Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 http://www.gaianstudies.org/documents/IHSOPEN.pdf Thanks, Anya, for posting that link. That was a deep, insightful presentation. Will re-read frequently, and pass on. Now I have to find out about Japanese knotweed and Lyme disease. In the speech they are mentioned as an example of herbs appearing in an area at the same time as a disease agent. We have a total over-population of white tail deer here. AND Japanese knotweed has been signalled as an invasive species. Hmm. Perhaps we should let the knotweed be until the wolves and cougars return in sufficient numbers, or the rednecks teach the hippies to hunt. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Can I just say that I absolutely love this theory (is there a name for it?) that plants grow where needed for health. I thought of this when dandelions were everywhere in the spring/early summer...time to cleanse and detox the liver. This would sound crazypants to a lot people but as far as I'm concerned, we know ZILCH about how intelligent and complex this planet is. This also reminds me of an amazing article I read in The Walrus about South American shamans sleeping next to plants in order for the plants to communicate their medicinal purposes via dream state. Jessica Burman Cocoon Apothecary www.cocoonapothecary.com jessica (519)497-9546 On 12-Nov-09, at 12:13 AM, Marcia Elston wrote: > Hi Ien, > > I began noticing about 10 years ago that st. johnswort was encroaching > closer to highways and sprouting up on city sidewalks. Now, it is > practically everywhere. I always attributed that to Nature > providing (as > she does so well), just as the Japanese knotweed for Lymes disease. > After > all, look at the stress levels and resulant anxiety, depression > that has > developed in those years. Nature is not oblivious to what we need; > it's > just a shame that the royal *we* don't pay much attention. > > Be Well, > Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence > http://www.wingedseed.com > http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com > http://www.aromaconnection.org > " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " > - Winston > Churchill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Several of us have fought for years against the creeping corporate takeover of indie and microbusinesses, seeing how they are using more and more the US government as their tool in promulgating regulations that are a hardship on microbusinesses. The future of our businesses is in immediate danger. Several organizations that represent indie and microbusinesses are in lockstep with the FDA and tweeting and blogging about their 'victories " with legislators, either blinded or too blind to see the horrible demise in store for our businesses - they should be fighting the FDA, not kowtowing to it, giddy with " making progress " . They're not, they're being fooled. Please everyone - don't be the frog in the pot of cool water who never feels the heat being turned up until it is too late and he's cooked. Read this following speech, given at the International Herb Symposium by Stephen Buhner and pass it around, and more importantly, ask those who are all puffed up and happy that the FDA and legislative lackeys of the corporate world that seeks to destroy our businesses why they don't see this coming: http://www.gaianstudies.org/documents/IHSOPEN.pdf -- All my best, http://NaturalPerfumers.com on FB http://bit.ly/iamja Guild on FB http://bit.ly/1jP5lB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Hi Jessica, We probably can ascribe this theory as a subset of the feedback mechanisms within the Gaia Theory put forth by James Lovelock, which has to do with homeostasis of the Earth's ecosystems . . . I don't think this idea, specifically, has been identified as a theoretical concept on its own. Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill On Behalf Of Cocoon Apothecary Friday, November 13, 2009 7:47 AM Re: The Evil Stepmother and The Father Who Would Not See Can I just say that I absolutely love this theory (is there a name for it?) that plants grow where needed for health. I thought of this when dandelions were everywhere in the spring/early summer...time to cleanse and detox the liver. This would sound crazypants to a lot people but as far as I'm concerned, we know ZILCH about how intelligent and complex this planet is. This also reminds me of an amazing article I read in The Walrus about South American shamans sleeping next to plants in order for the plants to communicate their medicinal purposes via dream state. Jessica Burman Cocoon Apothecary www.cocoonapothecary.com jessica (519)497-9546 On 12-Nov-09, at 12:13 AM, Marcia Elston wrote: > Hi Ien, > > I began noticing about 10 years ago that st. johnswort was encroaching > closer to highways and sprouting up on city sidewalks. Now, it is > practically everywhere. I always attributed that to Nature providing > (as she does so well), just as the Japanese knotweed for Lymes > disease. > After > all, look at the stress levels and resulant anxiety, depression that > has developed in those years. Nature is not oblivious to what we need; > it's just a shame that the royal *we* don't pay much attention. > > Be Well, > Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence > http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com > http://www.aromaconnection.org > " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " > - Winston > Churchill > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I think the theory would be present in ethnobotany as well. On 13-Nov-09, at 4:33 PM, Marcia Elston wrote: > Hi Jessica, > We probably can ascribe this theory as a subset of the feedback > mechanisms > within the Gaia Theory put forth by James Lovelock, which has to do > with > homeostasis of the Earth's ecosystems . . . I don't think this idea, > specifically, has been identified as a theoretical concept on its own. > > Be Well, > Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence > http://www.wingedseed.com > http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com > http://www.aromaconnection.org > " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " > - Winston > Churchill > > > > > On Behalf Of Cocoon Apothecary > Friday, November 13, 2009 7:47 AM > > Re: The Evil Stepmother and The Father > Who Would > Not See > > Can I just say that I absolutely love this theory (is there a name > for it?) > that plants grow where needed for health. I thought of this when > dandelions > were everywhere in the spring/early summer...time to cleanse and > detox the > liver. This would sound crazypants to a lot people but as far as I'm > concerned, we know ZILCH about how intelligent and complex this > planet is. > > This also reminds me of an amazing article I read in The Walrus > about South > American shamans sleeping next to plants in order for the plants to > communicate their medicinal purposes via dream state. > > Jessica Burman > Cocoon Apothecary > www.cocoonapothecary.com > jessica > (519)497-9546 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Yes, absolutely. This concept is so engrained in native tribes and indigenous people's relationship with the earth and medicines it goes without saying in their world. They look upon us with incredulity of our ignorance in this regard. Since we so-called civilized (mostly white) (wo)man drifted away from our grounding in herbal medicine and into allopathy around the turn of the last century, we are the ones who have to re-invent the knowledge and language for our own people, which we are doing. I think there is a growing movement in that direction and the increasing failure of synthetic medicines, corporate farming, etc. supports us. There are many who believe not that the world is coming to an end in 2012, but that there will be a major paradigm shift in consciousness and evolutionary growth. We have proven that the big evolutionary growth shifts in the past have been tied to massive environmental changes, of course, which we are facing now. Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill On Behalf Of Cocoon Apothecary Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:57 AM Re: The Evil Stepmother and The Father Who Would Not See I think the theory would be present in ethnobotany as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I agree with many of the sentiments in this pdf. What you in the USA need to understand though is that the cretins in the Civil Service love creating work for themselves by drafting all kinds of laws. Here in the European Union we have exactly the same kind of cretins churning out a paper chain of new laws. The European Union make all kinds of laws and then 90% of the member countries simply ignore them. They are rarely enforced. In the aroma industry in the UK, Italy and France in particular, the rogue businesses continue operating illegally (under EEC laws), and absolutely nothing happens. My guess is that you in the USA will find a similar position if the FDA gets additional laws to enforce. After all, they have never got to grips with Young Living let alone all the thousands of aromatherapy webs sites making illegal claims under existing legislation. I am not saying ignore what is happening, but the cottage industries in aromatherapy and natural perfumery are not going to stop what the Civil Servants and politicians want to do. I very much doubt the impact on small businesses will be anything like as great as some are suggesting. Martin Watt http://www.aromamedical.com http://www.aromamedical.org ATFE , Perfumes <anya wrote: > > Several of us have fought for years against the creeping corporate > takeover of indie and microbusinesses, seeing how they are using more > and more the US government as their tool in promulgating regulations > that are a hardship on microbusinesses. The future of our businesses is > in immediate danger. Several organizations that represent indie and > microbusinesses are in lockstep with the FDA and tweeting and blogging > about their 'victories " with legislators, either blinded or too blind to > see the horrible demise in store for our businesses - they should be > fighting the FDA, not kowtowing to it, giddy with " making progress " . > They're not, they're being fooled. > > Please everyone - don't be the frog in the pot of cool water who never > feels the heat being turned up until it is too late and he's cooked. > > Read this following speech, given at the International Herb Symposium > by Stephen Buhner and pass it around, and more importantly, ask those > who are all puffed up and happy that the FDA and legislative lackeys of > the corporate world that seeks to destroy our businesses why they don't > see this coming: > > http://www.gaianstudies.org/documents/IHSOPEN.pdf > > -- > All my best, > Anya > > http://NaturalPerfumers.com > on FB http://bit.ly/iamja > Guild on FB http://bit.ly/1jP5lB > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Anya, I appreciate you sharing the link. However, it's too bad your history within the industry, for getting into dysfunctional and unprofessional personal fights and throwing around insults and general " crazy-making " , probably will result in most not bothering to follow your link. Personally, I wish the FDA would take the laws already on the books more seriously and fine all the " Mom and Pop " businesses & corporations making false claims on their products such as " FDA certified essential oils " or " organic " ...or my pet peeve, I wish they would define " natural " within the FDA regulations so consumers have at least a benchmark for the meaning, if not actual protection from those synthetic products falsly claimed to be natural. Martin, as for the cretins who are civil servants; people are people and making generalizations and name calling serves no purpose other than to add more negativity to the planet. WHY go there? My kids both work for the Deptartment of Environmental Protection every summer and/or seasonally and working for the state, or the US government, does not make one a cretin. Just as being self-employed does not make one superior in any way, shape or form. Sue www.apito.info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 >My kids both work for the Deptartment of Environmental Protection >every summer and/or seasonally and working for the >state, or the US government, does not make one a cretin. Good for them. When I refer to the cretins in the Civil Service I am meaning the top managers. Can't think of any US or UK Government department that is not managed by unthinking clones. Just take a look at the endless paperchains of idiotic regulations constantly being churned out. At the Senators who rubber stamp them assuming their advisers know what they are talking about-often not so, lack of regulation of institutions that can affect the worlds economy, etc. The lousy management of major nations institutions is down to a failure of effective management among the Civil Services. Complaining about such matters is far from negative, it makes people question and think about remedies. Martin ATFE , " SUSAN " <sueapito wrote: > > Anya, I appreciate you sharing the link. However, it's too bad your history within the industry, for getting into dysfunctional and unprofessional personal fights and throwing around insults and general " crazy-making " , probably will result in most not bothering to follow your link. > > Personally, I wish the FDA would take the laws already on the books more seriously and fine all the " Mom and Pop " businesses & corporations making false claims on their products such as " FDA certified essential oils " or " organic " ...or my pet peeve, I wish they would define " natural " within the FDA regulations so consumers have at least a benchmark for the meaning, if not actual protection from those synthetic products falsly claimed to be natural. > > Martin, as for the cretins who are civil servants; people are people and making generalizations and name calling serves no purpose other than to add more negativity to the planet. WHY go there? My kids both work for the Deptartment of Environmental Protection every summer and/or seasonally and working for the state, or the US government, does not make one a cretin. Just as being self-employed does not make one superior in any way, shape or form. > > Sue www.apito.info > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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