Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 The med stuff with this is just nuts, really. One MD I know is coauthoring a book on the Ritalin stuff. It should be out in press sometime this year. I did an experiment with my first baby boy. I didn't allow anyone to show him or have him see anything resembling guns on TV, movies, cartoons, books etc. I absolutely monitored him for the first few years to see what would happen with him. I monitored family conversations as well; it was an experiment and everyone was curious to see what would happen so they " humored " me. My family has guns though because of me having a sight problem, my household here didn't have any (and we still haven't any yet) and because my hubby hadn't been raised with them the way I had been, he had never pushed for us owning guns. So, was it the media or environment causing a boy to want to play with a gun? The interesting thing is that my older son at a year and a half old would take a hunk of foil and shape it to look like a gun (mind you, I was a very involved parent) and my son would grunt and make sound effects with the hunk of foil -that looked suspiciously like a gun. He explained to me that things were coming out of the foil (though he had no name for the foil) and were making that noise and then going XXX on something near by to make more noise. After he began this kind of play which seemed fun to him, (he said), the experiment was officially over...once he saw Star Wars, his sound effects became very refined and both my boys have the imitations down to an art...but back then, I was amazed that he was concocting in imagination what in all intents and purposes would be a gun - without any programming or influence to do so. Kids are sure fun to watch grow up....in the " let's-have-the-boys- able-to-play-with-dolls-too " experiment that said environment determines if boys can play " like girls " with a doll, we both built a doll from scratch together that was big enough to wear his old 18 month old clothes and baby booties. While he never played with it, he still loves it enough to keep it on a shelf (even after I offered to box it up and put it away, if he wished). Now mind you, both boys are excellent cooks so I am guessing that a good healthy appetite tipped the scales on roles there...hehe This kid thing is sure a precious experience ...and one I am glad I didn't have to miss out on ...and my boys are good sports to put up with my " experiments " while I continue to learn more about them.... Linda Lane Message: 5 Mon, 3 Sep 2001 11:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Michael Riversong <rivedu Re: ADHD Diagnosis Boys are diagnosed with ADHD much more often than girls -- about 2/3rds of the patients by many accounts. I graduated from high school in 1970. We were in a bad neighborhood, with enough affluent families to keep it from being a total poverty pocket. Yes, there were many boys, and a few girls, who disrupted school. At that time it was fashionable to phase out corporeal punishment in high school, so keeping control was very difficult. Then lots of kids started getting into smoking marijuana, and behavior problems diminished -- that particular drug made it a lot easier to sit still in a classroom. Maybe that's where the psychology creeps got the idea to systematically dope up kids. History shows that boys are always more disruptive than girls. That's just the way we're wired as humans. Every society has had to find a way to deal with this fact. You would not believe what some cultures have done to try and solve this problem of unattached young males disrupting everything. Prussians invented wars to send them off. Tewas made them live in special houses until they could talk some older woman into marrying them. A few New Guineans made them hunt heads. Some Native Americans send them off on vision quests. Thais have them shave their heads, wear yellow robes, and wander around begging for a while. Jews make them go through a Bar Mitzvah. I'm sure you can think of other examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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