, Chaparral, and Red Clover Blossoms.

These are

> the 3 top cancer fighting herbs.

>

> My Total Draw Poultice Powder Formula (in the files) would also do

the

> trick with the cancerous growth and is simpler to make. However,

this

> requires Pharmaceutical Grade DMSO which may be very hard to find

over

> in Italia ???

>

> Whatever, don't let the lack of an ingredient or two stop you. Go

with

> what you have and I think you'll come out OK.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 505-772-5889

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

> -

> thessabelcher@h...

> herbal remedies

> Sunday, November 25, 2001 3:34 AM

> [herbal remedies] Help/advice on making this ointment

>

>

> Doc, I have a few questions if you don't mind. Of course I

> appreciate input from anyone else as well so please don't

hesitate.

>

> I am trying to make a drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory

> ointment. On page 354 in School for Natural Healing, there is a

> recipe for an ointment that sounds excellent. Unfortunately I

need

> to make it right now (in fact it's in the oven already, but still

> would like your thoughts/additions), and don't have the

ingredients.

> These are the ingredients (without directions) for the ointment in

> the book:

> 3 quarts mutton tallow

> 2 oz chickweed herb

> 2 oz comfrey root

> 2 oz marshmallow root

> 2 oz goldenseal root

> 2 oz lobelia herb w/seed

> 2 oz Kino (when possible)

> 1 oz Poke Root

> 2lbs beeswax

> 6 oz olive oil

> 2 ounces wheat germ oil

> 1 pint pine tar

>

> A question, can I use something besides mutton tallow (or animal

> prods)?

> This is what I ended up doing. As of yet I have not been able to

> find lobelia or goldenseal, and I need to get out and hunt for

> chickweed (seems like that's the one i really need!).

>

> 4oz marshmallow root (dried)

> 4oz burdock root (dried)

> 8oz comfrey (dried)

> Enough oil to cover thoroughly - about 4 parts olive oil, 1 part

> wheat germ oil. Cook in the oven for 2-3 hours at 82 degrees

> centigrade. When it's done cooking I will strain and melt a

couple

> of oz of beeswax.

>

> I immagine this will be somewhat effective, but can you give me an

> idea about how effective compared to doc christopher's recipe

above

> for example? for the drawing/healing/anti-itch/anti-inflammatory

> effects? The person who will be using it itches all over with

pain

> and minor swelling accompanying due to what we think is a release

of

> toxins through the skin as she has been juice fasting and cancer

> attacking for several months now. We would also like to put it on

a

> cancer growth that seems to be coming out quite nicely on it's own

> anyway (just not fast enough). I thought about adding cayenne,

but

> wasn't sure how that would go over since she already has a burning

> sensation all over. What do you think?

> Thanks so much for your time responders.

[Guest guest]

Just posted it about an hour ago hon. Hope you find it. Also placed it in the files.

 

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

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thessabelcher

herbal remedies

Saturday, December 01, 2001 10:13 AM

[herbal remedies] Re: Help/advice on making this ointment

Doc, thanks so much for the pointers. My off the hip ointment worked pretty well to relieve the itching and dryness, but the swelling still remains. I can't seem to find the recipe for the poultice powder that contains DMSO (only the melanoma recipe). Would you be so kind as to point me to it?thanksthessa