Vitamin D deficiency

[Guest guest]

Hi Barb, You do not specify the exact amounts of Vit D you are taking.

The Food and Nutrition Board of the Institute of Medicine currently recommends

the following daily vitamin D intake levels: 200 international units (IU)

from birth to age 50 years, 400 IU from age 51 to 70 years, 600 IU for ages

over

70 years, and 800 IU for patients who are homebound or institutionalized.2

Clinical studies indicate that these recommendations may be too low and that

the minimum intake of vitamin D for adults should be 800 to 1,000 IU per

day.Skin synthesis of vitamin D declines with age, due to epidermal thinning,

loss of total lipid content, and decreased blood flow in the skin. So sun

exposure, while it may help, may not be a saving grace . Also, you do not

indicate

what your initial levels were , and what they doubled to. Baseline level,

intermediate, current, etc. Additionally, you do not mention the type of Vit D

you take. Are you taking ALL NATURAL D3? Incidently, Hans Neiper treated

MS with mineral transporters...MS patients received Ca-AEP in a carrier

solution like Ringer's, combined with K-Mg-aspartate and Ouabain, in order to

enhance the membrane retention of the Ca-EAP. Nieper was controversial, but

if

you have a strong background in biochemistry, his treatment protocols seem to

make sense. The Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine in NYC , when Dr

Atkins was alive ( he was the low-carb guy), used some of Nieper's protocols

as treatments for both MS and cancer. Kind regards, Lisa

[Guest guest]

Just a thought, buy maybe you might want to do more research on those

drugs that you are taking as the drugs might very well be the cause of

why you are getting weaker and weaker. FYI, drug companies are not

honest when it comes to revealing the truth about their drugs nowadays.

They suppress any bad side effects and manipulate the numbers in their

clinical trials using relative instead of absolute values as a way to

make their drugs look good.Also, I think tomatoes have a lot of iron in

them and cancers thrive on iron.

 

Josephine

[Guest guest]

Boniva is a poison. It builds up dead bone tissue as a way of

improving bone density...another scam by big pharma. It will do way

more harm than good, no matter WHAT your Dr. says! Research:

alternatives to boniva. You can't get too much magnesium, especially

when you are older. --- In

, " bannh1102 "

<bannh1102 wrote:

>

> Does anyone know how long it takes to recover from the effects of

a

> vitamin D deficiency. I'm hoping they are reversible anyway.

I've

> been doubling my calcium with D and taking my multi vitamin with

D3. I

> had already doubled it once when it easied my bone pain then my

doctor

> doubled it again an added sun bathing.

[Guest guest]

If you have any questions about any drug, go to askapatient.com and

people that have taken that drug will give you their honest opinion

about it and any side effects they had with it. I would suggest

going to that site BEFORE taking any drug. It could save you a lot

of health problems later. ---

In , " bannh1102 "

<bannh1102 wrote:

>

> Does anyone know how long it takes to recover from the effects of

a

> vitamin D deficiency. I'm hoping they are reversible anyway.

I've

> been doubling my calcium with D and taking my multi vitamin with

D3. I

> had already doubled it once when it easied my bone pain then my

doctor

> doubled it again an added sun bathing.

[Guest guest]

drink milk!! lots of it....you should try and get any natural forms of Vit.

D in your body

 

mod note - but be aware that cows milk may cause allergies in some people and I

believe there are some rather nasty gm hormones in American milk

 

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Cancer also thrives in an acid Ph . . . so go for alkali.

 

, " jlkinkona "

<josephine wrote:

>

> Just a thought, buy maybe you might want to do more research on those

> drugs that you are taking as the drugs might very well be the cause

of

> why you are getting weaker and weaker.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lisa, Thank you for your reply. Yes I should have mention how

much I'm taking of what. After looking at the levels you show I may

still not be taking enough to build up. Both pills are mixed with

other things. My calcium levels were fine I think.

I was taking 1200 mg of Calcium/w 250 mg vitamin D (reg) Doubled

it's 2400/500 mg.

