Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 Dear All, The purpose of opening up the list in regards open discussion on the WTC issue was to let people blow off steam, and act as a forum whereby members could vent their emotions and hopefully release some of their pent up charge (better than holding on to it and stewing in it). It's been an interesting exercise for some have felt that this action was an open invitation to vent their negativity as well, and keep stirring the pot and get the list riled up. The funny thing is, that under these circumstances and under the guise of "free speech", and "being understanding", and "I really am positive", and "I really do love everybody...", their negativity and covert destructiveness has really shone through the facade and their true colors have been revealed. Peela, a bit of a surprise but maybe not unexpected by some of you, went into overdrive on this and upset quite a few. She is banned as are a few others (including Sorcy for a second time who had rejoined a fair while ago under the pseudonym of "Phoenix") and who have been stirring the pot and deliberately creating upset while pretending to be 'open minded'. I didn't mean for you to have to put up with this for so long, but most of you know my schedule and how seldom I get to sit down at the ole puter. This has happened before, and it gives me a chance to clean house of the negative types (pretending to be positive) and then the list runs as smooth as a well oiled machine for quite a while until a few more Neggies filter in and I have to do it again. It's been tough enough with what happened last Tuesday to have to put up with this and I want to thank all of you for your patience and understanding. Please waste no tears or sympathy on the above Neggies, you'll notice there was no real sympathy coming from any of them, only destructive criticism and / or a covert (hidden) "put-down" of others. I banned them yesterday, and you'll notice the list has gone mostly back to normal today. Keep up the good work you positive bunch of good guys. I applaud you all. In Health and Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Dear Bobbi Sue, Thanks for trusting us with your deepest feelings. The thread is still open so don't worry there. An important thing to remember is that we truly do create our own feelings and there is always hope for the future. Life is in you today and our happiness for the future lies in our own hands. My solution for handling my own upset is to get busier than ever, and to contiune helping people. That's my hat in life, so I just do more of it. Hope this helps. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Bobbi Sue Bowers herbal remedies Monday, September 17, 2001 10:23 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Stirring the Pot Hello Everyone,Doc, I hope your post wasn't meant to end this thread. If so, I am sorryfor this post. I have been wanting to post something for a few days, butjust couldn't. I have been doing a lot of talking and listening. I amhoping that "writing" this will also help me deal with this and start thehealing process, though it will take a long time.I live in NJ within a 2 hour commute of NYC. Many people from the countyI live in work in NYC. Everyone I talk to has been affected in some way,either directly or indirectly. People now start conversations by askingif all is well in your family. Even now when I think of the stories I'veheard from people my eyes fill with tears, and some stories have been sogruesome I can't even think about them without becoming nauseous. Mydaughter who was just starting high school last week(after beinghomeschooled her whole life) has been deeply disturbed by this andwonders if she'll ever feel safe again. I have gone from shock to griefand back to shock again, all the while trying to help my kids deal withit. Everything else in life seems so trivial but it still needs to bedone. I have a hard time holding a "normal" conversation about anythingelse except with those close to me. I haven't really slept well all weekand it comes crashing in first thing in the morning. Now my griefcoexists with my fear for the future. Tonight is the beginning of RoshHashanah. I'm always wondering if it is over. And I have a 20 year oldson. I have an inner struggle that goes on constantly - I believe innonviolence, but I also know that something needs to be done(I amgrateful that I don't have to make those decisions).My resolve yesterday came to be that I needed to create as much"normalcy" in my family's life as possible, even if I am just goingthrough the motions. And, when I can, to be grateful and to feel joy indoing those "trivial" things simply because I still can.I have yet to feel any great anger, mostly just pain, grief, shock, andhelplessness. Even though I may not be able to help in a direct way I canlisten and help people in small ways, and most importantly I can pray. Iask all of you who believe in prayer to please pray for the victims, themissing who may still be alive, the injured, their families and friends,the rescue workers, our leaders, and our country.I have seen people bonding and pulling together in wonderful ways. It isbittersweet. I am grateful for the building of fellowship and community,but why did it have to take this to bring it about.Thanks for listening,Bobbi SueFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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