Clarification on My Post Regarding The Ol' Troll

[Guest guest]

Hey y'all,

 

I'm gonna clarify one point now afore someone rightfully calls me on

it. ;-) It was not my intent to say that Martin does not know the

in's and out's of AT .. but its not his original field of expertise.

He is perhaps the most knowledgeable person around on the subject of

safe use of EO .. believe it or not .. more knowledgable than I

am. ;-) Folks who don't own his Safety Manual " Plant Aromatics "

are playing Russian Roulette .. shooting in the dark .. when they

make blends for dermal application.

 

http://www.aromamedical.com/paper.html

 

And .. even though I NEVER wish to be known as an AT Practitioner, I

have taken two AT Courses and I accidently know a thing or three

about AT .. so I feel qualified to say that his AT Course is the best

around .. and the least costly .. and it will teach you the correct

way the first time .. no need to unlearn bad info later.

 

http://www.aromamedical.com/coursedetails.html

 

If you wanna know who this ol' Troll really is .. go here.

 

http://www.aromamedical.com/biography.html

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

 

> Martin, being a Herbalist (that is his expertise .. not

Aromatherapy)

[Guest guest]

Hi Butch,

Thanks for the clarification! Though I dont think anyone who knows you

would even think you were *dissing* Martin ! :-)

By the way, we dont have trolls on ATFE ;-)

We just have very knowledgeable folk who are really generous in

sharing information freely (including you in that, thank you) - and we

really appreciate them.

OK sometimes they may have things to say that others dont want to hear

- but hey! - when the only opinion people want to listen to is their

own - they are living a sad life ;-)

LLx

 

 

2008/5/10 Butch Owen <butchowen:

> Hey y'all,

>

> I'm gonna clarify one point now afore someone rightfully calls me on

> it. ;-) It was not my intent to say that Martin does not know the

> in's and out's of AT .. but its not his original field of expertise.

> He is perhaps the most knowledgeable person around on the subject of

> safe use of EO .. believe it or not .. more knowledgable than I

> am. ;-) Folks who don't own his Safety Manual " Plant Aromatics "

> are playing Russian Roulette .. shooting in the dark .. when they

> make blends for dermal application.

>

> http://www.aromamedical.com/paper.html

>

> And .. even though I NEVER wish to be known as an AT Practitioner, I

> have taken two AT Courses and I accidently know a thing or three

> about AT .. so I feel qualified to say that his AT Course is the best

> around .. and the least costly .. and it will teach you the correct

> way the first time .. no need to unlearn bad info later.

>

> http://www.aromamedical.com/coursedetails.html

>

> If you wanna know who this ol' Troll really is .. go here.

>

> http://www.aromamedical.com/biography.html

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-)

>

> Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

>

>> Martin, being a Herbalist (that is his expertise .. not

> Aromatherapy)

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow this thread is getting out of hand but it has really fired up the

group which is just great. I hope this will be my last post of the

subject as I must respond to a few points made by Butch and others.

 

>If we don't demand some discipline in the field of Aromatherapy we >must

>accept that synthetic fragrances sold by Glade and other companies

This all depends on what people think is meant by aroma-therapy. Many

years ago a friend of mine tried to persuade the trade associations in

the UK to register the term so that it could not be used by the likes

of Glade. The trade were just not interested and as a result what we

feared has happened.

 

My personal take on this is that if you are treating someone

usingessential oils, etc. for pscychological or physical treatments,

that this is what most consider to be aroma-therapy.

 

To use synthetic fragrances in candles, diffusers, perfumes, etc. for

relaxation, etc. can also be termed aroma-therapy as the term is not a

protected one, so like it or not we are stuck with it. I should add

here that many of the synthetic fragrances are far safer than some

essential oils. However that does not mean they should be used for

any physical therapeutic purposes.

 

Likewise if Butch feels good after smelling his Bourbon then that is

aroma-therapy.

 

Pheromones play a huge part in human interactions as well. Not sure

if this could be called aroma-therapy, but I think so as those

pheromones have definite physical effects as well as psychological.

Some insect pheromones are the same molecules as occur in some

essential oils.

 

Now back to the original subject which was are garden flowers

aroma-therapy? Heck yes they are, and with what I know of their

chemistry far more so than any essential oils. In flowers I also

include fragrant resins, leaves and barks. I defy anyone to tell me

that a handful of pine needles in a hot bath when suffering from a

cold is not aroma-therapy, and it contains hundreds more plant

chemicals than are in the essential oil.

 

Butch said:

>Martin, being a Herbalist (that is his expertise .. not Aromatherapy)

It was for that very reason when I got into aromatherapy nearly 25

years ago that I realised what a pile of bovine excrement was being

taught and written and it still is. It is also the reason that a few

aromatherapy teachers and writers came to me to correct their

materials. They did not have the volume of research data I have got,

or more importantly the knowledge of how to sort the wheat from the chaff.

 

Martin

 

 

ATFE2 , " Butch Owen " <butchowen wrote:

>

> Hey y'all,

>

> I'm gonna clarify one point now afore someone rightfully calls me on

> it. ;-) It was not my intent to say that Martin does not know the

> in's and out's of AT .. but its not his original field of expertise.

> He is perhaps the most knowledgeable person around on the subject of

> safe use of EO .. believe it or not .. more knowledgable than I

> am. ;-) Folks who don't own his Safety Manual " Plant Aromatics "

> are playing Russian Roulette .. shooting in the dark .. when they

> make blends for dermal application.

>

> http://www.aromamedical.com/paper.html

>

> And .. even though I NEVER wish to be known as an AT Practitioner, I

> have taken two AT Courses and I accidently know a thing or three

> about AT .. so I feel qualified to say that his AT Course is the best

> around .. and the least costly .. and it will teach you the correct

> way the first time .. no need to unlearn bad info later.

>

> http://www.aromamedical.com/coursedetails.html

>

> If you wanna know who this ol' Troll really is .. go here.

>

> http://www.aromamedical.com/biography.html

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-)

>

> Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com

>

> > Martin, being a Herbalist (that is his expertise .. not

> Aromatherapy)

>