I started 1200/125 Calcium/D when my pain started nearly two years

ago, before just one pill. Thats when I was diagnosed with

Osteoprosis.

Multi vitamin has 400mg D3, Left that the same. I started taking

that when I saw the reports, not long ago. Its the Wild Oats brand,

I'm not sure if it natural. I took Shakely before I got this an I

know it was.

Now 10/20 minutes a day of sun. I don't think thats enough for my

age, 62, because I don't seem to tan anymore. My skin tanned

easily when I was younger, never burned. I'm not that dark either

now. I'm about medium completion

My MS is not progressing according to my Neuro. My cancer was nearly

5 years ago.

I should be getting stronger but I'm not, I'm getting weaker.

Honestly I feel guilty, lazy. My legs are so weak that getting up an

down it difficult. When I get out of bed in the morning I doddle,

you know what that means. It takes me a while to just to walk. I

hold on the the walls for balance. I've gained nearly 40 pounds in

the last two years. Most days I just feel ill, then I'll have a

good day, not a strong day but better. They offered me a hip

replacement but I'm scared to do it. My systems just not recovering

like it should.

I was on Lipitor 40 mg for many years, I stopped that about 3 months

ago because I thought it might be causing the problems with my bones

and my pain. I can't tell any difference.

I take Arimidex for my cancer, it can also cause osteoprosis an

pain. They tell me it shouldn't continue to cause problems. I've

been taking it over two years, maybe three.

I takeTriamt/HTCZ for swelling of my feet an ankles. I just started

taking that 3 weeks ago.

Boniva once a month. I just started that again this month. They put

me on it last year an I took it about 3 months. Stopped an started

using Kefir an counting on these calcium pills.

My test Levels were:

Vit D 25 Hydroxy 29^ ng/ml

Vit D3, 25- Hydroxy 29 ng/ml

Vit D2, 25-Hydroxy <4.0 ng/ml

I'm not sure what all that means. I thought when I saw it I was

within normal low limits.

Other pills I take are: Fish Oil , CoQ-10, Folic Acid, Milk of

Magnesia, an I drink Noni juice mixed with plain yogurt. I was

drinking Kefir but the temperture got to warm in my house for it to

make right. I'll go back to it when the weather breaks.

I sure hope you can give me some ideas because what I'm doing doesn't

seem to be working. Is what you mentioned a suppliment I can buy or

something you have to see those doctors for? Where can I find out

more about it?

 

 

Thanks,

Barbara

[Guest guest]

Thank you Josephine, I'd never heard that about iron. I thought

tomatoes helped fight some kinds of cancer. I'd better do some more

reading. I really hate that because I love tomatoes, and green

tomatoes is my favorite dish. I just allow myself the green ones once

a year though because they are fried. I could about live on the red

onces even eat those for breakfast.

I do need to check on the Bonvia side effect. I'm sure it didn't cause

these problems because I already had them, but for future problems that

I don't need. I've already gave up Lipitor. I wanted to stop the

Arimidex but I was hoping my doctor could find another reason for my

problems. It's a hormone blocker an my mother died of breast cancer,

the same kind I had. I'm afraid to stop it without at least trying to

find another solution.

Thank you for the information.

Barbara

[Guest guest]

Thanks In for the site, I'll read it an do more research.

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 

> Research

> alternatives to boniva. You can't get too much magnesium, especially

> when you are older. --- In

[Guest guest]

Milk has the most ILGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor

1) of any source other than isolated soy protein.

ILGF-1 fuels cancer. That's why women who have had

breast cancer are told not to drink milk or eat

cheese.

 

A cancer researcher once told me the number 1 thing to

do to avoid cancer was to never eat or drink ANY diary

product.

 

 

--- PetsPlantsHome wrote:

 

> drink milk!! lots of it....you should try and get

> any natural forms of Vit.

> D in your body

>

> mod note - but be aware that cows milk may cause

> allergies in some people and I believe there are

> some rather nasty gm hormones in American milk

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

 

Would that be true of Organic Milk? Is that hormone a natural part

of milk or one that is given to coms to make them produce more.

