Guest guest Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Hi Bren, Start drinking fresh lemon juice and organic apple cider vinegar. The acid will assist in dissolving the stones along with the herbs you are using. You can also add in parsley root tea and parsley leaf tea as well. These are both very good for the kidneys. Keep us posted and let us know how you are doing. Don Quai ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release 21.1.03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Cranberry juice would be good for this. Also lots of water like you said. Sharon - Pat Patelos Friday, February 04, 2005 2:21 PM kidney stones We have a girl in our office, andother health food freak like me that thinks she may have kidney stones, because of the severe pain in her lright back. She prefers not to be medicated by a doctor. Does anyone in the group have a good heathy remedy to help pass kidney stones? I sugested celery and celery seed and drinking lots of water. Any help would be appreciated. You can email me at ppatelosPat Patelos in Raleigh, NC«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.**COPYRIGHT NOTICE**In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Try the Royal Breakstone tea --it is a Peruvian herb called Chanca Piedra available through Whole world Botanicals http://www.wholeworldbotanicals.com You can also get the capsules, but the tea is more effective. It worked for my husband, and we drink it preventively now. It tastes fine, just like regular tea. It is a whole lot better than a kidney stone attack - it breaks down the stones into fine gravel, and if you don't have stones it will cleanse and detoxify the urinary system. Other than that, I recommend your friend see a chiropractor who does low- or light-force work as well. Lil Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release 2/3/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 From Dr. Hulda Clark's books. Here's one on-line, her "Cure for all Diseases" http://www.royalrife.com/cure.html Kidney Cleanse ½ cup dried Hydrangea root ½ cup Gravel root ½ cup Marshmallow root 4 bunches of fresh parsley Goldenrod tincture (leave this out of the recipe if you are allergic to it) Ginger capsules Uva Ursi capsules Vegetable glycerin Black Cherry Concentrate, 8 oz Vitamin B6, 250 mg Magnesium oxide tablets, 300 mg Measure ¼ cup of each root and set them to soak, together in 10 cups of cold tap water, using a non-metal container and a non-metal lid (a dinner plate will do). After four hours (or overnight) add 8 oz. black cherry concentrate, heat to boiling and simmer for 20 minutes. Drink ¼ cup as soon as it is cool enough. Pour the rest through a bamboo strainer into a sterile pint jar (glass) and several freezable containers. Refrigerate the glass jar. Boil the fresh parsley, after rinsing, in 1 quart of water for 3 minutes. Drink ¼ cup when cool enough. Refrigerate a pint and freeze 1 pint. Throw away the parsley. Dose: each morning, pour together ¾ cup of the root mixture and ½ cup parsley water, filling a large mug. Add 20 drops of goldenrod tincture and 1 tbs. of glycerin. Drink this mixture in divided doses throughout the day. Keep cold. Do not drink it all at once or you will get a stomach ache and feel pressure in your bladder. If your stomach is very sensitive, start on half this dose. Save the roots after the first boiling, storing them in the freezer. After 13 days when your supply runs low, boil the same roots a second time, but add only 6 cups water and simmer only 10 minutes. This will last another 8 days, for a total of three weeks. You may cook the roots a third time if you wish, but the recipe gets less potent. If your problem is severe, only cook them twice. After three weeks, repeat with fresh herbs. You need to do the Kidney Cleanse for six weeks to get good results, longer for severe problems. Also take: • Ginger capsules: one with each meal (3/day). • Uva Ursi capsules: one with breakfast and two with supper. • Vitamin B6 (250 mg): one a day. • Magnesium oxide (300 mg): one a day. Take these supplements just before your meal to avoid burping. Some notes on this recipe: this herbal tea, as well as the parsley, can easily spoil. Heat it to boiling every fourth day if it is being stored in the refrigerator; this resterilizes it. If you sterilize it in the morning you may take it to work without refrigerating it (use a glass container). When you order your herbs, be careful! Herb companies are not the same! These roots should have a strong fragrance. If the ones you buy are barely fragrant, they have lost their active ingredients; switch to a different supplier. Fresh roots can be used. Do not use powder. • Hydrangea (Hydrangea arborescens) is a common flowering bush. • Gravel root (Eupatorium purpureum) is a wild flower. • Marshmallow root (Althea officinalis) is mucilaginous and kills pain. • Fresh parsley can be bought at a grocery store. Parsley flakes and dried parsley herb do not work. • Goldenrod herb works as well as the tincture but you may get an allergic reaction from smelling the herb. If you know you are allergic to this, leave this one out of your recipe. • Ginger from the grocery store works fine; you may put it into capsules for yourself (size 0, 1 or 00). There are probably dozens of herbs that can dissolve kidney crystals and stones. If you can only find several of those in the recipe, make the recipe anyway; it will just take longer to get results. Remember that vitamin B6 and magnesium, taken daily, can prevent oxalate stones from forming. But only if you stop drinking tea. Tea has 15.6 mg oxalic acid per cup[1][37]. A tall glass of iced tea could give you over 20 mg oxalic acid. Switch to herb teas. Cocoa and chocolate, also, have too much oxalic acid to be used as beverages. Remember, too, that phosphate crystals are made when you eat too much phosphate. Phosphate levels are high in meats, breads, cereals, pastas, and carbonated drinks. Eat less of these, and increase your milk (2%), fruits and vegetables. Drink at least 2 pints of water a day. Cleanse your kidneys at least twice a year. You can dissolve all your kidney stones in 3 weeks, but make new ones in 3 days if you are