Guest guest Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 hello all, i am forwarding this email from my wife to the group. i have asked her is she wanted to know what you guy have to say about this depression. she has been good for a while and went off the drugs, and not it seems to appear again..... feel free to respond, thanks, rik(da husband) I am depressed, and the doc thinks it is a " biological " depression, as she puts it, because it's not about some specific problems. Well, I know there is a specific problem too(sex drive), but I do feel that to be a side-effect somewhat. Anyhow, I have tried various anti-depressants, with mixed results: paxil, wellbutrin and effexor for the most part. Effexor was quite effective in dealing with my mood really. Anyhow, kinda thought it was time to come off of the meds, but now, kind of gradually I feel like I am slipping back into sadness, irritability and general 'tired-of-life' feeling. By tired-of-life I mean that sometimes I feel like it all just weighs on me too much, not like I want to die or anything. But the thing is, life is good and I have no major problems, so I don't know why I get these feelings. I don't think I have any major family history of depression, but sometimes that's hard to know. I think my dad may have had some depression in his life. margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2004 Report Share Posted February 24, 2004 Dear Rik and Margaret, I suffered from deep depression most of my life, and the only thing that truly healed me was Reiki treatments and attunements. I highly recommed finding a Reiki Master in your area and getting regular treatments with him or her for awhile. Depression can be the result of past-life baggage (spiritual stuff) that we carry into this life. So even with a supportive family, friends and so-called " good-life " we still feel sad. You need to do some emotional clearing - particularly in your lower belly area. In my healing journey, I have come to recognize that everything we experience physically and mentally - is a reflection of the spiritual. Feel free to write to me for more info at: harmonyhealing @ earthlink.net Love and Blessings, ~Dayna , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > hello all, > i am forwarding this email from my wife to the group. i have asked > her is she wanted to know what you guy have to say about this > depression. she has been good for a while and went off the drugs, > and not it seems to appear again..... feel free to respond, thanks, > rik(da husband) > > I am depressed, and the doc thinks it is a " biological " depression, > as she > puts it, because it's not about some specific problems. Well, I > know there > is a specific problem too(sex drive), but I do feel that to be a > side-effect > somewhat. Anyhow, I have tried various anti-depressants, with mixed > results: paxil, wellbutrin and effexor for the most part. Effexor > was quite > effective in dealing with my mood really. Anyhow, kinda thought it > was time > to come off of the meds, but now, kind of gradually I feel like I am > slipping back into sadness, irritability and general 'tired-of-life' > feeling. By tired-of-life I mean that sometimes I feel like it all > just > weighs on me too much, not like I want to die or anything. But the > thing > is, life is good and I have no major problems, so I don't know why I > get > these feelings. I don't think I have any major family history of > depression, but sometimes that's hard to know. I think my dad may > have had > some depression in his life. margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Hi Rik, It sounds like your wife is a totally reasonable person, who knows she has nothing to complain about, but who feels down and flat anyhow. Her liver needs help to cope with the toxic load from the drugs. Her brain needs concentrated nutrition to enable it to make its own endorphins. AFA algae and chocolate are both rich in PEA, the "molecule of joy". One of my favorite experiences as an "algaevangelist" was the mother of a three year old who snapped out of post partum depression after three days on AFA. She said she felt as if " a wind was blowing through my heart". There is so much more to whole wild plants than just the chemical composition. A Health Pak is worth a try... Read about AFA here: Aquazon What is a health pak? http://wildhealing.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 dt.25.2.2004 rik & margaret may i suggest a variation. your right hand being the giving hand put it on 3rd chakra - stomach & put left hand on heart and then give reiki. we store lot of emotions, resentments etc in stomach. this way it takes out the same from the heart and you feel much lighter. 