RE: Hiccups

July 13, 2002

Hi Jesse,

This is rebellious Stomach Qi. It is not a pattern on its own.

This is a failure of the Stomach's descending function.

You mentioned the foods you removed but what are the

foods that you are eating?

Stomach-Fire and Cold invading the Stomach are two

patterns that Maciocia mentions pg. 271 in

" Foundations.... "

You can reduce-needle or do acupressure on P-6, SP-4,

REN-13, REN-10. Or think of 10 bald men you know,

drink water from the opposite side of the glass (while

standing on your head), breath into a paper bag.....

or just visualize that poor guy that had 'em for 40 yrs! ;-D Kit

At 10:17 PM 7/12/02 +0000, you wrote:

Hi All,

I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that

I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have

newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet

and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each

time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of

intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat,

processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In

any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it

might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what

to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other

reactive food and they are gone.

Any thoughts?

Thank you so much,

Jessi

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July 13, 2002

Hello All,

I am new in TCM , I have a beuty saloon and

health care service in Kuwait, We are doing

acupressur, cuping , facial massage and all body

massage.

I am in need of therapist lady from China who can

speak english . if you can help me by giving me

any refrence in China to contact, i appreciate.

Thanking yo, regards for all

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Hi Jesse,

This is rebellious Stomach Qi. It is not a

pattern on its own.

This is a failure of the Stomach's descending

function.

You mentioned the foods you removed but what are

the

foods that you are eating?

Stomach-Fire and Cold invading the Stomach are

two

patterns that Maciocia mentions pg. 271 in

& quot;Foundations.... & quot;

You can reduce-needle or do acupressure on P-6,

SP-4,

REN-13, REN-10. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; Or think of 10

bald men you know,

drink water from the opposite side of the glass

(while

standing on your head), breath into a paper

bag.....

or just visualize that poor guy that had 'em for

40 yrs! ;-D & nbsp; Kit

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I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a

question that

I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I

have

newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance

diet

and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This

happens each

time I do this diet which ultimately involves

removal of

intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy,

wheat,

processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the

idea! In

any case, I've looked on the net and it seems

like it

might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not

sure what

to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or

other

reactive food and they are gone.

Any thoughts?

Thank you so much,

Jessi

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July 13, 2002

Hi Kit,

Thanks for the reply. I have pretty much been eating as cleanly as possible,

veggies, fish, occasional beef and chicken, sprouted grain bread, brown

rice, millet, skim organic milk and organic espresso.

Jessi

Kit wrote:

Hi Jesse,

This is rebellious Stomach Qi. It is not a pattern on its own.

This is a failure of the Stomach's descending function.

You mentioned the foods you removed but what are the

foods that you are eating?

Stomach-Fire and Cold invading the Stomach are two

patterns that Maciocia mentions pg. 271 in "Foundations...."

You can reduce-needle or do acupressure on P-6, SP-4,

REN-13, REN-10. Or think of 10 bald men you know,

drink water from the opposite side of the glass (while

standing on your head), breath into a paper bag.....

or just visualize that poor guy that had 'em for 40 yrs! ;-D

Kit

At 10:17 PM 7/12/02 +0000, you wrote:

Hi All,

I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that

I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have

newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet

and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each

time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of

intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat,

processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In

any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it

might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what

to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other

reactive food and they are gone.

Any thoughts?

Thank you so much,

Jessi

July 13, 2002

This is a Frenchman's advise : Try RED WINE - Merlot, Cabernet and Shiraz

- lots of good elements in this - White wine's fermentation process is

not complete - bad for cramps - and Gamay or Pinot tastes better

at the beginning, before you hava educated your palate, but they do not

provide the same micronutrients.

Remember : one of the secrets of longevity is the regular absorption

of small quanitities of alcohol ; Sake, Soju, Wine... Until last year,

the oldest living person in the world (Actually documented) was French,

she died at 121 years if I am not mistaken, and was drinking a little glass

of wien daily.

Red Wine contaisn Tanins that coat the lining of your stomach.

Like for everything else - balance and moderation is the key - one

to three glasses a day based on your constitution.

Frederic

"T. Jessica Miller" wrote:

Hi Kit,

Thanks for the reply. I have pretty much been eating as cleanly as possible,

veggies, fish, occasional beef and chicken, sprouted grain bread, brown

rice, millet, skim organic milk and organic espresso.