 

I'm confused because Dr. Jonas Budwig uses some dairy in his cancer

diet. I make a drink out of Kefir, Flaxseed oil, ground flaxseed an

fruit, nearly ever morning. I've been using plain yogurt lately

instead of the kefir because of the heat.

I'd like more information if you have a link, I'd love to read more.

I changed a while back to organic.

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 

 

, Kay Gore

<kayg23451 wrote:

>

> Milk has the most ILGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor

> 1) of any source other than isolated soy protein.

> ILGF-1 fuels cancer.

[Guest guest]

whoa, hey, what was that about isolated soy protein??

 

does that have anything to do with tofu, tempeh, soymilk, all that

kinda stuff? i eat at least one of those things almost everyday....

 

, Kay Gore

<kayg23451 wrote:

>

> Milk has the most ILGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor

> 1) of any source other than isolated soy protein.

>

[Guest guest]

Vitamin D in milk is not natural ,it's added.In Ohio we had a case where a

dairy added to much Vit. D and caused several people to be hospitalized . What's

more there's nothing natural about homogenized milk .The enzyme in cause scaring

of the arteries. If you give pasteurized milk to calves they would die.

 

Kay Gore <kayg23451 wrote: Milk has the most ILGF-1

(insulin-like growth factor

1) of any source other than isolated soy protein.

ILGF-1 fuels cancer.

[Guest guest]

Where is your source for the calves dying from pasteurized milk? I

know farmers, a lot of them that feed pasteurized milk to their calves!

 

marti

On Sunday, August 26, 2007, at 03:57 PM, joe dennis wrote:

 

> Vitamin D in milk is not natural ,it's added.In Ohio we had a case

> where a dairy added to much Vit. D and caused several people to be

> hospitalized . What's more there's nothing natural about homogenized

> milk .The enzyme in cause scaring of the arteries. If you give

> pasteurized milk to calves they would die.

>

> Kay Gore <kayg23451 wrote: Milk has the most ILGF-1

> (insulin-like growth factor

> 1) of any source other than isolated soy protein.

> ILGF-1 fuels cancer.

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It takes 15 minutes, outdoors, sans sunscreen to soak up the amount of

vitamin D your body needs for the day. The fact that lazy Americans

cannot get this simple thing done every day is ludicrous. We have

been so brain washed to fear the sun that now we're not even soaking

in the benefits...ridiculous!

 

, " Clares Primus "

<mcharris wrote:

>

> BlankIn my book, Statin Drugs Side Effects and the misguided war on

cholesterol, and on this website I have discussed the vital role of

cholesterol in the human body. Our most important hormones depend upon

adequate reserves of cholesterol for their production and nowhere is

this more important than as the precursor substance for the synthesis

of Vitamin D, known also as calcitrol.

> Researchers in this field are sufficiently concerned from the

results of their studies to pronounce that we are in the midst of an

epidemic of vitamin D deficiency of immense proportion. Study after

study of nursing home populations, of nursing mothers, of healthy male

and female volunteers and of various children's groups have

consistently documented how relatively rare it is to have optimal

levels of Vitamin D.

>

> Some authorities support more liberal dietary supplementation of

vitamin D in our food products. Others are urging that practical new

approaches for vitamin D repletion in our country are urgently needed.

This high prevalence of vitamin D deficiency, even in those taking

multivitamins, indicates that a critical review of vitamin D needs is

a major priority.

>

> A vitamin D precursor is synthesized in the skin from cholesterol in

response to absorbing UVB rays. It then gets converted in the liver to

an intermediate form. In the kidneys it joins with an important enzyme

for conversion into its active hormonal form.

>

> Many factors potentially interfere with the UVB conversion. People

having darker skins are much more likely to have vitamin D deficiency.

