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Dear Dawn,

I would sincerely sggest that you get the Save Your LIfe Videos from

Sam Biser tel 877 485 5004. These give a complete programme that you can

follow at home to help yourself..............Love Penny

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Dawn,

 

Would you please email me in private.

 

Thanks,

Jamie

spareribaz

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<dklenow

<herbal remedies >

Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:53 AM

[herbal remedies] Hoping you all can help me....

 

 

> Hi everyone. My name is Dawn and I'm a SAHM to 2 kids. My daughter is

> 5 (just started Kindergarten Tuesday--whoopie!) and my son is 3. I

> was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis when I was 12; I am

> 33 now. I have been on just about any drug you can think of for it at

> one time or another. Right now I am taking medrol (4 mg./day),

> celebrex (200 mg./day), and effexor (75 mg./day). Also ultram or

> tylenolas needed. I was taking some supplements until I got really

> sick nearly 2 weeks ago...I'll get to that in a moment. When I'm

> well, I also take 2 Citracal, a multivitamin, and glucosamine/

> chondroitin.

>

> I was also in the middle of a colon cleanse using a Herbal Healer

> Academy product called Colon Enhancer, until I got sick. This is the

> second time I've gotten some strange virus. Once about a year ago I

> had hot flashes along with restless BODY sydrome that lasted ALL day

> and night for about 4 days. I felt awful...told my rheumatologist

> about it and she said it was probably a virus that attacked my

> central nervous system and that if it came back she'd do some

> extensive testing. It didn't come back, thank God.

>

> But this last episode has been really bad. For about the first week I

> was sweaty all the time...not dripping sweat, but wet all over. No

> energy whatsoever, and sometimes my heartrate would be between 146-

> 150. Scared the beejeebers out of me. I was dizzy all the time and

> just felt generally horrible. I was tested for mono...came back

> negative. But the doc was concerned about my heart rate, so I had an

> EKG which came back with a slight abonormality on the right side

> (forgot what the doc said--something about seeing that commonly in

> younger people). I'm getting an echocardiogram done on the 31st. My

> energy is slowly coming back, but I still feel pretty awful. I fear I

> am going thru a nervous breakdown...I feel rage very easily these

> days, and I go from rage to tears very quickly! I have seriously

> thought about suicide on a few occassions, but can't bear to leave my

> children.

>

> I know there's gotta be something out there that can help me. And

> I've just about given up on the medical community. But I need to feel

> well because when I think about feeling like this for the rest of my

> life...well, I just can't. Can someone please give me some

> information on what to do to start feeling better? I'll gladly

> provide all the extra info you need to help me. Thanks for listening

> if you got this far ;) ...Dawn

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

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members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

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Hi Dawn, since no one has replied to you yet that I

have recieved , I thought I would say something.

Why not have a look in the files and get some ideas

and inspiration? I remember Doc Ian saying he gets

everyone, EVERYONE, to do the Total Body Cleanse first

and most of their problems disappear, even serious

ones. He is not around just now I dont think, but its

in the files. There aint going to be some simple herb

or one thing which is going to help. Or get those

videos people have been talkng about, the Schultze

videos. You cant patch it up, you have to start from

the bottom and work your way up, be thorough. But you

will definitely feel better.So many medications leaves

a lot of toxins and interactions.

Your case sounds so complex, but really naturopathy,

herbalism, natural helaing is very simple. You take

the gunk out of your body, dont put any more in, and

your body works better! When it goes out of balance,

you use herbs/ diet/ other things like hot/cold/

showers to bring it back into balance. But you have to

do the work first, and get the gunk out- cleanse.And

get your diet clean.

just some suggestions to get you going

love

Peela

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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within you guide your way on.

Traditional Blessing

 

 

 

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I replied with the info on Collagen II helping to clinically ascerbate the

problem and told her to check it out (in case noone else saw it either)!

 

Steve

-----------------------------

Hi Dawn, since no one has replied to you yet that I

have recieved , I thought I would say something.

Why not have a look in the files and get some ideas

and inspiration? I remember Doc Ian saying he gets

everyone, EVERYONE, to do the Total Body Cleanse first and most of their

problems disappear, even serious

ones. He is not around just now I dont think, but its

in the files. There aint going to be some simple herb

or one thing which is going to help. Or get those

videos people have been talkng about, the Schultze

videos. You cant patch it up, you have to start from

the bottom and work your way up, be thorough. But you

will definitely feel better.So many medications leaves

a lot of toxins and interactions.

Your case sounds so complex, but really naturopathy,

herbalism, natural helaing is very simple. You take

the gunk out of your body, dont put any more in, and

your body works better! When it goes out of balance,

you use herbs/ diet/ other things like hot/cold/

showers to bring it back into balance. But you have to

do the work first, and get the gunk out- cleanse.And

get your diet clean.

just some suggestions to get you going

love

Peela

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

=====

May the long time sun shine upon you, all love suround you, and the pure light

within you guide your way on.

Traditional Blessing

 

 

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This appears to be a difficult situation. The answer lies in lots of

education. And you will certainly find a lot of ideas and facts on this

list! The more you know, the more you can take control over your own

health. That makes people feel better right off.

 

The drugs you listed may be causing more harm than good. It's going to take

a while to untangle that mess, because none of these should be discontinued

suddenly. Effexor is extremely dangerous, and has been implicated in some

violent incidents recently. If you're getting off any drug, get unhooked

from that one first -- but GRADUALLY! Celebrex is very controversial right

now, and it's not certain that it has long-term effectiveness. I don't know

anything about Medrol.

 

Tylenol can affect the kidneys. There have been a few instances here and

there of people having sudden kidney failure from this.