Jessi

Kit wrote:

Hi Jesse,

This is rebellious Stomach Qi. It is not a pattern on its own.

This is a failure of the Stomach's descending function.

You mentioned the foods you removed but what are the

foods that you are eating?

Stomach-Fire and Cold invading the Stomach are two

patterns that Maciocia mentions pg. 271 in "Foundations...."

You can reduce-needle or do acupressure on P-6, SP-4,

REN-13, REN-10. Or think of 10 bald men you know,

drink water from the opposite side of the glass (while

standing on your head), breath into a paper bag.....

or just visualize that poor guy that had 'em for 40 yrs! ;-D

Kit

At 10:17 PM 7/12/02 +0000, you wrote:

Hi All,

I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that

I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have

newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet

and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each

time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of

intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat,

processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In

any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it

might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what

to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other

reactive food and they are gone.

Any thoughts?

Thank you so much,

Jessi

July 13, 2002

jessimiller wrote:

>> I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question

that I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I

have newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance

diet and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This

happens each time I do this diet which ultimately

involves removal of intolerant/allergic foods such as

sugar, dairy, wheat, processed foods, chocolate,

sweets, you get the idea! In any case, I've looked on

the net and it seems like it might be Liver attacking

Stomach, but I am not sure what to do about this. BTW,

a little sugar, chips, or other reactive food and they

are gone. <<

In Jin Shin acupressure, holding the points on the

last rib directly under the nipples (Sp 16) can

relieve hiccups. You don't need to press hard, just

hold them for a minute or so.

sue

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suzee wrote:

>

> jessimiller wrote:

>

> >> I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question

> that I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I

> have newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance

> diet and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This

> happens each time I do this diet which ultimately

> involves removal of intolerant/allergic foods such as

> sugar, dairy, wheat, processed foods, chocolate,

> sweets, you get the idea! In any case, I've looked on

> the net and it seems like it might be Liver attacking

> Stomach, but I am not sure what to do about this. BTW,

> a little sugar, chips, or other reactive food and they

> are gone. <<

>

> In Jin Shin acupressure, holding the points on the

> last rib directly under the nipples (Sp 16) can

> relieve hiccups. You don't need to press hard, just

> hold them for a minute or so.

Pericardium 6 is popularly used for nausea and vomiting, another

expression of rebellious stomach qi. Might be worth your while to press

on that till it aches too.

--

Al Stone L.Ac.

<AlStone

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Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

July 13, 2002

I've been running a running a little experiment whenever I (rarely) get the hiccups and can also remember that I'm running the experiment.

Acupressure at GB 21 "shoulder well".

So far it's worked every time on myself but once.

I've only had one opportunity to experiment with it on someone else and then I sort of blew it.

A friend asked me if I had a hiccup cure.

I said I might and was given permission

but just as I was about to lean in with my elbows I remembered that GB 21 is contraindicated on pregnant people,

so me being me,

I had to ask.

The man started laughing so hard to my inquiry if he was pregnant that the hiccups were no longer a problem.

Penel

July 15, 2002

Hi Jessi,

I am new to TCM, too. I went on an anti-allergy diet a couple weeks ago and my tummy was not up to par either. However, my Dr. said no caffiene, eggs, dairy, soy, peanuts, shellfish, beef, wheat, or corn. I saw you ate some caffiene (coffee) and dairy and beef. I ate rice, oatmeal, veggies and fruit, small amounts of chicken, turkey and fish. I have terrible digestion, constipation, etc... since the diet I have been regular anyway, but i don't know why I had all the stomach upset. i have to do the diet again, because the holiday came and I had to eat something to celebrate! ; } P.S. I always get hiccups before I start... weird, huh?

jessimiller wrote: Hi All,I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat, processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other reactive food and they are gone. :)Any thoughts?Thank you so much,Jessi Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine

July 16, 2002

Hi Jessi,

I've had daily hiccups for about 15 years now (am 26), luckily not so bad

anymore in the last years.

Guess what " cured " it...

You know there's always lots of sayings about " why " someone has hiccups:

someone thinking of you, the boyfriend thinking of you and kissing another, li'l

heart grows, and stuff like that.

A new friend of mine plainly stated: " I believe that you get hiccups when

you're thinking about sex. " I never did before, but now, everytime that hiccup

came back, I had to grin from one ear to the other.