drinking tea and cocoa and phosphated beverages. None of the beverage recipes in this chapter are conducive to stone formation. Liver Cleanse http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html Cleansing the liver of gallstones dramatically improves digestion, which is the basis of your whole health. You can expect your allergies to disappear, too, more with each cleanse you do! Incredibly, it also eliminates shoulder, upper arm, and upper back pain. You have more energy and increased sense of well being. Cleaning the liver bile ducts is the most powerful procedure that you can do to improve your body's health. But it should not be done before the parasite program, and for best results should follow the kidney cleanse and any dental work you need. It is the job of the liver to make bile, 1 to l½ quarts in a day! The liver is full of tubes (biliary tubing) that deliver the bile to one large tube (the common bile duct). The gallbladder is attached to the common bile duct and acts as a storage reservoir. Eating fat or protein triggers the gallbladder to squeeze itself empty after about twenty minutes, and the stored bile finishes its trip down the common bile duct to the intestine. For many persons, including children, the biliary tubing is choked with gallstones. Some develop allergies or hives but some have no symptoms. When the gallbladder is scanned or X-rayed nothing is seen. Typically, they are not in the gallbladder. Not only that, most are too small and not calcified, a prerequisite for visibility on X-ray. There are over half a dozen varieties of gallstones, most of which have cholesterol crystals in them. They can be black, red, white, green or tan colored. The green ones get their color from being coated with bile. Notice in the picture how many have imbedded unidentified objects. Are they fluke remains? Notice how many are shaped like corks with longitudinal grooves below the tops. We can visualize the blocked bile ducts from such shapes. Other stones are composites—made of many smaller ones—showing that they regrouped in the bile ducts some time after the last cleanse. At the very center of each stone is found a clump of bacteria, according to scientists, suggesting a dead bit of parasite might have started the stone forming. As the stones grow and become more numerous the back pressure on the liver causes it to make less bile. Imagine the situation if your garden hose had marbles in it. Much less water would flow, which in turn would decrease the ability of the hose to squirt out the marbles. With gallstones, much less cholesterol leaves the body, and cholesterol levels may rise. Gallstones, being porous, can pick up all the bacteria, cysts, viruses and parasites that are passing through the liver. In this way “nests” of infection are formed, forever supplying the body with fresh bacteria. No stomach infection such as ulcers or intestinal bloating can be cured permanently without removing these gallstones from the liver. Cleanse your liver twice a year. Preparation. • You can't clean a liver with living parasites in it. You won't get many stones, and you will feel quite sick. Zap daily the week before, or get through the first three weeks of the parasite killing program before attempting a liver cleanse. If you are on the maintenance parasite program, you are always ready to do the cleanse. • Completing the kidney cleanse before cleansing the liver is also highly recommended. You want your kidneys, bladder and urinary tract in top working condition so they can efficiently remove any undesirable substances incidentally absorbed from the intestine as the bile is being excreted. • Do any dental work first, if possible. Your mouth should be metal free and bacteria free (cavitations are cleaned). A toxic mouth can put a heavy load on the liver, burdening it immediately after cleansing. Eliminate that problem first for best results. Ingredients Epsom salts 4 tablespoons Olive oil half cup (light olive oil is easier to get down) Fresh pink grapefruit 1 large or 2 small, enough to squeeze 2/3 to 3/4 cup juice Ornithine 4 to 8, to be sure you can sleep. Don't skip this or you may have the worst night of your life! Large plastic straw To help drink potion. Pint jar with lid Choose a day like Saturday for the cleanse, since you will be able to rest the next day. Take no medicines, vitamins or pills that you can do without; they could prevent success. Stop the parasite program and kidney herbs, too, the day before. Eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch such as cooked cereal with fruit, fruit juice, bread and preserves or honey (no butter or milk), baked potato or other vegetables with salt only. This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones. 2:00 PM. Do not eat or drink after 2 o'clock. If you break this rule you could feel quite ill later. Get your Epsom salts ready. Mix 4 tbs. in 3 cups water and pour this into a jar. This makes four servings, ¾ cup each. Set the jar in the refrigerator to get ice cold (this is for convenience and taste only). 6:00 PM. Drink one serving (¾ cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts. If you did not prepare this ahead of time, mix 1 tbs. in ¾ cup water now. You may add 1/8 tsp. vitamin C powder to improve the taste. You may also drink a few mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth. Get the olive oil and grapefruit out to warm up. 8:00 PM. Repeat by drinking another ¾ cup of Epsom salts. You haven't eaten since two o'clock, but you won't feel hungry. Get your bedtime chores done. The timing is critical for success; don't be more than 10 minutes early or late. 9:45 PM. Pour ½ cup (measured) olive oil into the pint jar. Squeeze the grapefruit by hand into the measuring cup. Remove pulp with fork. You should have at least ½ cup, more (up to ¾ cup) is best. You may top it up with lemonade. Add this to the olive oil. Close the jar tightly with the lid and shake hard until watery (only fresh grapefruit juice does this). Now visit the bathroom one or more times, even if it makes you late for your ten o'clock drink. Don't be more than 15 minutes late. 10:00 PM. Drink the potion you have mixed. Take 4 ornithine capsules