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Thankyou for all the support everyone! I really appreciate it and am doing a lot

better! I just want to update you on the results and where I'm at now! I did a

couple of months of Physical Therapy with many different types of kegals and

that helped strengthen my rectal area to the point where I don't currently have

rectal incontinence-TG and can even hold in diarhea. The skin is intact, it's

just the muscle is damaged on one end. I saw a third urogynecologist and he said

he could feel that the muscle is not joined on one side though and it will need

to be repaired before menopause or I will have problems then as I get older. He

thought sooner than better would be good since the muscles heal more easily. Dr.

Lin is a good conservative doctor- I had to go all the way to Thousand Oaks,

north of LA but it's worth it. He just laughed that my other urogyn had

suggested labia plasty! We both feel postpartum labias are beautiful and don't

need to be messed with. He also said I could wait to do the surgery after I wean

Anjali so I can keep up with all these natural methods in the meantime. I'm also

going to see a colorectal surgeon and then will get a recto-anal ultrasound...

so it's a lot of research but then we will know for sure what's going on. I

don't see how the perineum muscle or sphincter muscle will mend without surgery

but at least things are more comfortable until I can do it and I will keep up

with the natural things that will hopefully strengthen the area. I never knew

there were so many types of kegals but they help and just regular exercise is

strengthening me... I wish the weight would come off....I'm still 35 pounds over

pre-preg! I'm not sure what to do about that but I figure it'll drop at the

right time and I'm just focusing on getting stronger...

I tried the sesame basti and I felt great but the baby, Anjali, seemed fussed so

I'm wondering if it brought up too many toxins in my milk. I will hold off on

those a little...well, maybe do one a month instead of frequently as I'd

planned. I will see Mishra this month too and try out some of his oils and

products. I love the Ashwaganda ghee though and am putting that on lots of food

and using that and the Shatvari ghee vaginally sometimes.

Anjali has also responded to the oils like magic! She can go from crying over

indigestion to laughing in a second with lavender oil or malaluca on her feet or

tummy and the Thieves has really helped our digestion too so I'm not so gassy

anymore. And the lavender in wide circles around her eye helped clear the

conjunctivitis but we did need antibiotics too because it got really bad. It's

all better now though so I think all the natural things helped so it didn't

recur. She still has some cradle cap though if you have any tips on that...

This is such a wonderful community! I'm so grateful! I will keep studying up on

the things you recc'd and keep you posted in case anyone else should need

support around this!

 

Blessings,

Nitya

 

 

ayurveda , " ayurdoula " <AyurDoulas wrote:

>

> Nitya - Eric's gifts are special though the experience and training in medical

ayurveda sounds more of service now, as it is not just about herbs, but

administration procedures.

>

> The postpartum basti is usually 7 days after the first 10 (add 10days to 2

weeks more after a C birth). And very small, as you know, the 1/3 cup sesame

oil is the standard. That amount is very gentle, soothing, nourishing, and a

good way to administer herbal and essential oil influences as needed. The

default I was taught and use is bala decoction in sesame.

>

> We ahve spoken of this on the forum before, and one of our vaidya members

offered that sometimes even that much oil can be contraindicated when the agni

is really compromised still, as we do absorb much of it sometimes. Of course I

let my clients decide if they want it, and as legally we cannot administer w/o

medical licensure, they give themselves before bedtime.

>

> It sounds like with your complications especially, and in any case daily

abhyanga and soak in the tub is going to really support you also. Am assuming

when you say you did the mOther Baby massge, that you received that many

treatments for yourself from a trained Ayurvedic doula?

>

> As you can tell, the dietary piece does make a big difference for much more

than 2 weeks - I hope you are able to find supportive Undoubtedly you need much

more than rice and dhal, and maybe we should talk on phone about this to clarify

and tweak it! Can do Monday afternoon, drop me a quick call re your timing.

>

> >I haven't been as in control of my diet as I was last time. I should just

simplify probably and eat a lot of rice and dahl. The baby gets gas from many

foods when I vascilate much from my diet but I've had a hard time being

disciplined.