The hiccups were gone after a week and haven't come back. Sometimes, after

drinking something cold or eating to fast, I get a single hiccup, have to

smile and - it's gone.

So I guess that hiccups have to do lots with tension, and laughing - even

smiling - releases that.

Could it be you're constantly thinking of sex, too, after eating?

Best regards

Rebecca

> Hi All,

>

> I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that

> I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have

> newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet

> and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each

> time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of

> intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat,

> processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In

> any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it

> might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what

> to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other

> reactive food and they are gone.

>

> Any thoughts?

>

> Thank you so much,

>

> Jessi

>

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July 16, 2002

Rebecca,

WOW!!!!!!! You are right!!!!! Had the hiccups, smiled, they are gone!

Thanks!

pai.mu.tan wrote: Hi Jessi,I've had daily hiccups for about 15 years now (am 26), luckily not so badanymore in the last years.Guess what "cured" it... You know there's always lots of sayings about "why" someone has hiccups:someone thinking of you, the boyfriend thinking of you and kissing another, li'lheart grows, and stuff like that.A new friend of mine plainly stated: "I believe that you get hiccups whenyou're thinking about sex." I never did before, but now, everytime that hiccupcame back, I had to grin from one ear to the other. The hiccups were gone after a week and haven't come back. Sometimes, afterdrinking something cold or eating to fast, I get a single hiccup, have tosmile and - it's gone.So I guess that hiccups have to do lots with tension, and laughing - evensmiling - releases that.Could it be you're constantly thinking of sex, too, after eating? ;)Best regardsRebecca > Hi All,> > I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that > I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have > newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet > and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each > time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of > intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat, > processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In > any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it > might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what > to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other > reactive food and they are gone. > > Any thoughts?> > Thank you so much,> > Jessi> > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page:> /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > >

July 21, 2002

As I understand it, hiccups are a set of involuntary contractions of

the diaphragm. Ever since I started abdominal breathing, the

breathing method recommended in every Eastern philosophy

I've known in addition to many many modern medical experts,

I've never had a single case of the hiccups in memory except for

when they're brought on by burping, which is trapped gas

causing the contraction. Not to mention all the other

mental/physical benefits of abdominal breathing.

Might work for you too!

Chinese Traditional Medicine, Tiffany Webwise Westie <tiffytel>

wrote:

>

> Rebecca,

> WOW!!!!!!! You are right!!!!! Had the hiccups, smiled, they are

gone!

> Thanks!

> pai.mu.tan@g... wrote: Hi Jessi,

>

> I've had daily hiccups for about 15 years now (am 26), luckily

not so bad

> anymore in the last years.

> Guess what " cured " it...

> You know there's always lots of sayings about " why " someone

has hiccups:

> someone thinking of you, the boyfriend thinking of you and

kissing another, li'l

> heart grows, and stuff like that.

> A new friend of mine plainly stated: " I believe that you get

hiccups when

> you're thinking about sex. " I never did before, but now,

everytime that hiccup

> came back, I had to grin from one ear to the other.

> The hiccups were gone after a week and haven't come back.

Sometimes, after

> drinking something cold or eating to fast, I get a single hiccup,

have to

> smile and - it's gone.

>

> So I guess that hiccups have to do lots with tension, and

laughing - even

> smiling - releases that.

>

> Could it be you're constantly thinking of sex, too, after eating?

>

> Best regards

> Rebecca

>

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that

> > I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have

> > newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet

> > and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each

> > time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of

> > intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat,

> > processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In

> > any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it

> > might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what

> > to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other

> > reactive food and they are gone.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Thank you so much,

> >

> > Jessi

> >

> > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine@o...

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July 22, 2002

Hi All!

Thank you for the hiccup suggestions and I'm so sorry for my delay in response!

I am wondering is there something diet-wise that can help as well?

Rebecca, my husband really wishes it was me thinking of sex more often!

LOL. I'll try the smiling tip, but since I've written, I haven't

had them. Of course....

Thanks again,

Jessi

lr4444lr wrote:

As I understand it, hiccups are a set of

involuntary contractions of

the diaphragm. Ever since I started abdominal breathing, the

breathing method recommended in every Eastern philosophy

I've known in addition to many many modern medical experts,

I've never had a single case of the hiccups in memory except for

when they're brought on by burping, which is trapped gas

causing the contraction. Not to mention all the other

mental/physical benefits of abdominal breathing.