with the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. Take 8 if you already suffer from insomnia. Drinking through a large plastic straw helps it go down easier. You may use ketchup, cinnamon, or brown sugar to chase it down between sips. Take it to your bedside if you want, but drink it standing up. Get it down within 5 minutes (fifteen minutes for very elderly or weak persons). Lie down immediately. You might fail to get stones out if you don't. The sooner you lie down the mote stones you will get out. Be ready for bed ahead of time. Don't clean up the kitchen. As soon as the drink is down walk to your bed and lie down flat on your back with your head up high on the pillow. Try to think about what is happening in the liver. Try to keep perfectly still for at least 20 minutes. You may feel a train of stones traveling along the bile ducts like marbles. There is no pain because the bile duct valves are open (thank you Epsom salts!). Go to sleep, you may fail to get stones out if you don't. Next morning. Upon awakening take your third dose of Epsom salts. If you have indigestion or nausea wait until it is gone before drinking the Epsom salts. You may go back to bed. Don't take this potion before 6:00 am. 2 Hours Later. Take your fourth (the last) dose of Epsom salts. Drink ¾ cup of the mixture. You may go back to bed. After 2 More Hours you may eat. Start with fruit juice. Half an hour later eat fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light. By supper you should feel recovered. How well did you do? Expect diarrhea in the morning. Use a flashlight to look for gallstones in the toilet with the bowel movement. Look for the green kind since this is proof that they are genuine gallstones, not food residue. Only bile from the liver is pea green. The bowel movement sinks but gallstones float because of the cholesterol inside. Count them all roughly, whether tan or green. You will need to total 2000 stones before the liver is clean enough to rid you of allergies or bursitis or upper back pains permanently. The first cleanse may rid you of them for a few days, but as the stones from the rear travel forward, they give you the same symptoms again. You may repeat cleanses at two week intervals. Never cleanse when you are ill. Sometimes the bile ducts are full of cholesterol crystals that did not form into round stones. They appear as a “chaff” floating on top of the toilet bowl water. It may be tan colored, harboring millions of tiny white crystals. Cleansing this chaff is just as important as purging stones. How safe is the liver cleanse? It is very safe. My opinion is based on over 500 cases, including many persons in their seventies and eighties. None went to the hospital; none even reported pain. However it can make you feel quite ill for one or two days afterwards, although in every one of these cases the maintenance parasite program had been neglected. This is why the instructions direct you to complete the parasite and kidney rinse programs first. CONGRATULATIONS You have taken out your gallstones without surgery! I like to think I have perfected this recipe, but I certainly can not take credit for its origin. It was invented hundreds, if not thousands, of years ago, THANK YOU, HERBALISTS! Pat Patelos [ppatelos] Friday, February 04, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: kidney stonesWe have a girl in our office, andother health food freak like me that thinks she may have kidney stones, because of the severe pain in her lright back. She prefers not to be medicated by a doctor. Does anyone in the group have a good heathy remedy to help pass kidney stones? I sugested celery and celery seed and drinking lots of water. Any help would be appreciated. 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Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 could be a clogged or enlarged colon that is placing pressure on a nerve back there. Has this -health nut- cleansed the colon before taken any of the bulking fibers before? --- Pat Patelos <ppatelos wrote: > > We have a girl in our office, andother health food > freak like me that > thinks she may have kidney stones, because of the > severe pain in her > lright back. She prefers not to be medicated by a > doctor. Does anyone > in the group have a good heathy remedy to help pass > kidney stones? I > sugested celery and celery seed and drinking lots of > water. Any help > would be appreciated. You can email me at > ppatelos > Pat Patelos in Raleigh, NC > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Thanks, I'll pass it on. Pat - mike man Monday, February 07, 2005 9:38 AM Re: kidney stones could be a clogged or enlarged colon that is placingpressure on a nerve back there. Has this -health nut-cleansed the colon before taken any of the bulkingfibers before?--- Pat Patelos <ppatelos wrote:> > We have a girl in our office, andother health food> freak like me that > thinks she may have kidney stones, because of the> severe pain in her > lright back. She prefers not to be medicated by a> doctor. Does anyone > in the group have a good heathy remedy to help pass> kidney stones? I > sugested celery and celery seed and drinking lots of> water. Any help > would be appreciated. You can email me at> ppatelos Pat Patelos in Raleigh, NC> > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.