Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 dear all, i have a friend who is presently visiting. a young man (31) who has been a golfer, lives moderately. he is a non-drinker and non-smoker. he has no relevant medical history nor is on any medication. at present he is novicing at a buddhist temple. his routine is sitting and walking meditation, driving the monks, and daily light chores. approximately 1 1/2 weeks ago he noticed after a meal that his pulse rate sped up to 120. since then he has noticed that his pulse rate increases after eating meals (from 90-100). this increased rate lasts for 20 to 30 minutes. he has no other symptoms. do you think this warrants a visit to a doctor and have any of you ever heard of increased pulse rate following eating? appreciate your help, deborah...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 It might mean he's allergic to something he ate. Is he eating new foods? Linda - debr. j Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:00 PM question about pulse rate dear all, i have a friend who is presently visiting. a young man (31) who has been a golfer, lives moderately. he is a non-drinker and non-smoker. he has no relevant medical history nor is on any medication. at present he is novicing at a buddhist temple. his routine is sitting and walking meditation, driving the monks, and daily light chores. approximately 1 1/2 weeks ago he noticed after a meal that his pulse rate sped up to 120. since then he has noticed that his pulse rate increases after eating meals (from 90-100). this increased rate lasts for 20 to 30 minutes. he has no other symptoms. do you think this warrants a visit to a doctor and have any of you ever heard of increased pulse rate following eating? appreciate your help, deborah...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Deborah, A heart rate that jumps up that fast after eating warrants a doctor visit. It’s not explainable from simply eating . At first glance, it sounds like something in the food is causing the reaction. Regardless, I think he needs a doc visit. Pronto. Robert debr. j [deb_welch] Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:01 PM To: question about pulse rate dear all, i have a friend who is presently visiting. a young man (31) who has been a golfer, lives moderately. he is a non-drinker and non-smoker. he has no relevant medical history nor is on any medication. at present he is novicing at a buddhist temple. his routine is sitting and walking meditation, driving the monks, and daily light chores. approximately 1 1/2 weeks ago he noticed after a meal that his pulse rate sped up to 120. since then he has noticed that his pulse rate increases after eating meals (from 90-100). this increased rate lasts for 20 to 30 minutes. he has no other symptoms. do you think this warrants a visit to a doctor and have any of you ever heard of increased pulse rate following eating? appreciate your help, deborah .................................................................... we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://www./members_add _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 hi linda, thanks for the quick response. he has been at the buddhist temple for the last 4 mos. and has been eating a diet largely of thai food. prior to the stay at the temple, he had eaten a couple thai dishes in restaurants, though the cooking in thai restaurants is somewhat tempered compared to thai "home cooking". possibly something in the thai diet? at my house tonight he ate my rainy night serving of grilled cheese (smart balance and his pulse prior to eating and after was steady at 75. robert has written that he should see a doctor. i don't discount that advice either. i have learned that his mother has a thyroid condition. wondering here if this could be a culprit.... thank you so very much for your response, deborah ...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 thank you robert, i appreciate your response and advice. i'm thinking a doctor's visit is a good idea. as i wrote in linda's post, he has mentioned thyroid in his family. i'm not sure if this would be symptomatic of a thyroid problem, but best to get checked out! you folks are very special in offering such good observations and advice. deborah...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi Deborah, Could be a food allergy? Just a thought. Here's a link for his consideration -- http://tinyurl.com/5g37k I would be curious to find out what you discover about this. Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Michelle, Thanks for the study information. My friend has now returned to the monastery. We discussed his diet and through the weekdays, most of the food served comes from a particular Thai restaurant that is known to use MSG in cooking. I searched "msg symptoms" and found listed under "severe symptoms", an increased pulse rate. There were of course other symptoms that he has not experienced. I'm thinking the MSG is suspicious. I suggested a visit to an M.D. but he declined for now. He did agree to go a week preparing his own food (which as a novice he can do) which will be simple and nutritious, to do 30 min.per day of aerobic exercise, and to drink lots of water. If at the end of the week he is still experiencing the increased pulse after eating, I think he will get a medical check-up. I really appreciate everyone's attention to this problem and will definitely keep you updated. Thanks so much, Deborah...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hyperthyroidism could cause a sustained higher than normal pulse rate. If it just happens after meals it sounds more like an allergy to some food or a hypersensitivity to some stimulant in the meal or in the environment during the meal. If he goes to a doctor, it would be better to go to an alternative doctor. Most conventional doctors probably don't know about the allergy/pulse connection. From www.drdavidwilliams.com: Do-It-Yourself Food Allergy TestsKeep a detailed chart of everything you eat, drink and are exposed to along with the time of exposure. Indicate any symptoms, like headaches, blurred vision, and so on, and the times they occur. (Note: it could take from 30 minutes to a day before you see symptoms of exposure to an allergen). After a couple of weeks, a pattern may develop; make dietary changes accordingly.You can also use this pulse test: 1. Take and record your pulse for a full minute before you get out of bed each morning. (Normal resting pulse is between 60 and 80 beats a minute.) 