>

> Washing baby's eyes with fresh breast milk often thru the day (do both) is a

traditional way even adults address conjunctivitis, according to Dr. Shrestha.

IN the meantime, you have lavender and melaleuca ericafolia essential oils?

I've put one on baby's feet the other on chest/upper back, then drop lavender on

cotton ball near baby when sleeping also, and seen infant conjunctivitis clear

overnight.

>

> > I checked out my innards with another surgeon and all he could see ...

Scary! I'm still too frightened to venture into sex...it's probably ok though.

>

> I'd be very cautious, and feel same way! I definitely would not engage in

intercourse until the perineumm is stronger, if I were you.

>

> > He was such a nice guy though and made me feel a lot better about the

situation. I do want to do surgary as a last resort but it seems that's the only

way to get the wall back.

>

> It is true, as Dr.Thite has so kindly shared of his experience, the MDs are

not experienced with natural methods which support the tissues' ability to heal.

>

> >I'm going to take some candida vaginal suppositories so hopefully that'll

keep everything clean and also keep oiling the area. I can't remember the mix

that Chandi made me from young living oils last time to heal but I still have it

so I will use that and Claraderm.

>

> Yes, I would be doing an herbal/essential oil laced tailam (herbalized oil)

rather than the medical suppositories which are so aggressive and not supportive

to the tissue intelligence. Dr. Claudia Welsch, ayurvedic and chinese physician

who teaches at the Ayurvedic Institute and a wonderful class on Women's health,

has had great success clearing vaginal candida with pessaries (as you and I have

discussed?) little soft cloth soaked in oil (she may use coconut or sesame) and

melaleuca artinifolia (the more common one; but take care with quality). It or

other oils of choice by details of the condition, doshic/gunas will address more

than candida, has a broad spectrum antimicrobial property. the carrier oil

protects the inivitable vata from birth and all these traumas. I'd favor myrrh

as you know, which the Essential OIls Desk Reference suggests as an alt for

" vaginal infection " to the melaleuca (or Melrose blend, which includes rosemary

et al). They put myrhh with oregano and thyme, as well as suggesting some

douche recipes, diluted with a Tbs thick carrier oil.

>

> > Is Vaginitis candida basically?

>

> Anytime you see " -itis " means irritation which has some inflammatory thing

happening, some pitta involvement also. can be from multiple causes.

>

> >The doctor said I have this and wants me to use a soy based estrogen cream.

>

> I don't know why he gives this. If estrogen is low, we have options there

depending on agni, what else you are doing, and your preferred mode of taking,

but already you have so many practitioners, I don't want to suggest " adding " one

more thing - a full picture reassessment is wiser and simpler.

>

> Do you know of something more natural I could do? I drink tons of fennugreen

fennel tea and eat the herbs but apparently this is not enough....

>

> The FF tea has no influence directly on this condition, except when taken weak

(1/2 tsp mix to a quart water) in tea, it helps hydrate and alkalize being 2/3

fennel. That is good for you, but not medicine for this condition. Similarly

taking lots of herb pills, or for that matter, oral antibiotics - consider what

it takes to deliver their effects to that specific area. More direct

applications are indicated.

>

> It must be very confusing having so many sources of advice, Nitya. We are

honored you are sharing here, it is good education for many, and hope this

doesn't confuse further.

>

> Warmly,

> Ysha

>

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Dear Nitya -

 

Thank you for sharing your journey. Your persistence to finding solutions that

resonate with you is not easy to hold to with the way the medical system works

often, and the expense of it. What kind of specialist taught the many types of

kegels?

 

As far as weight gained from the perinatal time, this is common and Dr. Bhate

has discussed this (and many other related issues with weight) at

http://health.ayurveda/message/7833. Note though

his focus word is obesity, stubborn weight, or any excess weight issues relate

well to many of the points of course.

 

Some excerpts only from his significant article on Steps to reduce weight -

 

{Root treatment of obesity lies not in cutting out or reducing some

portion of dietary component, but in balancing the diet in harmony

with the region in which a person is living.

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/5872 ...

 

Obesity can develop due to stress too. Instead of taking medication,

natural ways to reduce such obesity are discussed at:

http://health.ayurveda/message/5996...

