Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Hi All, I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; -bergamot bergapten free -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) -neroli -mandarin (???) in small amounts Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! Rebecca www.kadria-massage.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Geranium would be good I think but it is a middle note with a high odor intensity. ATFE , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > -bergamot bergapten free > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > -neroli > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > Rebecca > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Bitter orange is phototoxic but I think that sweet orange is not. It is also softening. ATFE , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > -bergamot bergapten free > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > -neroli > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > Rebecca > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Bitter orange is phototoxic but I think that sweet orange is not. It is also softening. ATFE , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > -bergamot bergapten free > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > -neroli > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > Rebecca > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I use Geranium also. ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of eternityjah Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:55 PM ATFE Re: top notes eo's Geranium would be good I think but it is a middle note with a high odor intensity. ATFE <ATFE%40> , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > -bergamot bergapten free > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > -neroli > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > Rebecca > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 At 04:06 AM 3/25/2010, you wrote: >I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am >having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- >as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not >even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; a lot would depend on what other oils you are using... possibly Palma Rosa... actually I'd not be as concerned about balancing the blend with top, heart and base notes as I would be the functions the oils serve. Since 1995 - supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Website: http://www.naturesgift.com Blog: http://naturesgiftaromatherapy.blogspot.com/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NaturesGift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Thanks Marge, You have just made things a lot simpler for me... Thanks everyone else for their suggestions also. Rebecca www.kadria-massage.co.uk ATFE , Marge Clark <marge wrote: > > At 04:06 AM 3/25/2010, you wrote: > >I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am > >having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- > >as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not > >even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > a lot would depend on what other oils you are using... possibly Palma > Rosa... actually I'd not be as concerned about balancing the blend with > top, heart and base notes as I would be the functions the oils serve. > > > > Since 1995 - supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals > Website: > http://www.naturesgift.com Blog: > http://naturesgiftaromatherapy.blogspot.com/ > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NaturesGift > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 As its the expressed citrus oils (expressed from the peels) which are said to be phototoxic, this wouldn't apply to the distilled oils such as neroli (Citrus sinensis varieties, flowers) or petitgrain (small fruits, leaves and flowers) which are distilled oils. However, these latter ones, are very rare, expensive oils, and adulteration is frequent if not the custom, containing more often than not even more toxic synthetic compounds..True though, they make an excellent immediate scent sensation, if natural.. And then, every honestly distilled essential oil will by itself have a top- middle and bottom note to it.. Some oils smell aggressive pinelike in the beginning, then reveil a more soft and deep undertone, then may become entirely different, maybe smouthly pleasant, maybe stale and indifferent, maybe revolting upon drying out... If you are trying to compose a moisturizer, topnote to you may mean the immediate feeling of scent, the immediate feeling of luxury and pleasure that the scent can give to the person using it. To compose a perfume, which will stay and surround the person however, you would need to compose a mixture keeping all this in mind.. the immediate pleasure, the comfort of surrounding, embracing and evolving, but also the dry out, the residue.. I am not a perfumer, I am sure there are better words. Sure there are other rules. And adding a fixative oil, an oil which can carry the scent, as well as being a good ingredient in a moisturizer for skin because of its cell-regenerating action, such as Daucus carota or Laurus nobilis is always an option.. Good luck to you Janina www.wildherbsofcrete.com www.wildherbsofcrete.blogspot.com ATFE , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > -bergamot bergapten free > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > -neroli > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > Rebecca > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 As its the expressed citrus oils (expressed from the peels) which are said to be phototoxic, this wouldn't apply to the distilled oils such as neroli (Citrus sinensis varieties, flowers) or petitgrain (small fruits, leaves and flowers) which are distilled oils. However, these latter ones, are very rare, expensive oils, and adulteration is frequent if not the custom, containing more often than not even more toxic synthetic compounds..True though, they make an excellent immediate scent sensation, if natural.. And then, every honestly distilled essential oil will by itself have a top- middle and bottom note to it.. Some oils smell aggressive pinelike in the beginning, then reveil a more soft and deep undertone, then may become entirely different, maybe smouthly pleasant, maybe stale and indifferent, maybe revolting upon drying out... If you are trying to compose a moisturizer, topnote to you may mean the immediate feeling of scent, the immediate feeling of luxury and pleasure that the scent can give to the person using it. To compose a perfume, which will stay and surround the person however, you would need to compose a mixture keeping all this in mind.. the immediate pleasure, the comfort of surrounding, embracing and evolving, but also the dry out, the residue.. I am not a perfumer, I am sure there are better words. Sure there are other rules. And adding a fixative oil, an oil which can carry the scent, as well as being a good ingredient in a moisturizer for skin because of its cell-regenerating action, such as Daucus carota or Laurus nobilis is always an option.. Good luck to you Janina www.wildherbsofcrete.com www.wildherbsofcrete.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Thanks Janina, I have made the blend and it is lovely and simple and has a mixture of expensive and inexpensive oils which is nice. Rebecca www.kadria-massage.co.uk ATFE , " Janina " <janinaherb wrote: > > > As its the expressed citrus oils (expressed from the peels) which are said to be phototoxic, this wouldn't apply to the distilled oils such as neroli (Citrus sinensis varieties, flowers) or petitgrain (small fruits, leaves and flowers) which are distilled oils. > However, these latter ones, are very rare, expensive oils, and adulteration is frequent if not the custom, containing more often than not even more toxic synthetic compounds..True though, they make an excellent immediate scent sensation, if natural.. > > And then, every honestly distilled essential oil will by itself have a top- middle and bottom note to it.. Some oils smell aggressive pinelike in the beginning, then reveil a more soft and deep undertone, then may become entirely different, maybe smouthly pleasant, maybe stale and indifferent, maybe revolting upon drying out... > > If you are trying to compose a moisturizer, topnote to you may mean the immediate feeling of scent, the immediate feeling of luxury and pleasure that the scent can give to the person using it. > To compose a perfume, which will stay and surround the person however, you would need to compose a mixture keeping all this in mind.. the immediate pleasure, the comfort of surrounding, embracing and evolving, but also the dry out, the residue.. > > I am not a perfumer, I am sure there are better words. Sure there are other rules. > > And adding a fixative oil, an oil which can carry the scent, as well as being a good ingredient in a moisturizer for skin because of its cell-regenerating action, such as Daucus carota or Laurus nobilis is always an option.. > > Good luck to you > > Janina > > www.wildherbsofcrete.com > www.wildherbsofcrete.blogspot.com > ATFE , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk@> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > > > -bergamot bergapten free > > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > > -neroli > > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > > > Rebecca > > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sweet Orange is also phototoxic. eternityjah <eternityjah Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:16 PM ATFE Re: top notes eo's Bitter orange is phototoxic but I think that sweet orange is not. It is also softening. ATFE , " bespecticler " <rebecca_wright_uk wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am trying to create an essential oil blend for a moisturiser but i am having difficulty finding top note essential oils that are not phototoxic- as all the citrus oils seem to be. I can think of only a few and I am not even sure I am correct, here is my tiny list; > > -bergamot bergapten free > -petitgrain (not that keen on the scent of this and neroli-both I find quite similar - might me the blocked nose) > -neroli > -mandarin (???) in small amounts > > Does anyone have any suggestions as i am getting quite frustrated with the endless blending! > > Rebecca > www.kadria-massage.co.uk > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New TopicMessages in this topic (8) Recent Activity: New Members 2 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • [The entire original message is not included] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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