* JULY 20, 21, 22 Gerontology Dr. Bharat Vaidya,

[Guest guest]

Ysha, this sounds fascinating. you and i are about the same age, if you give me

tips when I start slipping, I'll show you how to throw a frisbee with dead on

accuracy!

I guess I'm getting silly with tiredness tonight. Vicky

 

 

-

Ysha Oakes

ayurveda

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:17 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum * JULY 20, 21, 22 Gerontology Dr. Bharat

Vaidya,

 

 

Well what can I say - endings and beginnings have some common ground? This

class is being run for the first time anywhere in this country.

Ysha

 

* JULY 20, 21, 22 Gerontology Dr. Bharat Vaidya, B.A.M.S., M.D. (3 days)

The processes of aging, as understood by Ayurveda and Western Medicine, the

general uses of rasayana to maintain health, and treatments for specific

diseases of aging.

 

must have level one Ayurvedic Medicine to take this class

303-499-2910

info

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hey Vicky -

 

I can still throw an ok frisbie, could use some tips though and definitely would

enjoy the chance to get out and play with it with you! Will do my best on the

exchange. We might want to use ace bandages on our ankle and wrist joints for

that if it takes us a few more years to get together for it, you know.

 

Actually, there is much to be said for a vata balancing (reducing) focus after

menopause as well as postpartum. Bearing in mind extra seasonal, body type

especially vikruti influences too, still it is vata time of life. We tend to

slip into dryness, weakness, hardness, sensitivity, subtlety, changes,

forgetfulness, irregularities .... They respond very well to simple vata

pacifying measures. More oil (inside and out), support, softness, kindness,

simplicity, stability, regularity, and there are foods and herbs that really

help the last 2 and more.

 

Ysha

 

> Ysha, this sounds fascinating. you and i are about the same age, if you give

me tips when I start slipping, I'll show you how to throw a frisbee with dead on

accuracy!

[Guest guest]

I owe you already. I figured you could throw that frisbee, being 70's types that

we are. Simplicity seems the hardest to attain, what with making a living

through several sources. I've noticed that lots of sleep helps with everything,

and I find myself wishing to nap which i never did when younger. Then there are

the little fat pouches even though I'm slender, which i can't get off.

Vicky

 

-

Ysha Oakes

ayurveda

Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:44 PM

Re: PerinatalAyurveda forum * JULY 20, 21, 22 Gerontology Dr. Bharat

Vaidya,

 

 

Hey Vicky -

 

I can still throw an ok frisbie, could use some tips though and definitely

would enjoy the chance to get out and play with it with you! Will do my best on

the exchange. We might want to use ace bandages on our ankle and wrist joints

for that if it takes us a few more years to get together for it, you know.

 

Actually, there is much to be said for a vata balancing (reducing) focus after

menopause as well as postpartum. Bearing in mind extra seasonal, body type

especially vikruti influences too, still it is vata time of life. We tend to

slip into dryness, weakness, hardness, sensitivity, subtlety, changes,

forgetfulness, irregularities .... They respond very well to simple vata

pacifying measures. More oil (inside and out), support, softness, kindness,

simplicity, stability, regularity, and there are foods and herbs that really

help the last 2 and more.

 

Ysha

 

> Ysha, this sounds fascinating. you and i are about the same age, if you give

me tips when I start slipping, I'll show you how to throw a frisbee with dead on

accuracy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hopefully no one minds this digression of issue to some of us beyond

childbearing age.... Vicky, Since I can't schedule regular frisbee with you (,

I'd suggest finding someone else and do it. Good excercise outdoors does still

help with weight though I'm not sure - when you said little pouches, I thought

of the cellulite I had coming up for a while over not enough frisbee type time

myself. Ayurvedic warm oil massage before your shower helps that too.

Depending on where the pouches are....and how the digestive fires are running,

there are of course dietary and herbal supports that can help a lot.

 

The more dynamic pranayams (taught properly, with 1-2 min silence at least

between each one also) like kapalabhati can be wonderful for belly fat and belly

tone among many other benefits I can also testify to that. It is cheap

medicine, you jsut have to do it of course.... Dr. Lad has just cut a video of

the instruction which should be available for purchase in a week or so, well

worth it. Not for early postpartum months however.

 

Sleep is good medicine, again timing of meals, sleep, weather, body type/vikruti

all involved there too. And even tho it seems a forgotten one often. It can

also be a sign of imbalances in the digestive system if you should be caught up.

There must be some ayurvedic students from CCAM or AI or other schools who are

between semesters and need practice of their skills - I'd love for you to have

more attention directly and as we get older, there tends to be more of a list to

ahem,coordinate for.

 

> I owe you already.

YOu are lucky, Im not good at the counting process! Actually, you are it seems

one of those also who gives a lot because it needs to be given. We have to

simply support each other here.

 

>Simplicity seems the hardest to attain, what with making a living through

several sources.

 

It is here that we become more in need of things we could ignore before, like

sattva, reducing ama in our system, improving our digestion, (I know sounds like

a broken record at least that shoudl make it sound simpler though) rest, good

nutrition AND the effortless meditation practices, suitable yoga and pranayamas.

 

All these things CAN help reverse the entropy if you find right guidance and

habit with them. A deep effortless transcendental meditation practice has extra

benefit of organizing all the other layers of creation without having to will it

or think it through (!!!). Because health, vitality, bliss are the Divine's

desire for us also in my opinion. Certainly it is Ma Nature's desire, and she

surrenders very willingly to the guidance of her Divine completion. All these

layers ARE connected to our pure consciousness level of simply BEING, where the

superfluidity of Nature as confirmed by scientists when allowed, can gift us

it's greatest organizing power. Right practice of yoga and pranayama as well as

diet can help us experience that effortless transcending.

 

IE, in the work stress world today, there is lots of entropy we can choose to

reverse. The true holistic nature of Ayurveda has such a relationship to Yoga

(meaning union, no matter what is your religion, a rose is a rose) and Veda

(meaning pure science or knoweldge, that Knowledge which seeks out/is

experienced by she/he who is awake).

 

Ayurveda is prescriptive, to choose to use when, though we know the answers and

spontaneously self-restoring intelligence are within, we can't seem to access

them. And to use when the medical and time tested wisdom advises, such as

postpartum. It is a very great gift if we accept and use it. Yes, it is quite

the dance to fit needed changes in to our lives sometimes, yet the most powerful

way to do that is the simplest - quiet intent.

 

Namaste, Ysha

[Guest guest]

Bravo, and beautifully stated, Ysha.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you... for the reminders, love, and

balance!!!

 

With bliss,

 

Patti Garland

Bliss Kitchen

http://www.BlissKitchen.com

(760) 238-6451

 

 

On Jul 18, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Ysha Oakes wrote:

 

Hopefully no one minds this digression of issue to some of us beyond

childbearing age....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Yes, that was well stated. You are truly right for your work as you are gifted

with the intuition, knowledge and compassion needed to help new mothers trying

to find their footing in a new role as well as your peers i.e. those of us

entering the role of community elders and mentors. Quiet intent is so powerful.

I find I need to be alone with myself more to find my way and live it rather

than socializing much and listening to so many talking about what and how it

should be done. I also thank you for this and so much wisdom and practical

information you share with the group, Ysha.

 

Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

Postpartum Care Services

Portland, OR

 

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Vicky and Patty -

It is a blessing to be able to pass on that which makes such a difference for

me, and what has been given to me I " ve just been a good student of here and

there, can't take credit for the amazing lineage of intelligence you know.

Peace - Ysha