Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we are mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) .....they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, mothers and sisters, so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be free.... it don't matter if you are black or white..... any thoughts on this? Sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 ATFE , " Sylla S. Hanger " <sylla wrote: > > Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it > > major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we are mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) .....they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, mothers and sisters, > > so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be free.... > > it don't matter if you are black or white..... > any thoughts on this? > > Sylla > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Der Sylla, Does Robbi Zeck realize that without a strong army and our sons and daughters out there serving our country that she would not have the " right " to be a " conscientious objector " ? Does she not realize that she would not be able to be free if not for our military? We may not always agree with the politics but we do need to support our children that are out there. What you are doing with the UAE is important for the morale and well-being of our children. Maybe Robbi should take a vacation to a country that does not have freedoms that we enjoy here in our country. Proud to be a Supporter of our American Service Men and Women Rhavda Emison Proud Mother of a US Marine about to go to Afghanistan Original Message: ----------------- Sylla S. Hanger sylla Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:37:14 -0500 ATFE totally off topic, what the ... Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we are mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) ......they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, mothers and sisters, so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be free.... it don't matter if you are black or white..... any thoughts on this? Sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 > Der Sylla, > Does Robbi Zeck realize that without a strong army and our sons and > daughters out there serving our country that she would not have the " right " > to be a " conscientious objector " ? Does she not realize that she would not > be able to be free if not for our military? We may not always agree with > the politics but we do need to support our children that are out there. > What you are doing with the UAE is important for the morale and well-being > of our children. Maybe Robbi should take a vacation to a country that does > not have freedoms that we enjoy here in our country. > Proud to be a Supporter of our American Service Men and Women > Rhavda Emison > Proud Mother of a US Marine about to go to Afghanistan > > > Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the > Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to > dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it > > major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a > conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an > opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we > are mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) > .....they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, > brothers and fathers, mothers and sisters, > > so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be > free.... > > it don't matter if you are black or white..... > > any thoughts on this? > > Sylla > You both said it so well and want to show my support for our troops. Sue TheLavenderCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 WHOA this is not about ROBBIE, just following on from her class so perhaps Im more sensitive since the class but not about her ! she is totally supportive! Sylla Der Sylla, Does Robbi Zeck realize that without a strong army and our sons and daughters out there serving our country that she would not have the " right " to be a " conscientious objector " ? Does she not realize that she would not be able to be free if not for our military? We may not always agree with the politics but we do need to support our children that are out there. What you are doing with the UAE is important for the morale and well-being of our children. Maybe Robbi should take a vacation to a country that does not have freedoms that we enjoy here in our country. Proud to be a Supporter of our American Service Men and Women Rhavda Emison Proud Mother of a US Marine about to go to Afghanistan Original Message: ----------------- Sylla S. Hanger sylla Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:37:14 -0500 ATFE totally off topic, what the ... Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we are mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) .....they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, mothers and sisters, so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be free.... it don't matter if you are black or white..... any thoughts on this? Sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Thank you Rhavda, Sue and " t " .....I knew I was not being too sensitive.... >What you are doing with the UAE is important for the morale and well-being of our children.> this is how I feel too, we are taking care of the babies!! its like people asking me why I have this tape on my ankle, like Im hurt. I am wearing camo self sticking tape, looks like a tattoo and represents the fact that they wear camo uniform everyday for a years. So can wear this tiny bit I in honor- must admit the color palate is not as flattering as I would like in a shirt.....so this way I have it on my ankle, although i have some cute booty camp undies!! HEEHEE so I tell them it is because my Jim would give anything to be able to wear some old jeans and a t shirt.... Sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Dear Sylla, Thanks for the clarification on Robbi. My husband wears my son's old camo outfits when he is not in his police uniform. I think that it is cute because my husband says " he can legally wear these camos because they have his name on them. " (laughing out loud) Usually it is the son who wears his dad's clothes and not the other way round as in our home. I wear my son's old camo t-shirts and Naval Academy shirts when I can. By wearing his clothes it makes him feel closer to us even when he is far away. I am still chuckling over the fact that he said that he would use the Tea Tree and distribute packages for us. He is finally becoming really aware of the little " treasures " that we in the at world can send these kids. I hope that one day our at supplies are purchased by our government to go into each of our kids backpacks, etc. Take care. Rhavda Original Message: ----------------- Sylla S. Hanger sylla Wed, 4 Nov 2009 18:51:17 -0500 ATFE Re: totally off topic, what the ... Thank you Rhavda, Sue and " t " .....I knew I was not being too sensitive.... >What you are doing with the UAE is important for the morale and well-being of our children.