**COPYRIGHT NOTICE**In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 " PATRICK PATELOS " <ppatelos Thanks, I'll pass it on. Pat ----------- LOLOLOL – that just struck my funny bone – the subject “kidney stones”, and Pat saying “I’ll pass it on” ………… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 post here your conversations with this person the group members would appreciate it very well. --- PATRICK PATELOS <ppatelos wrote: > Thanks, I'll pass it on. > > Pat > - > mike man > > Monday, February 07, 2005 9:38 AM > Re: kidney stones > > > could be a clogged or enlarged colon that is > placing > pressure on a nerve back there. Has this -health > nut- > cleansed the colon before taken any of the > bulking > fibers before? > --- Pat Patelos <ppatelos > wrote: > > > > > We have a girl in our office, andother health > food > > freak like me that > > thinks she may have kidney stones, because of > the > > severe pain in her > > lright back. She prefers not to be medicated by > a > > doctor. Does anyone > > in the group have a good heathy remedy to help > pass > > kidney stones? I > > sugested celery and celery seed and drinking > lots of > > water. Any help > > would be appreciated. You can email me at > > ppatelos > > Pat Patelos in Raleigh, NC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail > SpamGuard. > > > > > «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» > > § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH > CONSPIRACIES! § > > Subscribe:......... > - > To :.... > - > > Any information here in is for educational purpose > only, it may be news related, purely speculation or > someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified > health practitioner before deciding on any course of > treatment, especially for serious or > life-threatening illnesses. > **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, > any copyrighted work in this message is > distributed under fair use without profit or payment > to those who have expressed a prior interest in > receiving the included information for non-profit > research and educational purposes only. > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Thanks Carol. I did not catch my funny myself. That's cool you found it. Pat Patelos - Carol Minnick Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:19 AM Re: kidney stones "PATRICK PATELOS" <ppatelos Thanks, I'll pass it on. Pat ----------- LOLOLOL – that just struck my funny bone – the subject “kidney stones”, and Pat saying “I’ll pass it on” …………«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§ - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! §Subscribe:......... - To :.... - Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.**COPYRIGHT NOTICE**In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107,any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Dale is a 50 year old male, who has had kidney stones since he was 14. He has constant back pain, bloating,vomiting and problems when he urninates. Everytime the doctor changes his diet or medicine, the kidney stones change. He has had every type of stone possible. The doctors have tried to crush the stones, which almost ruptured the kidney. He has had one stone removed by cutting into the right kidney and he has had over 100 systoscopies. The doctors give him pain pills but they do not help very much anymore. We are looking for other possible answers to stop the pain and kidney stones. Can you help? Your insights are appreciated Wayne http://www.HolisticWebDirectory.com ========== List YOUR services online http://www.123relax.com/listserv.html ========== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Wayne, Has Dale ever heard of the herb Chanca Piedra? It literally means stone crusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 ---hi edgar cayce dealt a lot with kydney stones , diet etc would point you in that direction . 2 books i would not be without also the cayce centre will probably have a file ont his complaint also Spiritual Healing /Reiki healing Spiritual healing/ reiki to many people conjures up so many images and meanings, for those who do not know what it is all about, all that I would ask is that you approach the subject with an open unprejudiced mind and with a wish to explore and evaluate the evidence carefully and properly. It is hoped with such an attitude truth will prevail and misconceptions from misguided people will be put in their rightful place. From the outset it must be clearly understood that we live on a planet of causes and effects, every thing seen on this planet has a cause and an effect. We live in and are surrounded by all sorts of effects like wind blowing from the north or a light shining from a star or a leaf growing on a tree or wealth, health,suffering,Happiness,Love,Sound,lightning,Music in fact everything we see, feel, touch, smell, all have causes. Magic is the name simply applied to happenings where no obvious cause can be seen, at least to some of those witnessing it.As you can easily appreciate no effect is without a cause. We are know witnessing one of the great turnings in our century where old healing practises are re-emerging such as Reiki healing, Colour healing, Seichim, Spiritual healing, Osteopathy, Massage and many others. Some of these are thousands of years old, Spiritual healing/reiki is one of those. It is exactly the same kind of energy used by Jesus in so many of his healings. Put simply Spiritual Healing/Reiki is the transference of certain energies through a channel which could be a person or an animal or even the planet, the wavelengths of this healing energy are well outside the limits of most scientific equipment but a lot of people can feel this energy . The energy in my experience has been very uplifting and beautiful which can touch and vastly influence parts of us such as the spirit or soul or our mental selves and our physical selves. It can bring a steadiness and balance and sense of well-being second to none .Its limits as to its use are in the realms of the infinite. A very simplistic analogy would be to liken it to a massive energy reservoir which can be tapped into by people and animals which act as the conduits of this energy and like wires of electricity some of which are bigger than others and so therefore big wires can transmit more energy than smaller wires. Bearing this point in mind the reader can soon appreciate that going to one spiritual healer , Reiki healer can be vastly different than going to another as it is with so many things whether it be dentists, doctors, policeman or what have you. Spiritual Healing, Reiki is natural healing energy, which is present in this universe. Spiritual healers and Reiki work in many different ways to some it is the laying on of hands onto a person or animal, to others it can be sent through the power of thought. To be even in the presence of some healers can have a profound and beneficial effect on people and one wishes that there were more people giving off just as beautiful vibrations as these people were this world would