The aged skin of the elderly impairs cholesterol conversion as does

the presence of obesity. Our present day emphasis on protecting our

skin from the sun, using sun-screens and blockers, also cuts down on

the ability of UVB to convert cholesterol to vitamin D. Last but not

least, one needs UVB exposure.

>

> Without any sun exposure you need about 4,000 units of vitamin D a

day. In the absence of other supplements you would need 40 glasses of

milk or ten multi-vitamins capsules daily to supply your vitamin D

needs. Most of us make about 20,000 units of vitamin D after 20

minutes of summer sun due to UVB conversion of cholesterol. Numerous

studies document that the majority of our society falls short of

meeting either their dietary or UVB conversion needs for vitamin D.

>

>

>

> Now consider the impact of statin drugs on a society already

overburdened with an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Cholesterol

must be available in our bodies in amounts sufficient to allow UVB

conversion to vitamin D. We are all genetically blessed with a

" natural level " of cholesterol. What is natural for one person may be

completely inadequate for another.

>

> Into this heterogenous pool we dump statins indiscriminately in a

misguided attempt to bring everyone's natural level of cholesterol

down to some artificially low level.

> I cannot think of anything more likely to aggravate our already

immense, vitamin D deficient state. There is little doubt that the

availability of statins drugs these past two decades has made a major

contribution to this problem.

>

> Duane Graveline MD MPH

> Former USAF Flight Surgeon

> Former NASA Astronaut

> Retired Family Doctor

>

> http://www.spacedoc.net/statins_vitaminD.html

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<mommyon731 wrote:

>

> It takes 15 minutes, outdoors, sans sunscreen to soak up the amount

of

> vitamin D your body needs for the day. The fact that lazy Americans

> cannot get this simple thing done every day is ludicrous. We have

> been so brain washed to fear the sun that now we're not even soaking

> in the benefits...ridiculous!

>

> , " Clares Primus "

> <mcharris@> wrote:

> >

> > BlankIn my book, Statin Drugs Side Effects and the misguided war

on

> cholesterol, and on this website I have discussed the vital role of

> cholesterol in the human body. Our most important hormones depend

upon

> adequate reserves of cholesterol for their production and nowhere is

> this more important than as the precursor substance for the

synthesis

> of Vitamin D, known also as calcitrol.

> > Researchers in this field are sufficiently concerned from the

> results of their studies to pronounce that we are in the midst of an

> epidemic of vitamin D deficiency of immense proportion. Study after

> study of nursing home populations, of nursing mothers, of healthy

male

> and female volunteers and of various children's groups have

> consistently documented how relatively rare it is to have optimal

> levels of Vitamin D.

> >

> > Some authorities support more liberal dietary supplementation of

> vitamin D in our food products. Others are urging that practical new

> approaches for vitamin D repletion in our country are urgently

needed.

> This high prevalence of vitamin D deficiency, even in those taking

> multivitamins, indicates that a critical review of vitamin D needs

is

> a major priority.

> >

> > A vitamin D precursor is synthesized in the skin from cholesterol

in

> response to absorbing UVB rays. It then gets converted in the liver

to

> an intermediate form. In the kidneys it joins with an important

enzyme

> for conversion into its active hormonal form.

> >

> > Many factors potentially interfere with the UVB conversion. People

> having darker skins are much more likely to have vitamin D

deficiency.

> The aged skin of the elderly impairs cholesterol conversion as does

> the presence of obesity. Our present day emphasis on protecting our

> skin from the sun, using sun-screens and blockers, also cuts down on

> the ability of UVB to convert cholesterol to vitamin D. Last but not

> least, one needs UVB exposure.

> >

> > Without any sun exposure you need about 4,000 units of vitamin D a

> day. In the absence of other supplements you would need 40 glasses

of

> milk or ten multi-vitamins capsules daily to supply your vitamin D

> needs. Most of us make about 20,000 units of vitamin D after 20

> minutes of summer sun due to UVB conversion of cholesterol. Numerous

> studies document that the majority of our society falls short of

> meeting either their dietary or UVB conversion needs for vitamin D.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now consider the impact of statin drugs on a society already

> overburdened with an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Cholesterol

> must be available in our bodies in amounts sufficient to allow UVB

> conversion to vitamin D. We are all genetically blessed with a

> " natural level " of cholesterol. What is natural for one person may

be

> completely inadequate for another.