3rd chakra is the seat of will power & wisdom and they are also cleansed with better effect. if anybody has tried it , please share experience. others may try it. in the past whenever i shall get sometime like travelling in local train, i shall just put my hands there and take reiki which refreshed me. i also suggest a very simple solution. buy a small iron - not stainless steel - knife folding type. keep this under pillow as also you can carry in your upper pocket. whether one believes it or not, too much sadness is due to harmful dark entity most of whom are fearful of iron as per indian tradition and mostly go away. i feel it is this outside interference which is causing so inspite of having a good life. it also appears to me that the dark entities treat it as invitation from your side. i shall suggest that you say loudly that i cancel, deny, deactivate all invitations , permissions to all harmful entities & command them to leave me immidiately. i believe this could have immidiate effect. if sex drive problems are coupled with this sadness, you can find improvement in that also. this has also been found to be very good where bad dreams come regularly. you can see result within 2 days. in india it costs rs 6/- a dollar is around rs 50/-. i have used it a lot with excellant results. d.k.kothari - Dayna Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:59 AM Re: I am depressed Dear Rik and Margaret,I suffered from deep depression most of my life, and the only thing that truly healed me was Reiki treatments and attunements. I highly recommed finding a Reiki Master in your area and getting regular treatments with him or her for awhile. Depression can be the result of past-life baggage (spiritual stuff) that we carry into this life. So even with a supportive family, friends and so-called "good-life" we still feel sad. You need to do some emotional clearing - particularly in your lower belly area. In my healing journey, I have come to recognize that everything we experience physically and mentally - is a reflection of the spiritual. Feel free to write to me for more info at: harmonyhealing @ earthlink.netLove and Blessings,~Dayna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 life gives us many hills to climb but i think we can only climb one at a time why come off a drug that was helping without any other med,in place if effexor was helping but what about long term effects your age may have a bearing on these moods my granddaughter has saddness and is in therpy for it she is 14 but now takes st johns wort it helps her maybe you could try that also try to focus on your family and loved ones its a gift from god to be cherished and enjoy not not look at negatives .it will make you crazy > " Rik " <bliksemskater > > > I am depressed >Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:16:32 -0000 > >hello all, >i am forwarding this email from my wife to the group. i have asked >her is she wanted to know what you guy have to say about this >depression. she has been good for a while and went off the drugs, >and not it seems to appear again..... feel free to respond, thanks, >rik(da husband) > >I am depressed, and the doc thinks it is a " biological " depression, >as she >puts it, because it's not about some specific problems. Well, I >know there >is a specific problem too(sex drive), but I do feel that to be a >side-effect >somewhat. Anyhow, I have tried various anti-depressants, with mixed >results: paxil, wellbutrin and effexor for the most part. Effexor >was quite >effective in dealing with my mood really. Anyhow, kinda thought it >was time >to come off of the meds, but now, kind of gradually I feel like I am >slipping back into sadness, irritability and general 'tired-of-life' >feeling. By tired-of-life I mean that sometimes I feel like it all >just >weighs on me too much, not like I want to die or anything. But the >thing >is, life is good and I have no major problems, so I don't know why I >get >these feelings. I don't think I have any major family history of >depression, but sometimes that's hard to know. I think my dad may >have had >some depression in his life. margaret > > > > >********************************************* >WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > >HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and >Curative measure to take for many ailments at: >http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm >__________ > >-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address >in an email to them: >http://www./members_add > >_________ >To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > >http://www./links > >___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner >_______ >Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 thanks Andrew, i had my wife read the posts, and now it is up to her what she is going to do about it. i will assist her in any sort of way....... let's see what happens. thanks, rik (and margaret) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Rik & Margaret, I want to suggest the book " Anatomy of the Spirit " by Caroline Myss. I went through a severe depression as well, and this book really helped me realize where a lot of stored emotion in my body exists. She's not alone in this. As I found, it seems that can be one of the hardest parts to realize...that there are other people that feel that way - there is strength in that idea somewhere. Take Care & Deep Breaths. , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > thanks Andrew, > i had my wife read the posts, and now it is up to her what she is > going to do about it. i will assist her in any sort of way....... > let's see what happens. thanks, rik (and margaret) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 -Hi Rik and Margaret, There are many ways to handle the same problem but first could you try a liquid B Complex vitamin. Twinlabs makes a good one with Ginseng. The reason I suggest this is your wife says she is tired. Many forms of depression manifest from not having enough energy which B vitamins are responsible for producing. I suggest a liquid because it is more easily assimilated and I find that when I go without it for too long I get the crawling along the floor pushing my head in front of me feeling of tiredness. If this does not work then other factors may be at work - however the food we eat is no