truly transform it. Everyone needs healing, because there is not a single person which on some part of their being does not require healing. I will clarify that point further because some people are so physically orientated they perceive people and their suffering on a basis of you look OK you must be OK. This perception can be likened to looking at a puddle of water and because it looks all right and then assuming that because the rest of the ocean is made of the same kind of stuff it must be the same, being absolutely oblivious to the rest of the entire ocean. We are a very complicated beings comprising of many different parts some of which are the mental self, the subconscious, the Physical self and the spiritual self. I will leave it up to the reader to discover the parts of themselves and their true importance to their well beings. During the healing process as a general rule people should simply relax, all sorts of sensations may be felt typically heat, cold, energy, sometimes even noises from your body. Who is suitable for healing? All people at all stages of their life especially the terminally ill;Animals even plants seem to respond. Will one session be enough? Sometimes but probably a series may be the answer. Will healing cure me? All healing from all sources be it Doctor, drugs, etc comes under the law of Karma. There are no guarantees that healing from any source may give the effect which the Desiree wishes. However it has been my experience that even if you do not get the effect you desire, on some part of your being you most very probably will receive some healing, even it is just upliftment. Which can be extremely valuable Harry Edwards was one such channel who was told to concentrate on the next person he hears about who is sick. A case arrived one who had TB who was dying .He concentrated on that person with his mind and within 24 hrs the bleeding had stopped the pain had stopped and the temperature had come down to almost normal. The Doctors attending were amazed, the man returned to work in a short time. More cases followed, people came with Cancer, Consumption and other blights. Of notable healing was a boy with Spinal Meningitis and who was dying. Harry sought healing for the boy and within a short period of time the boy's parents were astonished to find their boy sitting up in bed, the doctors looking on in amazement. A growing queue was starting to form at his house and mail started to arrive. But what truly amazed harry was the use of Absent healing where the healing was sent by thought, the patient was not even present but it seemed even more effective. To cope with the growing demands of his work he set up a healing sanctuary at Burrows lea in surrey and his secretaries started answering the hundreds of letters which came each day. He was in constant demand to give talks all over England. Then on one day he had the great urge to demonstrate what he could do before an audience ``is there anyone suffering from Arthritis''? he asked. Hands shot up from all over the auditorium, which started off the public healing. The demonstrations grew, a thousand people attended a demonstration at Croydon and typically Harry would treat Arthritis, Spinal curvature, Deafness and poor sight. One lady who had not been able to walk for three years was given healing, after a few minutes of healing she walked down the aisle much to the audience's delight. A child of six had her spinal curvature straightened much to people's amazement. Gradually over the years of healing he drew together the letters and testimonials and presented them in an incredible book called The evidence for Spiritual Healing which contained ten thousand cures, yes that's right ten thousand . Newspapers captured the signs with headlines like `'Sight restored after seventeen years'' `'the Deaf hear'' `'After healing the cripple danced'' `'Paralysed children walk off the stage unaided''and so on. He would make the point quite clear that Spiritual Healing was not faith healing and if it were so young babies and mental cases with no comprehension about faith would not even respond. On another occasion Harry was called before a panel of Doctors who presented him with their very own patients. The first patient had Disseminated Sclerosis and came in with two helpers. On the first treatment mobility was restored to the spastic spine then co- ordination of the leg movements followed, she responded well and started to walk, the session ended with the Doctors asking for healing for their own personal troubles. Then royalty sought him out Princess Marie Louise granddaughter of Queen Victoria sought healing for Arthritis and she was instrumental in the royals attending the sanctuary. In less than five years Harry had received no less than one million letters and in less than seven years over forty thousand people attended the sanctuary. In the thirty years from the time he moved to Burrows lea up to his passing in 1976 he received an average of 9000 letters a week .In over thirty years he received over 14 million letters from patients. Harry passed to the other side of life in 1976 but not before teaching Ray and Joan branch how to continue with the good work at Burrows lea where they still are today. Happily now Spiritual healers are used quite extensively in the N.H.S, in fact they are in over 1500 hospitals and at long last a lot of churches have finally complied with what the master told them to do two thousand years ago and that is to go forth and heal the sick. In the year 2000 even our prince Charles published a report stating that spiritual healers should be extensively available throughout the entire NHS. Over 7000 healers are now registered to treat patients in the health system. I know of no cases where spiritual healing when given by a trained healer has been detrimental in any way, I know of no side effects except better health. Just a few reports – " When I had finished treating him, it was a real delight to see how wonderfully glad he was to be able to use his legs, feet, arms and hands again... and then he told me: " When I came here, I was convinced no one could help me, and I came only to please my Aunt, who brought me. " You worked