> >

> > Into this heterogenous pool we dump statins indiscriminately in a

> misguided attempt to bring everyone's natural level of cholesterol

> down to some artificially low level.

> > I cannot think of anything more likely to aggravate our already

> immense, vitamin D deficient state. There is little doubt that the

> availability of statins drugs these past two decades has made a

major

> contribution to this problem.

> >

> > Duane Graveline MD MPH

> > Former USAF Flight Surgeon

> > Former NASA Astronaut

> > Retired Family Doctor

> >

> > http://www.spacedoc.net/statins_vitaminD.html

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Nevertheless sunscreen will ensure you get insufficient Vit D - and how many

millions of you use the stuff?

 

Jane

 

-

" Marc " <mlemura

 

Friday, August 15, 2008 3:18 PM

Re: Vitamin D Deficiency

 

 

 

Don't beleive everything you hear, read or think about

Americans....we're quite unique, but we're not cast from one mold.

We're individuals...always have been, .....Marc RI & crew

, " mommy2threelilboys "

<mommyon731 wrote:

>

> It takes 15 minutes, outdoors, sans sunscreen to soak up the amount

of

> vitamin D your body needs for the day. The fact that lazy Americans

> cannot get this simple thing done every day is ludicrous. We have

> been so brain washed to fear the sun that now we're not even soaking

> in the benefits...ridiculous!

[Guest guest]

Hey the slip slop slap campaign has done damage to our school kids... as has the campaign to ensure all people are afraid of skin cancer from sun exposure....

I forwarded the Vit D article to another Ozzy group today and was politely reminded of the Marshall Protocol.... and the sun cancer risk....... (two separate issues)..... ah the advertising companies and the pharm cartels will do anything to make a quick buck eh? and many end users/consumers buy into it lock stock and barrel.... so much so that Doctors are gods, ho's feet we should worship!

 

Nevertheless sunscreen will ensure you get insufficient Vit D - and how many millions of you use the stuff?

[Guest guest]

Well actually the nurse is god - the Drs remain subject to the nurse lol - in hospital situations anyway ........

 

Yep slip slop slap - is indeed a Pharm product of fear mongering - and everyone follows in fear and dread of skin cancer - however skin cancer does occur in skin that has been repeatedly burnt - it takes intelligence to manage our physical bodies in this day & age - balance and intelligence, health and health care are not seen as our responsibility any more - TV has helped us hand over responsibility to the Dr & the Pharmacist .................

 

Jane

 

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Clares Primus

Friday, August 15, 2008 4:27 PM

Re: Re: Vitamin D Deficiency

 

Hey the slip slop slap campaign has done damage to our school kids... as has the campaign to ensure all people are afraid of skin cancer from sun exposure....

I forwarded the Vit D article to another Ozzy group today and was politely reminded of the Marshall Protocol.... and the sun cancer risk....... (two separate issues)..... ah the advertising companies and the pharm cartels will do anything to make a quick buck eh? and many end users/consumers buy into it lock stock and barrel.... so much so that Doctors are gods, ho's feet we should worship!

 

Nevertheless sunscreen will ensure you get insufficient Vit D - and how many millions of you use the stuff?

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[Guest guest]

Sunscreen is full of chemicals and your skin is one of the best place

to absorb chemicals. I never put that junk on me or my children. Did

anyone stop to think that maybe it's the chemical crap that we're

lathering on our skin that is causing all the skin cancer?? Raw

organic coconut oil work very well to shield from a sunburn and I only

use that if we are outside for hours on end. I suppose I'm lucky

because our skin tone is such that we don't burn easily.

 

, " Jane MacRoss "

<highfield1 wrote:

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> Nevertheless sunscreen will ensure you get insufficient Vit D - and

how many

> millions of you use the stuff?