> this is how I feel too, we are taking care of the babies!! its like people asking me why I have this tape on my ankle, like Im hurt. I am wearing camo self sticking tape, looks like a tattoo and represents the fact that they wear camo uniform everyday for a years. So can wear this tiny bit I in honor- must admit the color palate is not as flattering as I would like in a shirt.....so this way I have it on my ankle, although i have some cute booty camp undies!! HEEHEE so I tell them it is because my Jim would give anything to be able to wear some old jeans and a t shirt.... Sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Well, I more or less consider myself a CO, don't think war serves any of us and I'm looking forward to the day we evolve beyond it . . . However, when the deed is done and we are there, I support all our children put in harm's way. They are doing their duty and I'm proud to send products to UAE to help them make the best of it. That said, I will still rail at the politicians to examine the reasons for war and encourage them to choose not to go to war, especially before adequate diplomacy can possibly find other solutions. Not about to take it out on the troops, though. That WAS a mistake in the 60's. Be Well, Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston Churchill ________________________________ ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of Sylla S. Hanger Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:37 AM ATFE totally off topic, what the ... Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we are mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) ......they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, brothers and fathers, mothers and sisters, so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be free.... it don't matter if you are black or white..... any thoughts on this? Sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 thanks for having the courage to say this, marcia. my dad was a korean war vet, one of the first black men in an " integrated " air force. i grew up around the military, including my childhood health care, my education, and my very first jobs as a teenager, working as a busgirl in the non-commissioned officer's club. but i question our motives now. they seem more corporate than humanitarian. cecile ATFE , " Marcia Elston " <Marcia wrote: > > Well, I more or less consider myself a CO, don't think war serves any of us > and I'm looking forward to the day we evolve beyond it . . . However, when > the deed is done and we are there, I support all our children put in harm's > way. They are doing their duty and I'm proud to send products to UAE to > help them make the best of it. > > That said, I will still rail at the politicians to examine the reasons for > war and encourage them to choose not to go to war, especially before > adequate diplomacy can possibly find other solutions. Not about to take it > out on the troops, though. That WAS a mistake in the 60's. > > Be Well, > Marcia Elston, Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence > http://www.wingedseed.com > http://www.wingedseed.blogspot.com > http://www.aromaconnection.org > " We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give. " - Winston > Churchill > > > > ________________________________ > > ATFE [ATFE ] On Behalf Of Sylla > S. Hanger > Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:37 AM > ATFE > totally off topic, what the ... > > > > > Probably should keep to myself, being freshly awakened and opened up by the > Robbi Zeck workshop- AMAZING and more on that later, but I just need to > dialog about this with a large group to help me sort out my feelings on it > > major supporter in the past NOT supporting UAE now because they are a > conscientious objector........????? isn't that about not fighting..... an > opposition to the war, OK I remember Viet Nam days.....and I get that we are > mostly ALL opposed to war, any war, but, but, but (feel like Marge!) > .....they are serving and doing THEIR duty, our sons and daughters, brothers > and fathers, mothers and sisters, > > so we need to support them - who are supporting us to live here and be > free.... > > it don't matter if you are black or white..... > > any thoughts on this? > > Sylla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Rhavda said " By wearing his clothes it makes him feel closer to us even when he is far away. " yes! I told Jim I wanted to be just like him, so he sent me a 'boonie' hat, as that is his daily headgear in camp!! works great in FL- he had given me camo pants years ago, and a jacket w/ his name- its the 'old' woodland camo,not the digital they wear now.... >>I am still chuckling over the fact that he said that he would use the TeaTree and distribute packages for us. He is finally becoming really aware of the little " treasures " that we in the at world can send these kids. I hope that one day our at supplies are purchased by our government to go into each of our kids backpacks, etc.???>> there is a thought.......and this was the first thing Sara Holmes said when I said we going military, she reminded that teatree/lavender was used by Jean Valnet, so we are coming full circle!! and Marcia reminded me we are setting up UAE for the future now, I wont be around forever, so someone will take over and keep it going, would be wonderful to visualize that happening, aromatherapy becoming part of their kits......we got a lot of work to do team!! Syl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Dear Sylla, I'm so glad that you do the same thing that we do. It makes me feel better to know that I am not alone. Our son will be home late tomorrow night for a few days. He has to report to Camp Pendleton in about 10 days so our visit will be short but sweet. He is bringing home most of his things for us to store while he will be in Afghanistan. My husband will probably find some new clothes for him to wear after our son is gone. Sylla, I do have an idea for how you can sell to the Military. I will find the information and send it to you in a few days. Take care and talk to you soon. Rhavda Original Message: ----------------- Sylla S. Hanger sylla Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:48:45 -0500 ATFE Re: totally off topic, what the ... Rhavda said " By wearing his clothes it makes him feel closer to us even when he is far away. " yes! I told Jim I wanted to be just like him, so he sent me a 'boonie' hat, as that is his daily headgear in camp!! works great in FL- he had given me camo pants years ago, and a jacket w/ his name- its the 'old' woodland camo,not the digital they wear now.... >>I am still chuckling over the fact that he said that he would use the TeaTree and distribute packages for us. He is finally becoming really aware of the little " treasures " that we in the at world can send these kids. I hope that one day our at supplies are purchased by our government to go into each of our kids backpacks, etc.???>> there is a thought.......and this was the first thing Sara Holmes said when I said we going military, she reminded that teatree/lavender was used by Jean Valnet, so we are coming full circle!! and Marcia reminded me we are setting up UAE for the future now, I wont be around forever, so someone will take over and keep it going, would be wonderful to visualize that happening, aromatherapy becoming part of their kits......we got a lot of work to do team!! Syl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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