 

Poor oxygen in cells gives rise to muscle aches, poor digestion,

dizziness, depression, irrational behavior, weakness,

irritability,memory loss, circulation problems and stomach acidity

too,(Message#7272)......

 

Increasing cellular oxygen was also shown to take care of obesity

among many other benefits. The effect of breathing, through

balancing of glands also helps in balancing hormones and taking care

message/3833 ........

 

However, research indicates the distribution of fat below navel is

considered not only healthy but leading to longevity:

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/7095

 

.........

 

Yogurt, curd and other dairy products can promote obesity:

http://health.ayurveda/message/6770

 

Most Indian regard rice as causing obesity, since easy to digest and

has good number of calories. But this is myth as shown .....

 

Most women have to put up with obesity as a result of hormone disturbance either

due to HRT or to post pregnancy hormone disturbance. The contribution of

C-section to obesity has been already discussed in many posts on ayurveda.

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/6729

http://health.ayurveda/message/1723

http://health.ayurveda/message/1696

 

Some ayurvedic remedies aimed at post-partum obesity control are

discussed at:

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/5786

 

Obesity in such cases is due to stopping of production of higher

dhatus. Lack of higher dhatus leads to infertility. obesity and

infertility are connected, as observations have shown. Also well

known connection between insulin resistance and polycystic ovaries, a

major enemy of fertility proves that accumulation of blood sugar as a

result of insulin resistance and development of gestational diabetes

during pregnancy can reduce the fertility of baby in the womb.

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/6650

 

Ayurveda classifies obesity as a majority " Vata " disorder and

therefore requires long time actions to cure or control the disease

in tune with all vatic disorders. . its origins can all be traced

back to nutritional deficiencies.

 

http://health.ayurveda/message/6632

 

Global epidemic of obesity, requires that fat

stored in liver be reduced first, in order that obesity reduction

methods show success.}

 

You may find valuable help and clarity also, at Ayurvedic Dr. John Douillard's

www.lifespa.com u-tube shorts on weight loss and cleansing the liver first,

(once bowel we know is moving well). He makes simple home remedy of 2 weeks on

a grated beet salad with lemon and fresh ginger to help cleanse liver and gall

bladder of sluggishness. THe fresh beet also provides good roughage and helps

move the bowel, accomplishing all these at once rather well. The beet being a

root vegetable is grounding, and with beet sugars, warming energy, the sour

lemon and pungent ginger all help balance for vata in spite of being raw. How

many vatas can do this? I don't know, will let you know how it feels for

myself. I won't recommend it for early postpartum, and do not know what vaidyas

will say about pregnancy as things which strongly increase apana vayu (downward

subdosha of vata) are contraindicated of course.

 

We just talked about many more the factors around stubborn weight loss lost

night in a class here which brought up this great article while preparing for

it.

 

Warm regards -

Ysha

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This is very inspiring and helpful.

I was doing the kegals with a physical therapist. I feel like I'm getting a lot

stronger and there is not the same urgency to do the surgery. I will probably

wait until Anjali has weaned so I don't need to mess up her routine in a year or

so.

These weight gain articles are great! It took me awhile to get through them all.

I was especially inspired by all of Dr. Bhari's posts and leafing through Dr.

Douillard's site. I got the beets and I'm going to try those and not snacking

between meals. I just did the sesame enema this weekend and it was like a mini

cleanse. I'm still hungry between meals but the hot water helps. Would it be ok

to do the home prep while breast feeding that Dr. Douillard outlines here:

http://www.lifespa.com/article.aspx?art_id=59

I feel like I need to do something more to get the ama out

I have done this before but without the herbs pre- pregnancy and it was great.

My stomach also always feels cold. Do you think it'd be good to do his Trikatu

cleanse or any of the other things he suggests to light the fire? He also said

if you eat two trifala pills after every meal the weight will slip off.