>

> Jane

>

> -

> " Marc " <mlemura

>

> Friday, August 15, 2008 3:18 PM

> Re: Vitamin D Deficiency

>

>

>

> Don't beleive everything you hear, read or think about

> Americans....we're quite unique, but we're not cast from one mold.

> We're individuals...always have been, .....Marc RI & crew

> , " mommy2threelilboys "

> <mommyon731@> wrote:

> >

> > It takes 15 minutes, outdoors, sans sunscreen to soak up the amount

> of

> > vitamin D your body needs for the day. The fact that lazy Americans

> > cannot get this simple thing done every day is ludicrous. We have

> > been so brain washed to fear the sun that now we're not even soaking

> > in the benefits...ridiculous!

>

[Guest guest]

so will a nice hat with a brim and a shirt. when your skin feels hot move to the shade.

 

 

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vitamin D deficiency causes depression and seasonal affect disorder. which of course tehy treat with their drugs. we go out every day even in the snow and rain.

 

 

Marc <mlemura Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:18:23 AM Re: Vitamin D Deficiency Don't beleive everything you hear, read or think about Americans....we're quite unique, but we're not cast from one mold. We're individuals...always have been, .....Marc RI & crew , "mommy2threelilboys" <mommyon731 wrote:>> It takes 15 minutes, outdoors, sans sunscreen to soak up the amount of> vitamin D your body needs for the day. The fact that lazy Americans> cannot get this simple thing done every day is ludicrous. We have> been

so brain washed to fear the sun that now we're not even soaking> in the benefits...ridiculous! > > , "Clares Primus"> <mcharris@> wrote:> >> > BlankIn my book, Statin Drugs Side Effects and the misguided war on> cholesterol, and on this website I have discussed the vital role of> cholesterol in the human body. Our most important hormones depend upon> adequate reserves of cholesterol for their production and nowhere is> this more important than as the precursor substance for the synthesis> of Vitamin D, known also as calcitrol. > > Researchers in this field are sufficiently concerned from the> results of their studies to pronounce that we are in the midst of an> epidemic of

vitamin D deficiency of immense proportion. Study after> study of nursing home populations, of nursing mothers, of healthy male> and female volunteers and of various children's groups have> consistently documented how relatively rare it is to have optimal> levels of Vitamin D. > > > > Some authorities support more liberal dietary supplementation of> vitamin D in our food products. Others are urging that practical new> approaches for vitamin D repletion in our country are urgently needed.> This high prevalence of vitamin D deficiency, even in those taking> multivitamins, indicates that a critical review of vitamin D needs is> a major priority.> > > > A vitamin D precursor is synthesized in the skin from cholesterol in> response to absorbing UVB rays. It then gets converted in the liver to> an intermediate form. In the

kidneys it joins with an important enzyme> for conversion into its active hormonal form. > > > > Many factors potentially interfere with the UVB conversion. People> having darker skins are much more likely to have vitamin D deficiency.> The aged skin of the elderly impairs cholesterol conversion as does> the presence of obesity. Our present day emphasis on protecting our> skin from the sun, using sun-screens and blockers, also cuts down on> the ability of UVB to convert cholesterol to vitamin D. Last but not> least, one needs UVB exposure.> > > > Without any sun exposure you need about 4,000 units of vitamin D a> day. In the absence of other supplements you would need 40 glasses of> milk or ten multi-vitamins capsules daily to supply your vitamin D> needs. Most of us make about 20,000 units of vitamin D after 20> minutes of

summer sun due to UVB conversion of cholesterol. Numerous> studies document that the majority of our society falls short of> meeting either their dietary or UVB conversion needs for vitamin D.> > > > > > > > Now consider the impact of statin drugs on a society already> overburdened with an epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Cholesterol> must be available in our bodies in amounts sufficient to allow UVB> conversion to vitamin D. We are all genetically blessed with a> "natural level" of cholesterol. What is natural for one person may be> completely inadequate for another. > > > > Into this heterogenous pool we dump statins indiscriminately in a> misguided attempt to bring everyone's natural level of cholesterol> down to some artificially low level. > > I cannot think of anything more likely to aggravate our