Might work for you too!

Chinese Traditional Medicine, Tiffany Webwise Westie <tiffytel>

wrote:

>

> Rebecca,

> WOW!!!!!!! You are right!!!!! Had the hiccups, smiled,

they are

gone!

> Thanks!

> pai.mu.tan@g... wrote: Hi Jessi,

>

> I've had daily hiccups for about 15 years now (am 26), luckily

not so bad

> anymore in the last years.

> Guess what "cured" it...

> You know there's always lots of sayings about "why" someone

has hiccups:

> someone thinking of you, the boyfriend thinking of you and

kissing another, li'l

> heart grows, and stuff like that.

> A new friend of mine plainly stated: "I believe that you get

hiccups when

> you're thinking about sex." I never did before, but now,

everytime that hiccup

> came back, I had to grin from one ear to the other.

> The hiccups were gone after a week and haven't come back.

Sometimes, after

> drinking something cold or eating to fast, I get a single hiccup,

have to

> smile and - it's gone.

>

> So I guess that hiccups have to do lots with tension, and

laughing - even

> smiling - releases that.

>

> Could it be you're constantly thinking of sex, too, after eating?

>

> Best regards

> Rebecca

>

> > Hi All,

> >

> > I'm new to the list and to TCM, and have a question that

> > I can't seem to get satisfactorily answered. I have

> > newly started on an anti food allergy/intolerance diet

> > and keep getting hiccups after I eat. This happens each

> > time I do this diet which ultimately involves removal of

> > intolerant/allergic foods such as sugar, dairy, wheat,

> > processed foods, chocolate, sweets, you get the idea! In

> > any case, I've looked on the net and it seems like it

> > might be Liver attacking Stomach, but I am not sure what

> > to do about this. BTW, a little sugar, chips, or other

> > reactive food and they are gone.

> >

> > Any thoughts?

> >

> > Thank you so much,

> >

> > Jessi

> >

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July 23, 2002

In a message dated 07/23/2002 2:50:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

alstone writes:

<< Among the causes of hiccoughs is Stomach Cold. Since TCM looks at

cinnamon bark as an interior warmer, I can see how this herb would be

good for that kind of hiccough.

>>

It seems that I recall the person with the hiccups was eating alot of cooling

foods. Millet stands out in my mind as one, and millet is very cooling in

nature. Either a switch to more warming foods or the addition of warming

herbs and spice could prove very helpful.

Lynn

July 23, 2002

Hello dorafields,

Rou Gui (cinnamon bark) is generally used to warm the

Kidneys and fortify the Yang. It would be used in wheezing

where there is a failure of the Kidneys to grasp the Lung Qi.

Tho, since Chinese herbs, with the exception of a few, are

always prescribed in a formula it is possible that for some

patients Rou Gui might be included. Kit

PS. There have been lots of good suggestions but

I will repost the earlier TCM dx for hiccups:

Hi Jesse,

This is rebellious Stomach Qi. It is not a pattern on its own.

This is a failure of the Stomach's descending function.

You mentioned the foods you removed but what are the

foods that you are eating?

Stomach-Fire and Cold invading the Stomach are two

patterns that Maciocia mentions pg. 271 in

" Foundations.... "

You can reduce-needle or do acupressure on P-6, SP-4,

REN-13, REN-10. Or think of 10 bald men you know,

drink water from the opposite side of the glass (while

standing on your head), breath into a paper bag.....

or just visualize that poor guy that had 'em for 40 yrs! ;-D Kit

At 09:26 PM 7/23/02 +0000, you wrote:

just a quick note from a new person in

this group about hiccups. i

hear that cinnamon bark also works although i have to say that i'm

not sure this is a chinese medical technique but it has been used in

ayurveda for thousands of years so it is entirely possible...hmmm i

wonder.

July 23, 2002

dorafields wrote:

>

> just a quick note from a new person in this group about hiccups. i

> hear that cinnamon bark also works although i have to say that i'm

> not sure this is a chinese medical technique but it has been used in

> ayurveda for thousands of years so it is entirely possible...hmmm i

> wonder.

Among the causes of hiccoughs is Stomach Cold. Since TCM looks at

cinnamon bark as an interior warmer, I can see how this herb would be

good for that kind of hiccough.

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