longer as rich in vitamins and minerals as it used to be. B Vitamins are particularly lacking in our foodstuffs so much that they attempt to enrich it. I wish you and Margaret all the best. Let is know how it goes! Gail -- In , " Rik " <bliksemskater> wrote: > hello all, > i am forwarding this email from my wife to the group. i have asked > her is she wanted to know what you guy have to say about this > depression. she has been good for a while and went off the drugs, > and not it seems to appear again..... feel free to respond, thanks, > rik(da husband) > > I am depressed, and the doc thinks it is a " biological " depression, > as she > puts it, because it's not about some specific problems. Well, I > know there > is a specific problem too(sex drive), but I do feel that to be a > side-effect > somewhat. Anyhow, I have tried various anti-depressants, with mixed > results: paxil, wellbutrin and effexor for the most part. Effexor > was quite > effective in dealing with my mood really. Anyhow, kinda thought it > was time > to come off of the meds, but now, kind of gradually I feel like I am > slipping back into sadness, irritability and general 'tired-of-life' > feeling. By tired-of-life I mean that sometimes I feel like it all > just > weighs on me too much, not like I want to die or anything. But the > thing > is, life is good and I have no major problems, so I don't know why I > get > these feelings. I don't think I have any major family history of > depression, but sometimes that's hard to know. I think my dad may > have had > some depression in his life. margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Rik & Margaret, I want to suggest the book " Anatomy of the Spirit " by Caroline Myss. I went through a severe depression as well, and this book really helped me realize where a lot of stored emotion in my body exists. She's not alone in this. As I found, it seems that can be one of the hardest parts to realize...that there are other people that feel that way - there is strength in that idea somewhere. Take Care & Deep Breaths. I read the book recently also and found it very helpful. A great suggestion! Love & Light, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Has Margaret tried the Emotional Freedom technique? Read all about it here: http://emofree.com Ien in the Kootenays***************************************************"Life is not about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself."~George Bernard Shawhttp://businesshelpingpeople.comsee my face, learn about creating your life!************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Regarding the reference to liquid Vitamin B below, I was wondering if there are any that are not yeast based. I have never seen TwinLabs where I live (Canada). A naturopath prescribed liquid Vit B for me as I've always had problems with B-complex pills. Yet this was even worse! Later I noticed that it was made from yeast. For me, the problem was digestive issues (it caused what seems best described as fermentation). TIA, Suzan --- bellaragazza19119 <smoochya wrote: > -Hi Rik and Margaret, > There are many ways to handle the same problem > but first could you > try a liquid B Complex vitamin. Twinlabs makes > a good one with > Ginseng. The reason I suggest this is your > wife says she is tired. > Many forms of depression manifest from not > having enough energy which > B vitamins are responsible for producing. I > suggest a liquid because > it is more easily assimilated and I find that > when I go without it > for too long I get the crawling along the floor > pushing my head in > front of me feeling of tiredness. If this does > not work then other > factors may be at work - however the food we > eat is no longer as rich > in vitamins and minerals as it used to be. B > Vitamins are > particularly lacking in our foodstuffs so much > that they attempt to > enrich it. > > I wish you and Margaret all the best. Let is > know how it goes! > Gail > > > -- In , " Rik " > <bliksemskater> > wrote: > > hello all, > > i am forwarding this email from my wife to > the group. i have asked > > her is she wanted to know what you guy have > to say about this > > depression. she has been good for a while > and went off the drugs, > > and not it seems to appear again..... feel > free to respond, thanks, > > rik(da husband) > > > > I am depressed, and the doc thinks it is a > " biological " depression, > > as she > > puts it, because it's not about some specific > problems. Well, I > > know there > > is a specific problem too(sex drive), but I > do feel that to be a > > side-effect > > somewhat. Anyhow, I have tried various > anti-depressants, with mixed > > results: paxil, wellbutrin and effexor for > the most part. Effexor > > was quite > > effective in dealing with my mood really. > Anyhow, kinda thought it > > was time > > to come off of the meds, but now, kind of > gradually I feel like I am > > slipping back into sadness, irritability and > general 'tired-of-life' > > feeling. By tired-of-life I mean that > sometimes I feel like it all > > just > > weighs on me too much, not like I want to die > or anything. But the > > thing > > is, life is good and I have no major > problems, so I don't know why > I > > get > > these feelings. I don't think I have any > major family history of > > depression, but sometimes that's hard to > know. I think my dad may > > have had > > some depression in his life. margaret > > > Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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