Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 <The man most noted for being able to accomplish great miracles of healing did not charge fees and that could very well be a prerequisite for the way medicine should be administered.> I will not waste much time on this. Except to say that most of us healers have not quite mastered the art of multiplying loaves and fishes yet, and deserve to earn a living. The Conversations with God books cover this topic beautifully. Our society expresses how it values anything in money. Yet somehow it thinks it not right to monetarily reward the most essential and spiritual services. Something is wrong with this picture. I am an astrologer, and a healer. (Reiki and Reflexology) My prices are reasonable, and I am always open to barter for a non-money energy exchange. But spare me the "it ought to be free" bit. Try it with the landlord and the supermarket and see how far you get. Ien in the Kootenays*********************************************************"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given you"~Gandalfhttp://businesshelpingpeople.comSee my face, browse my inspiring library!******************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Dear Ieneke, What a pleasure it is to observe the warrior in you spring forth in unabated honesty. There is a misconception in this world today about the word free. Nothing is free, even the gift of love. For in accepting it, one must must surrender to its transformative powers. That which is free according to man is without necessity for interchange. The nature of life is interchange. We exist because of God's Love for us yet must awaken to not only accept that love but also to return it through the unending necessity of awakening to a greater consciousness. All life represents the giving and receiving of that which is and that which is not. Man misunderstands his place in this world and all too often suffers the illusion that he is entitled to that which he wants. Few understand the wisdom of Emerson who spoke of the Law of Compensation and how one who receives without giving is a pauper. The challenge for each of us is not that we receive but that we give without expectation. Yet, in this physical world where abundant laws reflect the inherent degeneration of man's spiritual nature, the balance between giving and receiving is not one which one can assume. Thus, it is essential that we respect the spiritual ignorance of those who feel entitled to all that they want. We do this by insuring that they not violate the Law of Balance and give payment for that which they receive. Some have great challenge with this as they do not feel worthy of receiving and thus devalue themselves, while harboring resentment for the inequities which they themselves have attracted to themselves. Much Love in Spirit, Stephen Ieneke van Houten [ien]Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:47 PM Subject: paying the doctor <The man most noted for being able to accomplish great miracles of healing did not charge fees and that could very well be a prerequisite for the way medicine should be administered.> I will not waste much time on this. Except to say that most of us healers have not quite mastered the art of multiplying loaves and fishes yet, and deserve to earn a living. The Conversations with God books cover this topic beautifully. Our society expresses how it values anything in money. Yet somehow it thinks it not right to monetarily reward the most essential and spiritual services. Something is wrong with this picture. I am an astrologer, and a healer. (Reiki and Reflexology) My prices are reasonable, and I am always open to barter for a non-money energy exchange. But spare me the "it ought to be free" bit. Try it with the landlord and the supermarket and see how far you get. Ien in the Kootenays*********************************************************"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given you"~Gandalfhttp://businesshelpingpeople.comSee my face, browse my inspiring library!******************************************************** ********************************************* WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative and Curative measure to take for many ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm__________-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them:http://www./members_add _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://www./links___________Community email addresses: Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______Shortcut URL to this page: http://www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Amen to you Dr Brown,you have an eloquence with words with which I agree. And to you Ieneke I can only say " render unto Caesar what is Caesar's " for if a man is not worth his meddle what profiteth a prophet? In a way,I say the same thing as Stephen,there may be a much greater value ultimately in performing a task for little reward in this lifetime.It is either the very wise or the very stupid who would believes in Karma.And like all the great teachers I believe you reap what you sow.In His name and in His spirit,I remain,Dr John D. Son NMD. , " DrSABrown " <DrSABrown@a...> wrote: > Dear Ieneke, > > What a pleasure it is to observe the warrior in you spring forth in unabated > honesty. There is a misconception in this world today about the word free. > Nothing is free, even the gift of love. For in accepting it, one must must > surrender to its transformative powers. That which is free according to man > is without necessity for interchange. The nature of life is interchange. We > exist because of God's Love for us yet must awaken to not only accept that > love but also to return it through the unending necessity of awakening to a > greater consciousness. All life represents the giving and receiving of that > which is and that which is not. Man misunderstands his place in this world > and all too often suffers the illusion that he is entitled to that which he > wants. > > > Few understand the wisdom of Emerson who spoke of the Law of Compensation > and how one who receives without giving is a pauper. The challenge for each > of us is not that we receive but that we give without expectation. Yet, in > this physical world where abundant laws reflect the inherent degeneration of > man's spiritual nature, the balance between giving and receiving is not one > which one can assume. Thus, it is essential that we respect the spiritual > ignorance of those who feel entitled to all that they want. We do this by > insuring that they not violate the Law of Balance and give payment for that > which they receive. Some have great challenge with this as they do not feel > worthy of receiving and thus devalue themselves, while harboring resentment > for the inequities which they themselves have attracted to themselves. > > > Much Love in Spirit, > > Stephen > > Ieneke van Houten [ien@w...] > Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:47 PM > > paying the doctor > > > <The man most noted for > being able to accomplish great miracles of healing > did not charge fees and that could very well > be a prerequisite for the way medicine > should be administered.> > > I will not waste much time on this. > Except to say that most of us healers > have not quite mastered the art of > multiplying loaves and fishes yet, > and deserve to earn a living. > > The Conversations with God books cover > this topic beautifully. > Our society expresses how it values > anything in money. > Yet somehow it thinks it not right > to monetarily reward the most essential > and spiritual services. > Something is wrong with this picture. > > I am an astrologer, and a healer. > (Reiki and Reflexology) > My prices are reasonable, and I am > always open to barter for a non-money > energy exchange. > > But spare me the " it ought to be free " > bit. > Try it with the landlord and the supermarket > and see how far you get. > > Ien in the Kootenays > ********************************************************* > " All you have to decide is what to do with the > time that is given you " > ~Gandalf > http://businesshelpingpeople.com > See my face, browse my inspiring library! > ******************************************************** > > > > > ********************************************* > WWW.PEACEFULMIND.COM Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- this is the premise of HOLISTIC HEALTH. Preventative > and Curative measure to take for many ailments at: > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments_frame.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address > in an email to them: > http://www./members_add > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://www./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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