Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 In a message dated 5/24/2003 9:21:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: Hello All, A 37 year old male patient is hearing voices. chanting, repetitious hostile voices, always accompanied by ringing in ears and sparked by stressful situations. He is mentally restlelss and also has a lot of anger, frustration and emotionnality. His pulse is tight, like a drumskin, kidneys are tense. the tongue is swollen and pale, with a thick greasey coat. Can someone list the ghost pints for me?? I also require ideas on what to do herbally... I'd be happy to elaborate more if there are any ??'s. Thanks Eti Worsley Possession treatments are definitely called for here - what we call Internal Dragons and External Dragons. The points for ID's are a "Master Point" in between Ren 14 & 15 (a little closer to 15), St 25, St 32, & St 41. For ED's the points are Du 20, UB 11, UB 23 & UB 61. You basically put the points in from above to below,and go back and sedate them - 1/2 turn counterclockwise - for 20-30 minutes. If you haven't seen these treatments done by a 5E person, its good to see it a few times and know what to expect before you do it. If he is, in Worsley terms, a Wood CF, I have had a case of a Wood CF with schizophrenia who was really helped by GB 9 - Heaven Rushing. Her hearing voices had a lot to do with religious ideation. Along with this I would do simple, grounding command points. Head GB points could be really helpful for him. If its more anger, maybe GB 4 - Loathsome Jaws. P 5 is a good point that acts like a kind of possession treatment. It clears at the same level, but not as potently. Your description of his pulse and tongue makes me think of Yue Ju Tang, with something added to calm and clear the senses - ie- Chang Pu, Zi Shi, Long Gu, Mu Li. Is he hypertensive? Does he express his anger outwardly or hold it internally? Does he explode or implode? -Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 , ajeffres@a... wrote: > In a message dated 5/24/2003 9:21:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, > writes: Worsley Possession treatments are definitely called for here - what we call Internal Dragons and External Dragons. The points for ID's are a " Master Point " in between Ren 14 & 15 (a little closer to 15), St 25, St 32, & St 41. For ED's the points are Du 20, UB 11, UB 23 & UB 61. You basically put the points in from above to below, and go back and sedate them - 1/2 turn counterclockwise - for 20-30 minutes. If you haven't seen these treatments done by a 5E person, its good to see it a few times and know what to expect before you do it. >>> This acupuncture formula basically reduces and brings down heart fire which creates phlegm and reestablishes the communication between the heart and kidney (mind and body) utilizing the yangming and ren mai. It also helps in manic and other excess conditions. But vacuity conditions should be treated differently. What is the Chinese term Worsley is refering to for " possession " ? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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