a miracle with his father when he was very ill 1983-84 when I wrote to you, but you will be pleased to know he is now working for the Council and lives a fairly normal life. " You and the late Harry Edwards helped me so often and indeed I am still pressing on 18 years after I was expected to die from my last bout of cancer. " " On behalf of my mother, daughter and myself may I thank you for the lovely day at your Sanctuary last Tuesday. My mother is so much better it is truly amazing. She can stretch out her arms and even raise them to her head and her walking is much stronger. My daughter was very impressed, too. " My condition improved in as much as I now have much more self- confidence and ability to deal with my everyday life. Reiki, Millions of people are aware of this fantastic healing energy and there are literally thousands of healers [channels for this energy]. The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words - Rei which means " God's Wisdom or the Higher Power " and Ki which is " life force energy " . So Reiki is actually " spiritually guided life force energy. " A treatment feels like a wonderful glowing radiance that flows through and around you. Reiki treats the person including body, emotions, mind and spirit and creates many beneficial effects including relaxation and feelings of peace, security and well being. Many have reported miraculous results. Reiki is a simple, natural and safe method of spiritual healing and self-improvement that a lot of people can use. It has been effective in helping virtually every known illness and malady and can create a very beneficial effect. It also works in conjunction with all other medical or therapeutic techniques sometimes to relieve side effects and promote recovery. An amazingly simple technique to learn, the ability to use Reiki is not taught in the usual sense, but is transferred to the student during a Reiki class. This ability is passed on during an " attunement " given by a Reiki master and allows the student to tap into an unlimited supply of " life force energy " to improve one's health and enhance the quality of life. It has been successfully taught to thousands of people of all ages and backgrounds. The Reiki system of healing is a technique for transmitting this subtle energy to yourself and others. Reiki can restore energy balance and vitality by relieving the physical and emotional effects of unreleased stress. It can gently and effectively open blocked meridians, nadas and chakras, and clears the energy bodies, leaving one feeling relaxed and at peace. Reiki can accelerate healing. Assist the body in cleansing toxins. Balance the flow of subtle energy by releasing blockages. Help the client contact the 'healer within.' A treatment feels like warm, gentle sunshine, which flows through you, surrounds you and comforts you. Reiki treats the person's body, emotions, mind and spirit as a whole. Reiki is a simple, natural and safe method of spiritual healing and self-improvement that most people can use. Reiki is powerful, yet wonderfully gentle and nurturing. During a treatment, the clients usually remain fully clothed. Reiki is an effective alternative, or complement to massage therapy. Reiki can support any medical or supplemental healing methods a client may be using and is of growing interest to chiropractors, medical doctors, physiotherapists, psychotherapists, psychologists and hypnotherapists. In fact it is in use by quite a few doctors. A Brief History of Reiki. The history of Reiki, like all other histories, is tainted with different views of the one event. Reiki is seemingly an ancient form of healing that was lost and then rediscovered, during a mystical experience, by Dr. Mikao Usui who was a Japanese psychic. In 1922 Dr. Usui started a healing society in Japan. He created three degrees (or levels) for Reiki healing and initiated a small number of followers. One of his followers, Dr. Hayashi, a retired naval officer, was charged with preserving Reiki. He did this and further developed the Usui system. He gave the knowledge to his wife and to Mrs. Hawayo Takata. Mrs. Takata practiced Reiki healing and initiated twenty-two people into Reiki mastership Today, Reiki is known and practiced in many parts of the world and is increasing in popularity and acceptance. One problem a student might have in learning Reiki is the existence of different Reiki schools, giving different attitudes and different symbols by different teachers. All that is required is a genuine desire for spiritual growth and an open mind. Reiki Research There are now quite a few experiments that validate the usefulness of Reiki and other vibrational healing techniques. The following are few of the more interesting experiments. A registered nurse describes a Reiki experiment she conducted in her paper, " Reiki Healing: A Physiologic Perspective. " In her study, forty-eight people made up the experimental group while 10 made up a control group. Both groups had blood samples taken at the beginning and at the end of the experiment. The experimental group received First Degree Reiki training. The control group was not involved in the Reiki training. The blood samples were measured for hemoglobin and hematocrit values. Hemoglobin is the part of red blood cells that carry oxygen. Hematocrit is the ratio of red blood cells to total blood volume. The people in the experimental group who received Reiki training experienced a significant change in these values with 28 percent experiencing an increase and the remainder experiencing a decrease. The people in the control group who did not receive Reiki training experienced no significant change. It is thought that changes, whether an increase or decrease are consistent with the purpose of Reiki which is to bring balance on an individual basis. One individual experienced a 20% increase in these values. She continued to treat herself with Reiki daily and after three months, her increase had been maintained and in fact had continued to improve. This improvement was appropriate for her as she had been experiencing iron deficiency anemia. Another experiment using a Reiki like technique has also demonstrated its ability to increase