2. Take your pulse again right before you eat any one food that you suspect is an allergen or you'd like to rule out. 3. Don't eat any other foods, and take your pulse again at 30 minutes and at 60 minutes after eating the food in question. Keep a record of the foods you test. If your pulse increases more than 10 to 15 beats or goes over 85, there is a strong possibility you are allergic to that food. (Remember that other factors can also increase your pulse.) Linda - debr. j Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:16 PM Re: question about pulse rate hi linda, thanks for the quick response. he has been at the buddhist temple for the last 4 mos. and has been eating a diet largely of thai food. prior to the stay at the temple, he had eaten a couple thai dishes in restaurants, though the cooking in thai restaurants is somewhat tempered compared to thai "home cooking". possibly something in the thai diet? at my house tonight he ate my rainy night serving of grilled cheese (smart balance and his pulse prior to eating and after was steady at 75. robert has written that he should see a doctor. i don't discount that advice either. i have learned that his mother has a thyroid condition. wondering here if this could be a culprit.... thank you so very much for your response, deborah ...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Deborah, I think you may have hit it. MSG can be a real problem, and the more I read your posts, the more I began to wonder about particular Thai spices which he might not be accustomed to. Didn’t even think about MSG. Still might not be a bad idea for him to have this problem on record with the doc and make sure nothing else is going on—like a heart murmur or MVP. Bob debr. j [deb_welch] Monday, February 28, 2005 8:48 PM To: Re: Re: question about pulse rate Michelle, Thanks for the study information. My friend has now returned to the monastery. We discussed his diet and through the weekdays, most of the food served comes from a particular Thai restaurant that is known to use MSG in cooking. I searched " msg symptoms " and found listed under " severe symptoms " , an increased pulse rate. There were of course other symptoms that he has not experienced. I'm thinking the MSG is suspicious. I suggested a visit to an M.D. but he declined for now. He did agree to go a week preparing his own food (which as a novice he can do) which will be simple and nutritious, to do 30 min.per day of aerobic exercise, and to drink lots of water. If at the end of the week he is still experiencing the increased pulse after eating, I think he will get a medical check-up. I really appreciate everyone's attention to this problem and will definitely keep you updated. Thanks so much, Deborah .................................................................... we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://www./members_add _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hi Linda, That's a good routine to follow to test for allergic reaction. If he follows the agreed course for this week, and the "pulse test"/allergins info. you sent, and still is having problems, then it would be good for him to see a doctor. There is one doctor in the area who is a family practicisioner but is from India and is also a yogi and knowledgeable in Ayruvedic Medicine. The other possibilities for him outside the 'mainframe' would be a very excellent chiropractor doctor who offers naturopathic remedies, a reiki/energy worker whose work has shown profitable results with many people I know. Which type of alternative doctor would you recommend? Thanks, Deborah ...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 Hi Deborah, I bet it is the MSG. Doubt that it's related to Thyroid Disease in his mom. Seems weird doesn't it that a monastery would serve food known to be laden with MSG? I bet when he stops eating that, his symptoms will vanish. Nasty stuff! All the best, Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 My first choice would probably be the chiropractor, second the energy worker, and third the Ayurvedic doctor. But that is just me. They all might be able to help if he still has the problem after adjusting his diet. My guess is he won't. I would recommend he use his own intuition in choosing among the three. Linda - debr. j Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:16 AM Re: question about pulse rate Hi Linda, That's a good routine to follow to test for allergic reaction. If he follows the agreed course for this week, and the "pulse test"/allergins info. you sent, and still is having problems, then it would be good for him to see a doctor. There is one doctor in the area who is a family practicisioner but is from India and is also a yogi and knowledgeable in Ayruvedic Medicine. The other possibilities for him outside the 'mainframe' would be a very excellent chiropractor doctor who offers naturopathic remedies, a reiki/energy worker whose work has shown profitable results with many people I know. Which type of alternative doctor would you recommend? Thanks, Deborah ...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 hi all, i just wanted to send a special *Thank You* for all the help with Shane's problem of increased pulse rate after eating. He has been very careful with diet (even *finally* eating healthy fresh greens and skipping foods that do or may include MSG. this process took about a week before he saw his pulse normalize. this group is such a valuable resource! be well, deborahhttp://hertale.blogspot.com/...................................................................we need lions in our hands, trees in our arms, leaping fish in our eyes, wolves in our legs, wildflowers in our feet... in order to come to an understanding of the world we inhabit and to live in it instead of on it. Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Hi Deborah, Good to hear he was motivated to make some dietary improvements. That MSG is nasty stuff! Michelle PS My son's name is Shane ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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