The Thieves oil really helped with my candida but it came back last week when I

got back from Hawaii and I got a chest cold. I think the enema helped flush some

of the toxins out though. Thanks so much for your support everyone! Blessings,

Nitya

 

ayurveda , " ayurdoula " <AyurDoulas wrote:

>

> Dear Nitya -

>

> Thank you for sharing your journey. Your persistence to finding solutions

that resonate with you is not easy to hold to with the way the medical system

works often, and the expense of it. What kind of specialist taught the many

types of kegels?

>

> As far as weight gained from the perinatal time, this is common and Dr. Bhate

has discussed this (and many other related issues with weight) at

> http://health.ayurveda/message/7833. Note though

his focus word is obesity, stubborn weight, or any excess weight issues relate

well to many of the points of course.

>

> Some excerpts only from his significant article on Steps to reduce weight -

>

> {Root treatment of obesity lies not in cutting out or reducing some

> portion of dietary component, but in balancing the diet in harmony

> with the region in which a person is living.

>

> http://health.ayurveda/message/5872 ...

>

> Obesity can develop due to stress too. Instead of taking medication,

> natural ways to reduce such obesity are discussed at:

> http://health.ayurveda/message/5996...

>

> Poor oxygen in cells gives rise to muscle aches, poor digestion,

> dizziness, depression, irrational behavior, weakness,

> irritability,memory loss, circulation problems and stomach acidity

> too,(Message#7272)......

>

> Increasing cellular oxygen was also shown to take care of obesity

> among many other benefits. The effect of breathing, through

> balancing of glands also helps in balancing hormones and taking care

message/3833 ........

>

> However, research indicates the distribution of fat below navel is

> considered not only healthy but leading to longevity:

>

> http://health.ayurveda/message/7095

>

> ........

>

> Yogurt, curd and other dairy products can promote obesity:

> http://health.ayurveda/message/6770

>

> Most Indian regard rice as causing obesity, since easy to digest and

> has good number of calories. But this is myth as shown .....

>

> Most women have to put up with obesity as a result of hormone disturbance

either due to HRT or to post pregnancy hormone disturbance. The contribution of

C-section to obesity has been already discussed in many posts on ayurveda.

>

> http://health.ayurveda/message/6729

> http://health.ayurveda/message/1723

> http://health.ayurveda/message/1696

>

> Some ayurvedic remedies aimed at post-partum obesity control are

> discussed at:

>

> http://health.ayurveda/message/5786

>

> Obesity in such cases is due to stopping of production of higher

> dhatus. Lack of higher dhatus leads to infertility. obesity and

> infertility are connected, as observations have shown. Also well

> known connection between insulin resistance and polycystic ovaries, a

> major enemy of fertility proves that accumulation of blood sugar as a

> result of insulin resistance and development of gestational diabetes

> during pregnancy can reduce the fertility of baby in the womb.

>

> http://health.ayurveda/message/6650

>

> Ayurveda classifies obesity as a majority " Vata " disorder and

> therefore requires long time actions to cure or control the disease

> in tune with all vatic disorders. . its origins can all be traced

> back to nutritional deficiencies.

>

> http://health.ayurveda/message/6632

>

> Global epidemic of obesity, requires that fat

> stored in liver be reduced first, in order that obesity reduction

> methods show success.}

>

> You may find valuable help and clarity also, at Ayurvedic Dr. John Douillard's

www.lifespa.com u-tube shorts on weight loss and cleansing the liver first,

(once bowel we know is moving well). He makes simple home remedy of 2 weeks on

a grated beet salad with lemon and fresh ginger to help cleanse liver and gall

bladder of sluggishness. THe fresh beet also provides good roughage and helps

move the bowel, accomplishing all these at once rather well. The beet being a

root vegetable is grounding, and with beet sugars, warming energy, the sour

lemon and pungent ginger all help balance for vata in spite of being raw. How

many vatas can do this? I don't know, will let you know how it feels for

myself. I won't recommend it for early postpartum, and do not know what vaidyas

will say about pregnancy as things which strongly increase apana vayu (downward

subdosha of vata) are contraindicated of course.

>

> We just talked about many more the factors around stubborn weight loss lost

night in a class here which brought up this great article while preparing for

it.

>

> Warm regards -

> Ysha

>

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