hemoglobin values. A medical doctor conducted an experiment with a group of 79 sick patients. Together the patients had a wide range of diagnosed illnesses including pancreatitis, brain tumor, emphysema, multiple endocrine disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, and congestive heart failure. Laying-on hands treatments were given to 46 patients with 33 as controls. The treated patients showed significant increases in hemoglobin values. The effect was so pronounced that even cancer patients who were being treated with bone marrow-suppressive agents which predictably induce decreases in hemoglobin values showed an increase. The majority of patients also reported improvement or complete disappearance of symptoms. Both this experiment and the one above, demonstrate that healers are able to induce actual biological improvements in the patients they treat rather than simply create a feeling of well being. Laying-on hands healing has been validated by experiments carried out at St. Vincent's medical Center in New York. The experiment was carried out by Janet Quinn, assistant director of nursing at the University of South Carolina. The design of this experiment tends to rule out the placebo effect. Thirty heart patients were given a 20 question psychological test to determine their level of anxiety. Then they were treated by a group trained in laying-on hands healing. A control group of patients were also treated by sham healers who imitated the same positions as those who had training. Anxiety levels dropped 17 percent after only five minutes treatment by trained practitioners, but those who were only imitating a treatment created no effect. Daniel Wirth of Healing Sciences International in Orinda, California conducted a tightly controlled experiment involving a Reiki-like healing technique. Forty-four male college students received identical minor wounds deliberately inflicted by a doctor in the right or left shoulder. Twenty-three then received a Reiki like healing and the other twenty- one did not. The treatments were given in such a way that the possibility of a placebo effect was ruled out. All forty-four students extend their arms though a hole in the wall. In the other room, a trained healer was present for those who received healing and administered healing from a distance without touching. For those who did not receive healing, no one was present in the room. Both the students and the doctor who administered the wounds and later also evaluated their healing rate had been told that the experiment was about the electrical conductivity of the body. Neither knew that the experiment was about healing. Eight and sixteen day follow-up measurements of the rate of wound healing were done. After eight days, the treated groups wounds had shrunk 93.5 percent compared with 67.3 percent for those not treated. After sixteen days, the figures were 99.3 and 90.9. After debriefing, the students stated they did not know the true nature of the experiment and had felt no contact with the healer. The possibility that expectations of the students caused the healing was ruled out. Dr. John Zimmerman of the University of Colorado using a SQUID (Superconducting Quantum Interference Device) has discovered that magnetic fields several hundred times stronger than background noise are created around the hands of trained healers when doing healing work on patients. No such fields are created by sham' healers making the same movements indicating something special is happening with the trained healers. The frequencies of the magnetic fields surrounding the hands of the trained healers were of the alpha and theta wave range similar to those seen in the brain of meditators. Dr. Barnard Grad of McGill University in Montreal, used barley seeds to test the effect of psychic healing energies on plants. The seeds were planted in pots and watered with a saline solution, which is known to retard their sprouting and growth. With elaborate double- blind conditions set-up, one group of seeds were watered with saline solution that had been treated by a psychic healer. Dr. Grad carried out similar experiments involving tap water and plants. Sealed containers of water were given to a psychic healer to hold and others were given to a severely depressed patient to hold. The plants watered with the healer-held water had an increased growth rate and those watered with the water held by the severely depressed patient had a decrease in growth rate compared to controls. These experiments involving plants, in addition to confirming the non-placebo nature of psychic healing, scientifically confirm the ancient metaphysical understanding that healing energies can be stored in water for future use. In another experiment involving psychic healer Olga Worrall, Dr. Robert Miller used an electromechanical transducer to measure the microscopic growth rate of rye grass. The device used has an accuracy of one thousandth of an inch per hour. Dr. Miller set-up the experiment in his laboratory and then left, locking the door behind him to eliminate any unnecessary disturbance. Olga, located over 600 miles away was asked to pray for the test plant at exactly 9 PM that evening. When Dr. Miller returned to the laboratory the next day, the test equipment had recorded normal continuous growth of 6.25 thousandths of an inch per hour up to 9 PM. At that time, the record began to deviate upward and had risen to 52.5 thousands of an inch per hour which was an increase of 840 percent! This increased growth rate remained till morning when it decreased but never to its original level. The Spindrift group has done extensive research involving prayer and plants. Their results indicate that prayed for plants always grow faster and are healthier than non-prayed for plants even though the conditions are equal for both groups of plants and those doing the praying are miles away. These results were consistent regardless of the distance involved and occurred over and over. They are described by Robert Owen in his book, " Qualitative Research: The early years " : One of the interesting results of their research work is that they were best when the prayer was non-directional, that is