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[Guest guest]

Thanks for this Lisa, there's some great information on Dr Pierson's web site.

My own cat is a real pain food wise, she will only eat one brand of

food and only one flavor of that brand! Right now she's buzzing round

me complaining because we ran out of *her* food and dared to get her

some from the local shop..... sigh, she cant half hit with her head -

lol. She'll be like this now till I get to the shop tomorrow and bring

home the food she wants....

Still off topic but talking *wants* - I want Dr Pierson's horses! What

a hansom bunch! (Dr. Pierson's Tall, Dark, and Handsome Men)

Keep well

Liz

 

 

2009/6/7 Lisa <lcamasi:

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>

>

>> Marketing hogwash. Cats will thrive in the wild on anything they can get

>> to eat. Likewise, ever heard of wild dogs who will also kill and eat just

>> about anything and are healthy till old age gets them? I find it incredible

>> that people constantly suck in and believe this marketing hype. My old cat

>> used to beg for cooked lungs, made the place stink, but he would not touch

>> cat foods if he could help it. He lived to a ripe old age and was still a

>> fighter in his old age. Have people really lost their ability to think?

>>

>> Martin Watt

>>

>

> OMG... just get me started will you? One of the biggest causes of illness in

> cats especially, because they are obligate carnivores, is the entire

> commercially driven push to feed dry kibble.

>

> It is implicated in the rising epidemic of feline diabetes (cats need low

> carb diets - don't have the digestive system to break down and convert carbs

> to usable energy) tooth decay, and urinary tract infections.

>

> The issue with UTIs used to be struvite crystals and uroliths, but

> manufacturers started adding DL Methionine to kibble as an acidifier - which

> helped to significantly reduce the incidence of struvite crystals and UTI's,

> but now there is an increased incidence of calcium oxalate uroliths. Both of

> these conditions can usually be prevented by feeding a raw diet, or at least

> canned food. The UTIs and struvite uroliths can be treated with medication

> and diet and resolved, but the calcium oxalate uroliths have to be removed

> surgically, and then prevented by a change in diet (OFF kibble!) I have

> friends with a 4 year old cat in a lot of pain facing surgery, and my

> friends are looking at a $2000 vet bill for this.

>

> If you want more detailed information on dietary issues in cats, check out

> the link below. It is maintained by a vet who is adamantly in the " NO

> KIBBLE " camp, and she cites plenty of primary source research.

>

> My cats, and the feral colonies I manage, all get some kibble, but they also

> get either raw or (occasionally) canned food, every day. Has made a huge

> difference in their health, and in my vet bills, and not that much more

> expensive because I make most of the raw diet myself.

>

> http://www.catinfo.org/index.htm

>

> Lisa

>

>

[Guest guest]

I contacted my Japanese research vet about this Young Living pets scam. She

tells me they have the same hogwash being promoted over there. Below is her

reply which you may find of interest.

Martin Watt

============================================

Thanks for the information. As I know they formulated products for

dogs and cats, I made several calls to Tokyo office of the Young

Living, and talked with the boss. They always say they have been

asking advice for vets and the vets say EOs create no problems in

animals. They do ask me to provide scientific evidence that EOs are

toxic to cats.

 

There are several Japanese vets who have been using EOs clinically to

cats saying there is no scientific evidence that EOs are harmful to

cats. Truly regretful I cannot conduct animal experiments using

cats. I once participated a workshop held by them, and I leaned that

all the cats that received EOs during surgery died in two days after

the surgery. They reported three surgery cases in feline species,

and said each operation was successful. The operation was successful,

but the animals did not survive. There was no explanation why all

three cats died. They used 30% Tea Tree Oil to wash the malignant

cells, and explained that the EO caused apoptosis of cancer cells

that they couldn't remove. It was jaw-dropping shock to me, because

among the vets there was a professor of a famous veterinary university.

