need massage oil/moisturizer recipe for severe burn scars with skin grafts

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Yes, this is a serious medical condition, so I didn't want to just use

the usual scar healing blend, wanted to first ask my buddies at ATFE,

so this is why I hunted you down and joined ATFE2.

 

My aunt, age 62, blond and blue-eyed with delicate, oily, fair skin,

had a terrible kitchen accident and suffered 2nd and 3rd degree burns

as she tried to tear off her burning blouse. Burns were from her

right hand up her right arm, underarm, side, and back. She has since

had skin grafts under her arm and on her back, so she also has a

" donor skin " incision wound on her right thigh. This happened about a

month ago, and she has started physical therapy, with stretching

exercises to keep the skin from tightening. She is still on pain meds

for another couple weeks, and is almost ready for massage. She has

some nasty, knotty scars formed already, which seem like they'll get

worse if not tended to. You can see why I wanted to check with the

group before making her a blend!

 

Also, I know Helichrysum usually is recommended in a base of Rose Hip

Seed oil, but Rose Hip Seed oil is not good for acne or blemished

skin. This is an issue, since the horrible lotion that the hospital

gave my aunt to moisturize both her burn area and the donor skin wound

has caused blackheads and yellowish bumpy blackhead-like things in

exactly the areas where she has used this heavy moisturizer, and where

she now needs a scar-healing massage blend.

 

So if I could make a massage oil or lotion for her that would also

double as a moisturizer that wouldn't have such comedogenic

(blackhead-generating) effects, that would be the best of all possible

worlds! I obviously would also consider making her two separate

blends, a scar healing one and a less medicinal blend for general

moisturizing of the wound areas.

 

Help!!!

 

Thank you in advance to all who take the time to offer some precious

advice.

 

So glad you're all still here!!!

 

Andrea

[Guest guest]

Hi Andrea and welcome

This is a serious condition, how horrible for your aunt, I'm sure all

our thoughts are with her. You dont say how long ago this happened, so

its really quite hard help, oil wise.

My first thoughts are to keep EO's away from the area until healing is

fully established. The new skin will be in a very delicate condition

and more prone to EO irritation/sensitization.

The nasty looking scar tissue will probably be granulating tissue,

which forms as part of wound healing where skin damage is extensive

and - till at least 3/4 months - should not be subject to any massage

treatments without prior agreement from the consultant who attended

your aunt. It will begin to shrink in time by itself.

I dont like the sound of the blackheads and yellowish bumpy

blackheads, and I would really get her back to the consultant who

operated to have them checked out. If they become infected things

could go horribly wrong with the graft.

Once things have settled down I would stick with Helichrysum & Rose

Hip and dont worry about the acne *warnings* - I've used it for

clients with acne scars successfully; it has a natural content of

Vitamin A so is good for most skin types. You just have to make sure

that not too much is applied, and that the area is properly cleansed

before re-applying. I think problems occur when the oil is allowed to

build up on the skin, blocking the natural sebum production - as would

any oil.

Vaporising anti-infectious oils will help prevent air born germs.

I hope everything goes well for your aunt, do keep us posted.

LLx

 

 

 

On 10/04/2008, Andrea <sea.namaste wrote:

> Yes, this is a serious medical condition, so I didn't want to just use

> the usual scar healing blend, wanted to first ask my buddies at ATFE,

> so this is why I hunted you down and joined ATFE2.

>

> My aunt, age 62, blond and blue-eyed with delicate, oily, fair skin,

> had a terrible kitchen accident and suffered 2nd and 3rd degree burns

> as she tried to tear off her burning blouse. Burns were from her

> right hand up her right arm, underarm, side, and back. She has since

> had skin grafts under her arm and on her back, so she also has a

> " donor skin " incision wound on her right thigh. This happened about a

> month ago, and she has started physical therapy, with stretching

> exercises to keep the skin from tightening. She is still on pain meds

> for another couple weeks, and is almost ready for massage. She has

> some nasty, knotty scars formed already, which seem like they'll get

> worse if not tended to. You can see why I wanted to check with the

> group before making her a blend!

>

> Also, I know Helichrysum usually is recommended in a base of Rose Hip

> Seed oil, but Rose Hip Seed oil is not good for acne or blemished

> skin. This is an issue, since the horrible lotion that the hospital

> gave my aunt to moisturize both her burn area and the donor skin wound

> has caused blackheads and yellowish bumpy blackhead-like things in

> exactly the areas where she has used this heavy moisturizer, and where

> she now needs a scar-healing massage blend.

>

> So if I could make a massage oil or lotion for her that would also

> double as a moisturizer that wouldn't have such comedogenic

> (blackhead-generating) effects, that would be the best of all possible

> worlds! I obviously would also consider making her two separate

> blends, a scar healing one and a less medicinal blend for general

> moisturizing of the wound areas.

>

> Help!!!

>

> Thank you in advance to all who take the time to offer some precious

> advice.

>

> So glad you're all still here!!!

>

> Andrea

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Andre,

 

Welcome back! Wow, that's quite a situation; I hope she is doing the

best under the circumstances.

 

I find the light oil of fractionated coconut good for skin prone to

breaking out. You might try blending it with the rose hip too. (or

Virgin Coconut once you melt it - as you want to be gentle on the skin.)

 

Remember rose hip seed oil is wonderful when it's fresh. Just like an

orange, you wouldn't want it once it goes bad. And it does quite

quickly. (David dreams of his nitrogen top off system for his rose hip

seed oils.)

 

And you could use some Aloe Vera gel for some or all of the water

portion of the lotion.

 

Other oils I would consider are fresh almond oil and jojoba. I would

stay away from pro inflamitory oils like Soy, Corn and the like.

 

OH, and addition to the lavender and heli, sometimes a little Jasmine

can really help with burn pain. I know it's not common, but it can

really give some relief to those throbbing nerves. It makes you feel

(and smell) so much better.

 

Warm Regards,

 

David Roman Daniels

[Guest guest]

Hi Andrea,

 

Sorry to hear about your Aunt's condition- my regards to her and you

for trying to help her out.

 

I'd suggest Seabuckthorn and a bit of Rose Otto to promote Scar

healing, As for the comedogenic aspect, maybe Macadamia, because it is

similar to sebum could help.

 

And if you at all use Sandalwood, a drop of it would help dehydrated

tissue like nothing else.

 

Esther