 

I don't tend to trust Citracal, because the calcium in that formula does not

appear to be well balanced with other minerals. (At least its calcium is

more easily metabolized than many other prominent brands.) Most of the

prominent calcium supplements found in drugstores have serious problems. It

is generally better to search, and find calcium that's well balanced with

magnesium and other minerals. Actually in my experience each person has to

experiment a while to find the ideal calcium supplement.

 

Water intake is a big problem. Many people with chronic rheumatoid

arthritis are not drinking enough. You would do well to search your memory

for times when there were significant variations in water intake, and see if

those times correlate with changes in your condition.

 

Rage, depression, and suicidal feelings are best regarded as spiritual

problems. These days, that's not given enough attention. And of course

there are a few folks out there who can infiltrate a church and get half the

congregation well on the way to a nervous breakdown. It is very important,

especially in a situation like this, to carefully consider any spiritual

data you're given, see if it squares with what you know to be totally right,

and refuse to rely on interpretations from anyone else.

 

At 01:53 PM 8/30/01 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi everyone. My name is Dawn and I'm a SAHM to 2 kids. My daughter is

>5 (just started Kindergarten Tuesday--whoopie!) and my son is 3. I

>was diagnosed with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis when I was 12; I am

>33 now. I have been on just about any drug you can think of for it at

>one time or another. Right now I am taking medrol (4 mg./day),

>celebrex (200 mg./day), and effexor (75 mg./day). Also ultram or

>tylenolas needed. I was taking some supplements until I got really

>sick nearly 2 weeks ago...I'll get to that in a moment. When I'm

>well, I also take 2 Citracal, a multivitamin, and glucosamine/

>chondroitin.

>

>I was also in the middle of a colon cleanse using a Herbal Healer

>Academy product called Colon Enhancer, until I got sick. This is the

>second time I've gotten some strange virus. Once about a year ago I

>had hot flashes along with restless BODY sydrome that lasted ALL day

>and night for about 4 days. I felt awful...told my rheumatologist

>about it and she said it was probably a virus that attacked my

>central nervous system and that if it came back she'd do some

>extensive testing. It didn't come back, thank God.

>

>But this last episode has been really bad. For about the first week I

>was sweaty all the time...not dripping sweat, but wet all over. No

>energy whatsoever, and sometimes my heartrate would be between 146-

>150. Scared the beejeebers out of me. I was dizzy all the time and

>just felt generally horrible. I was tested for mono...came back

>negative. But the doc was concerned about my heart rate, so I had an

>EKG which came back with a slight abonormality on the right side

>(forgot what the doc said--something about seeing that commonly in

>younger people). I'm getting an echocardiogram done on the 31st. My

>energy is slowly coming back, but I still feel pretty awful. I fear I

>am going thru a nervous breakdown...I feel rage very easily these

>days, and I go from rage to tears very quickly! I have seriously

>thought about suicide on a few occassions, but can't bear to leave my

>children.

>

>I know there's gotta be something out there that can help me. And

>I've just about given up on the medical community. But I need to feel

>well because when I think about feeling like this for the rest of my

>life...well, I just can't. Can someone please give me some

>information on what to do to start feeling better? I'll gladly

>provide all the extra info you need to help me. Thanks for listening

>if you got this far ;) ...Dawn

>

>

-- Michael Riversong **

Professional Harpist, Educator, and Writer **

RivEdu ** Phone: (307)635-0900 FAX (413)691-0399

http://home.earthlink.net/~mriversong

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Calcium hydroxyapatite is the calcium that i was trying to think of (many posts

ago) when the subject was about " the only calcium supplement that not only has

been shown to stop osteoporosis, but reverse it " as it matches the bone matrix

form of calcium; though I'm sure it's expensive compared to most of what's out

there!

\

\In Health,

Steve

-----------------------------

This appears to be a difficult situation. The answer lies in lots of education.

And you will certainly find a lot of ideas and facts on this list! The more you

know, the more you can take control over your own health. That makes people

feel better right off.

 

The drugs you listed may be causing more harm than good. It's going to take a

while to untangle that mess, because none of these should be discontinued

suddenly. Effexor is extremely dangerous, and has been implicated in some

violent incidents recently. If you're getting off any drug, get unhooked from

that one first -- but GRADUALLY! Celebrex is very controversial right now, and

it's not certain that it has long-term effectiveness. I don't know anything

about Medrol.

 

Tylenol can affect the kidneys. There have been a few instances here and there

of people having sudden kidney failure from this.

 

I don't tend to trust Citracal, because the calcium in that formula does not

appear to be well balanced with other minerals. (At least its calcium is more

easily metabolized than many other prominent brands.) Most of the prominent

calcium supplements found in drugstores have serious problems. It is generally

better to search, and find calcium that's well balanced with magnesium and other

minerals. Actually in my experience each person has to experiment a while to

find the ideal calcium supplement.

 

Water intake is a big problem. Many people with chronic rheumatoid arthritis

are not drinking enough. You would do well to search your memory for times when

there were significant variations in water intake, and see if those times

correlate with changes in your condition.

 

Rage, depression, and suicidal feelings are best regarded as spiritual problems.

These days, that's not given enough attention. And of course there are a few

folks out there who can infiltrate a church and get half the congregation well

on the way to a nervous breakdown. It is very important, especially in a

situation like this, to carefully consider any spiritual data you're given, see

if it squares with what you know to be totally right, and refuse to rely on

interpretations from anyone else.

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Dawn,

Do you meditate..... I mean do you find that quiet place within yourself to talk with God. He can help you if you reach out to him and give him your problems. You don't need to carry these problems by yourself. I agree with Michael about getting off the drugs gradually and one at at time.. I would suggest calling Doc and having a chat with him. Suzi

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