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if you dont have enough calcium the D latches on to what it thinks is calcium, aka LEAD,so you may want to be checked for heavy metals. Its a vicious cycle.Amanda Adams <river_willow76herbal remedies Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:58:53 AMSubject:

{Herbal Remedies} Vitamin D deficiency

 

 

I am just now learning about the effects of Vitamin D. Ive always been very health conscious so it surprises me that I hadnt already learned about this. It seems though that if I AM deficient in this vitamin that would explain alot of my health problems right now.

 

My question is, if I want to be sure that my children and myself are getting enough vitamin D, how do I go about this. How much are we even suppose to have anyway? I have also read a little about over doing it and how it can be toxic. This does concern me quite a bit. I know the sun provides some but what else can I do? Is it a bad thing to have your kids on Vitamin D supplements?

 

I also read that if you are going to start supplementing this vitamin then you also have to take extra calcium and magnesium in order for things to work out right. Is this true?

 

Thanks

RiverWhether you think you can, or you think you can't.... you're right. River Willow

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River,

 

My MD is the one who tested me for low Vit D. ( I hardly ever venture to one) He was alarmed at just how low it was so I started supplementing with D 3 in much higher doses than he recommended because I did some research via the internet. It has taken one year to get it up to the lowest acceptable limits for the MD but the Vit D Council indicates it is still low so I'm still taking it. And I too have been having lots of health problems.

 

Good info here: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

 

EJ

Amanda Adams <river_willow76 >herbal remedies Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 7:58:53 AM{Herbal Remedies} Vitamin D deficiency

 

 

 

 

 

I am just now learning about the effects of Vitamin D. Ive always been very health conscious so it surprises me that I hadnt already learned about this. It seems though that if I AM deficient in this vitamin that would explain alot of my health problems right now.

 

My question is, if I want to be sure that my children and myself are getting enough vitamin D, how do I go about this. How much are we even suppose to have anyway? I have also read a little about over doing it and how it can be toxic. This does concern me quite a bit. I know the sun provides some but what else can I do? Is it a bad thing to have your kids on Vitamin D supplements?

 

I also read that if you are going to start supplementing this vitamin then you also have to take extra calcium and magnesium in order for things to work out right. Is this true?

 

Thanks

River

 

 

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I am wondering what is the most bio available form of D3 to take...does anyone have good info on that?...Is there a food source for it?d--- On Tue, 8/11/09, ejohns9525 <ejohns9525 wrote:ejohns9525 <ejohns9525Re: {Herbal Remedies} Vitamin D deficiencyherbal remedies Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

River,

 

My MD is the one who tested me for low Vit D. ( I hardly ever venture to one) He was alarmed at just how low it was so I started supplementing with D 3 in much higher doses than he recommended because I did some research via the internet. It has taken one year to get it up to the lowest acceptable limits for the MD but the Vit D Council indicates it is still low so I'm still taking it. And I too have been having lots of health problems.

 

Good info here: http://www.vitamind council.org/

 

EJ

Amanda Adams <river_willow76@ >herbal remediesSaturday, August 8, 2009 7:58:53 AM{Herbal Remedies} Vitamin D deficiency

 

 

 

 

 

I am just now learning about the effects of Vitamin D. Ive always been very health conscious so it surprises me that I hadnt already learned about this. It seems though that if I AM deficient in this vitamin that would explain alot of my health problems right now.

 

My question is, if I want to be sure that my children and myself are getting enough vitamin D, how do I go about this. How much are we even suppose to have anyway? I have also read a little about over doing it and how it can be toxic. This does concern me quite a bit. I know the sun provides some but what else can I do? Is it a bad thing to have your kids on Vitamin D supplements?

 

I also read that if you are going to start supplementing this vitamin then you also have to take extra calcium and magnesium in order for things to work out right. Is this true?

 

Thanks

River