Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Hi Jeanine, I'm a veggie, and a while back, I heard that other people were wiping tofu out of their diets, and even refused a dessert made with soy milk, because of articles like this one. The answer is this: If you are eating a bunch of processed soy foods, it's not too good for you. Processed foods seem to muck us up nutritionally. Whole soy foods, like tofu, edemame, soy milk, fermented miso paste, and so on are ok. And in their natural state, we are likely to eat less of them. Here's a different take on Soy: http://www.vegetarianbaby.com/articles/whatsgoingon.shtml Cheers, Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Now, this has very little to do with soy and I do mean very little but: I've always found it odd that a lot of folk want to go veggie and yet they want to keep their " Meat " , so they make up and eat things like soy burgers, tofurkey, soy sausages, soy chops etc. " Himself " kept some desicated dried up something or other that was a " Meat replacement " for stews and things. It was quite nasty, however this was about 15 years ago so I'm sure they've improved in taste and texture. But... If the idea is to give up meat, why eat burgers and sausages and furkeys etc.? Now, don't get me wrong, I completely understand a lot of the reasons behind the veggie mindset and agree with most of them, even though I'm a comfirmed omnivore. I mean " some of my best friends are veggies " (>evil grin<) and my brother and his family are veggies... but they still do the " fake meat " thing. Isn't that some sort of a cheat or hypocrisy? Not trying to start a fight... no, really! Just find it odd. Going to bed now, it's almost 3am. K On 2/22/08, Christina M <BodyAmbrosia wrote: > > . > > > -- Kathleen Petrides Bead Hussy http://www.BeadHussy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 LOL I think its to do with 3 things, texture, expectation and conditioning. Those who didn't grow up veggie expect a *layout* to their food, meat and two veg kinda thing. The plate just doesn't look right unless that ratio is there. With texture (unless your a really good veggie cook) there is no *bite* with veggie food - nothing to chew - so the meal can seem bland when your used to a good'ol chomp. So food companies jumped on the band waggon and provided that *chew feeling* with *fake meat*. Its no so much people want fake meat, or even the taste or smell of meat, but it provides a kinda normality to a meal once they cut meat out. And now there are veggie burgers and sausage's that taste so good they're worth trying - even by meat eaters. Not as a replacement, just as a different food. LLx On 22/02/2008, Kathleen Petrides <Beadhussy wrote: > Now, this has very little to do with soy and I do mean very little but: > > I've always found it odd that a lot of folk want to go veggie and yet they > want to keep their " Meat " , so they make up and eat things like soy burgers, > tofurkey, soy sausages, soy chops etc. " Himself " kept some desicated dried > up something or other that was a " Meat replacement " for stews and things. It > was quite nasty, however this was about 15 years ago so I'm sure they've > improved in taste and texture. > > But... If the idea is to give up meat, why eat burgers and sausages and > furkeys etc.? > > Now, don't get me wrong, I completely understand a lot of the reasons behind > the veggie mindset and agree with most of them, even though I'm a comfirmed > omnivore. I mean " some of my best friends are veggies " (>evil grin<) and my > brother and his family are veggies... but they still do the " fake meat " > thing. Isn't that some sort of a cheat or hypocrisy? > > Not trying to start a fight... no, really! Just find it odd. > > Going to bed now, it's almost 3am. > > K > > > On 2/22/08, Christina M <BodyAmbrosia wrote: > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > -- > Kathleen Petrides > Bead Hussy > http://www.BeadHussy.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Kathleen, the short answer is that it depends on why the person is a veggie in the first place. I turned veggie first due to aesthetic reasons, so meat analogues has been out for me. A good bean or grain burger is okay, but other soy meats are definitely out. If you went veggie for other reasons, though, you might miss meat. My honey likes soy bacon well enough that we can both be happy at breakfast. If you really like turkey, a Tofurkey may fill a void. Cheers, Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 This whole discussion brings to mind one of my favorite authors, Michael Pollan . . . I think I've talked about the first book of his I read, " The Botany of Desire " some time back. Check out his " The Omnivore's Dilemma " . .. . and his latest, " In Defense of Food " . You can find out more about him on his website. http://www.michaelpollan.com/index.htm Be well, Marcia Elston Samara Botane/Nature Intelligence, est. 1988 http://www.wingedseed.com Online 3/95 http://www.aromaconnection.org Group Blog 2/07 " Historically, the most terrible things - war, genocide and slavery - have resulted from obedience, not disobedience. " Howard Zinn ________________________________ ATFE2 [ATFE2 ] On Behalf Of Kathleen Petrides Friday, February 22, 2008 2:54 AM ATFE2 Re: [ATFE2] OT:RE:Eating Soy products Now, this has very little to do with soy and I do mean very little but: I've always found it odd that a lot of folk want to go veggie and yet they want to keep their " Meat " , so they make up and eat things like soy burgers, tofurkey, soy sausages, soy chops etc. " Himself " kept some desicated dried up something or other that was a " Meat replacement " for stews and things. It was quite nasty, however this was about 15 years ago so I'm sure they've improved in taste and texture. But... If the idea is to give up meat, why eat burgers and sausages and furkeys etc.? Now, don't get me wrong, I completely understand a lot of the reasons behind the veggie mindset and agree with most of them, even though I'm a comfirmed omnivore. I mean " some of my best friends are veggies " (>evil grin<) and my brother and his family are veggies... but they still do the " fake meat " thing. Isn't that some sort of a cheat or hypocrisy? Not trying to start a fight... no, really! Just find it odd. Going to bed now, it's almost 3am. K On 2/22/08, Christina M <BodyAmbrosia <BodyAmbrosia%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > . > > > -- Kathleen Petrides Bead Hussy http://www.BeadHussy.com <http://www.BeadHussy.com> A Group to share and learn. Health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I second the nod to " In Defense of Food " . It's a really enlightening look at how we got nutrition wrong, and what we can do to change all that. Made it easy for me to justify doubling the size of my edible garden this year. Cheers, Christina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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