 

As you know, I am writing serial articles in a vet magazine which is

very scientific. I am writing messages to these vets, and Young

Living especially. Recent research revealed that the cats lack not

only the 2nd phase metabolizing enzymes, but they lack 1st phase

liver enzymes as well, and their glucronidation (detoxifying) ability

is 1/6 to 1/10 weaker than other animal species. I am going to

provide scientific evidence to them in this scientific magazine. I

am sure they will be sued by cat owners in the near future.

 

ATFE2 , Liz <liztams wrote:

>

> Thanks for this Lisa, there's some great information on Dr Pierson's web site.

> My own cat is a real pain food wise, she will only eat one brand of

> food and only one flavor of that brand! Right now she's buzzing round

> me complaining because we ran out of *her* food and dared to get her

> some from the local shop..... sigh, she cant half hit with her head -

> lol. She'll be like this now till I get to the shop tomorrow and bring

> home the food she wants....

> Still off topic but talking *wants* - I want Dr Pierson's horses! What

> a hansom bunch! (Dr. Pierson's Tall, Dark, and Handsome Men)

> Keep well

> Liz

>

>

> 2009/6/7 Lisa <lcamasi:

[Guest guest]

Just to clarify.

Dr Pierson's web site http://www.catinfo.org/index.htm (the link in

Lisa's mail) has no mention at all of either essential oils or YL.

It is concerned with cat's diets, particularly addressing obesity and

its link to feeding dried cat food.

I specifically changed the subject to *O/T now Cats* on this mail to

separate it from the previous thread on YL.

Liz

 

 

2009/6/8 Martin Watt <aromamedical:

>

>

> I contacted my Japanese research vet about this Young Living pets scam. She

> tells me they have the same hogwash being promoted over there. Below is her

> reply which you may find of interest.

> Martin Watt

> ============================================

> Thanks for the information. As I know they formulated products for

> dogs and cats, I made several calls to Tokyo office of the Young

> Living, and talked with the boss. They always say they have been

> asking advice for vets and the vets say EOs create no problems in

> animals. They do ask me to provide scientific evidence that EOs are

> toxic to cats.

>

> There are several Japanese vets who have been using EOs clinically to

> cats saying there is no scientific evidence that EOs are harmful to

> cats. Truly regretful I cannot conduct animal experiments using

> cats. I once participated a workshop held by them, and I leaned that

> all the cats that received EOs during surgery died in two days after

> the surgery. They reported three surgery cases in feline species,

> and said each operation was successful. The operation was successful,

> but the animals did not survive. There was no explanation why all

> three cats died. They used 30% Tea Tree Oil to wash the malignant

> cells, and explained that the EO caused apoptosis of cancer cells

> that they couldn't remove. It was jaw-dropping shock to me, because

> among the vets there was a professor of a famous veterinary university.

>

> As you know, I am writing serial articles in a vet magazine which is

> very scientific. I am writing messages to these vets, and Young

> Living especially. Recent research revealed that the cats lack not

> only the 2nd phase metabolizing enzymes, but they lack 1st phase

> liver enzymes as well, and their glucronidation (detoxifying) ability

> is 1/6 to 1/10 weaker than other animal species. I am going to

> provide scientific evidence to them in this scientific magazine. I

> am sure they will be sued by cat owners in the near future.

>

> ATFE2 , Liz <liztams wrote:

>>

>> Thanks for this Lisa, there's some great information on Dr Pierson's web

>> site.

>> My own cat is a real pain food wise, she will only eat one brand of

>> food and only one flavor of that brand! Right now she's buzzing round

>> me complaining because we ran out of *her* food and dared to get her

>> some from the local shop..... sigh, she cant half hit with her head -

>> lol. She'll be like this now till I get to the shop tomorrow and bring

>> home the food she wants....

>> Still off topic but talking *wants* - I want Dr Pierson's horses! What

>> a hansom bunch! (Dr. Pierson's Tall, Dark, and Handsome Men)

>> Keep well

>> Liz

>>

>>

>> 2009/6/7 Lisa <lcamasi:

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