when the prayer was simply for the plants general well-being, rather than for a specific result, such as a certain growth rate or overall height. More experiments are being done and scientific theories are being developed to describe Reiki and Reiki like healing techniques. As we continue into the millennium, increasing interest along with more sensitive equipment will allow science to more completely understand, validate, and accept the reality of Reiki. As this happens, we will see increasing use of Reiki and other laying-on hands healing coming into common use by individuals for themselves and family along with its use in hospitals and doctors offices. The deeper understanding about the nature of health and the unity of all life this re-discovered age old wisdom will provide will reduce suffering and make earth a more worthwhile place to live. With this in mind, let us be encouraged to continue in the spirit of Reiki to help others and to heal the planet. Practitioners have some real interesting stories. Reiki can also enhances natural abilities. If you are an artist, it can help develop your artistic expression. If you have an intuitive sense, Reiki can heighten that. If you have a business head, Reiki can enhance that as well. In the practice of Reiki, working with energy helps you to connect with your path, your skills, and develop your senses. But it takes practice and trusting what you feel. Reiki is also present in some hospitals. Reiki has been applied to these conditions and more with very beneficial results. There are a lot more applications of Reiki – see there web site for more information. http://www.reikimedresearch.com/ ADDICTIONS (drugs and alcohol) Addictions and suicidal behavior Appendicitis Arthritis (osteo-, rheumatoid) Add/adhd Aids /HIV Burns Cancer all types Cervical dysphasia Childbirth Chronic fatigue syndrome & fibromyalgia Coma –phenomenal result Croons Depression Diabetes Dyslexia Eye sight Endometriosis Heart conditions -saved surgery Hypothyroidism Insomnia –results good Leukemia -recovered Lupus-improvements Mole – fell off Migraine- pain free Multiple sclerosis – beneficial results Neuropathy Pagets - beneficial results Pain relief – very beneficial Paralysis- beneficial results recovered Polyps –surgery cancelled Prenatal condition- child born healthy Psoriasis 70% cleared Seizure beneficial Shingles- patient in remission Karuna Reiki Laura gifford gives some interesting differences between reiki and Karuna Reiki and says that Reiki increases the awareness of the way God works in life. Usui Reiki, is the connection to the highest and most holy spiritual energies. Usui Reiki is unconditional Love. Usui Reiki is gentle and peaceful, but very powerful. Usui Reiki is a conduit for Karuna Reiki® to flow through. When receiving Karuna: Karuna Reiki® is very serious, let's get down to business energy. Karuna Reiki® energy goes very deep, gently, but quickly. She describes vibrating at a rapidly increasing rate, feeling like more light than I am flesh. The first few times she received a Karuna treatment she describes rising out of her body, and was taken into the symbols used. One repeated occurrence has been that she has seen flashes of traumatic experiences in this life, and from other times. They appeared as if I am looking through a picture window. The image briefly comes into focus so she was clear on what she was seeing, and then a beam of white and gold light pierces the images and shatters them into zillions of pieces, which immediately become pure light. When she had these experiences she also felt and at times saw physical releases within my body. She experienced deep physical and emotional healing. She describes Karuna being profoundly transformational for her as Usui Reiki and she felt that it had come into her life to assist her in her growth. She says how multi-dimensional Karuna feels to her. She felt it working simultaneously on the emotional, mental and physical bodies, and it has her me layers in her energy field and within her consciousness that go beyond anything she can intellectually comprehend. Karuna Reiki® takes her to that space beyond form, color, time and sound that just cannot be described within the constraints of words except perhaps, the purest sense of peace, and total love she have ever felt. Those words don't even do it justice. She also had sensations of Karuna Reiki® reaching into other times, connecting with karmic issues, and flashing through incarnations linking them and bringing the related lessons to her conscious awareness, and offering her the opportunity to transmute it in the moment. So in this sense, she felt it very gracefully transcends time and space on many levels simultaneously. She also used Karuna Reiki® to do spirit release work with others. phil The Encyclopaedia of Healing by Reba Ann Karp ISBN 0-446-30981-8 This is a condensed version of the readings giving causes and cures and some feed back from people using the treatments -Valuable The Edgar Cayce Handbook for Health through Drugless therapy by Hugh Lynn Cayce Harold Reilly and Ruth Hagy Brod ISBN 0-02-601960-4 Harold reillys 43 years of experience of working with the readings the results he, got the treatments he gave- a very valuable book In , " wmac123relax " <wayne@1...> wrote: > > > Dale is a 50 year old male, who has had kidney stones since he > was 14. He has constant back pain, bloating,vomiting and > problems when he urninates. Everytime the doctor changes his > diet or medicine, the kidney stones change. He has had every > type of stone possible. The doctors have tried to crush the > stones, which almost ruptured the kidney. He has had one > stone removed by cutting into the right kidney and he has had > over 100 systoscopies. The doctors give him pain pills but they > do not help very much anymore. We are looking for other > possible answers to stop the pain and kidney stones. Can you > help? > > Your insights are appreciated > Wayne > http://www.HolisticWebDirectory.com > ========== > List YOUR services online > http://www.123relax.com/listserv.html > ========== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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