brown patch on tongue

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know what it means when there is a brown coating/patch in the center

of a baby's tongue (6 mos. old)

 

Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

Postpartum Care Services

Portland, OR

 

www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It could be an indication of rising Vata in the digestive system. Are

there supporting signs?

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, New Zealand

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

 

 

ayurveda , " Vicky York " <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know what it means when there is a brown coating/patch in

the center of a baby's tongue (6 mos. old)

>

> Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

> Postpartum Care Services

> Portland, OR

>

> www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

> references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gerald, thank you for responding. I am not well enough versed in ayurvedic

healing to answer that question directly. But I can tell you the baby has been

strictly breastfed and recently started on solids, first rice broth and then

rice cereal and then vegies and fruits including pears. She has become

constipated and her sleep has become more scanty at night. I'm having the mother

go back towards breastfeeding only and reintroducing solids more gradually, and

adding mung beans which she did not do on my first recommendation.

Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

Postpartum Care Services

Portland, OR

 

www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

 

-

Gerald Lopez

ayurveda

Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:46 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: brown patch on tongue

 

 

It could be an indication of rising Vata in the digestive system. Are

there supporting signs?

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, New Zealand

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

 

ayurveda , " Vicky York " <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know what it means when there is a brown coating/patch in

the center of a baby's tongue (6 mos. old)

>

> Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

> Postpartum Care Services

> Portland, OR

>

> www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

> references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicky,

 

 

 

Constipation can cause scanty sleep and the brown coating, all signs of

vata. Pears are vata provoking. What does the group say about Mung Beans? To

me it seems like Mung beans are harder to digest than veggies like carrots.

 

 

 

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[ayurveda ] On Behalf Of Vicky York

Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:10 AM

ayurveda

Re: PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: brown patch on tongue

 

 

 

Gerald, thank you for responding. I am not well enough versed in ayurvedic

healing to answer that question directly. But I can tell you the baby has

been strictly breastfed and recently started on solids, first rice broth and

then rice cereal and then vegies and fruits including pears. She has become

constipated and her sleep has become more scanty at night. I'm having the

mother go back towards breastfeeding only and reintroducing solids more

gradually, and adding mung beans which she did not do on my first

recommendation.

Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

Postpartum Care Services

Portland, OR

 

www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

 

-

Gerald Lopez

ayurveda@ <ayurveda%40>

 

Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:46 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: brown patch on tongue

 

It could be an indication of rising Vata in the digestive system. Are

there supporting signs?

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, New Zealand

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflif <http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

e.co.nz>

 

ayurveda@ <ayurveda%40>

, " Vicky York " <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> Does anyone know what it means when there is a brown coating/patch in

the center of a baby's tongue (6 mos. old)

>

> Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

> Postpartum Care Services

> Portland, OR

>

> www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

> references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In my experience, brown patch on tongue is yeast overgrowth, a type of thrush,

probably directly from mom.

 

**Amissa Burton, RYT ** " Minds, Like Parachutes, Function Best When Open "  

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It seems like the baby would have thrush before she'd have a brown patch on the

tongue. I'll ask the mom about yeast. Vicky

-

Amissa Burton

ayurveda

Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:55 AM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Re:brown patch on tongue

 

 

In my experience, brown patch on tongue is yeast overgrowth, a type of thrush,

probably directly from mom.

 

**Amissa Burton, RYT ** " Minds, Like Parachutes, Function Best When Open "

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicky,

 

Constipation and poor sleep are also indicators of Vata aggravation.

 

Make sure the fruits are sweet and well cooked. I don't know much about

giving pulses to infants, but to make the mung lentils more digestible,

small pinches of ginger, cumin powder and asafoetida (hing) could be

added. Alternatively, it can be given as a sweet porridge, with sugar

and some ghee.

 

The ayurvedic texts recommend rice or wheat kanji (thin gruel) -

according to what the mother is used to - to which is added ingedients

like salt, ghee, curd, milk, licorice powder, and sugar. Mild meats such

as chicken can also be made into soups.

 

Pacify Vata with warm, sweet, unctuous, soft and smooth foods. Take care

that mum's Vata is pacified too, otherwise she could be producing

Vata-aggravating milk. She can take sweet roots and veggies, have oil

massages and enemas, and take shatavari, e.g. in a paste. Mums respond

really well to Shatavari Gulam - its great for abundant milk production.

 

Gently rub baby's tummy in clockwise direction, with warmed castor or

sesame oil, to encourage proper movement of Vata. Keep her warm, esp at

night. A few drops of castor oil can be applied on mum's nipple so baby

takes it during feed, to help relieve the constipation.

 

I know there is controversy about cow's milk, but I used to give my son

organic, non-homogenised full cream milk which had been heated with some

ginger and cinnamon powder, with a little ghee and some raw sugar or

honey added. It seemed to work well for him.

 

I don't have much experience advising re: infants, but I hope this

helps, and welcome any comments!

 

Best regards,

Gerald

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz

<http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

 

 

ayurveda , " Vicky York " <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> Gerald, thank you for responding. I am not well enough versed in

ayurvedic healing to answer that question directly. But I can tell you

the baby has been strictly breastfed and recently started on solids,

first rice broth and then rice cereal and then vegies and fruits

including pears. She has become constipated and her sleep has become

more scanty at night. I'm having the mother go back towards

breastfeeding only and reintroducing solids more gradually, and adding

mung beans which she did not do on my first recommendation.

> Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hey Vicky - do you know which vegetables? Some are vata increasing

also, though the constipation discussion is a stronger hint the food

is too dense and quickly introduced, vatagenic fruits and veggies as

well as constipation can contribute to sleep disturbance. I believe

Joseph's comment is very well taken, how constipation does that, so

does indigestion (another sign of vata imbalance). Is she giving

pears with the rice cereal? Food combining wise, it will tend Baby to

gas/fermentation. Yes, I believe the middle of the tongue represents

small or large intestine...?

 

Hi Gerald - you did really well for someone who supposedly can't

counsel about babies --

 

> Constipation and poor sleep are also indicators of Vata aggravation.

> Make sure the fruits are sweet and well cooked.

YES, and warm, and freshly cooked helps much too

 

I don't know much about giving pulses to infants, but to make the mung

lentils more digestible, small pinches of ginger, cumin powder and

asafoetida (hing) could be added.

 

Vicky has given the mother a recipe we use, with the split hulled

variety, cooked like the rice into a thin broth. Starting with a rice

broth for a week or so, gradually giving thicker, then you can add if

baby is not constipated, the mung broth there, I would be also using

with these basic spices.

 

Alternatively, it can be given as a sweet porridge, with sugar and

some ghee.

 

I like this idea too, assuming the sweetness is not maple, cooked

honey, supermarket white or brown, or heavy handed anything. Sweet

taste is, of the 6, the one that not only gives contentment, but the

one from which the body creates tissue. That is Baby's job, to build.

Mother's milk is naturally sweet. Pulses are in general difficult to

digest and source of astringent taste which is not only made of earth

element, also air - easily gas promoting. To counterract that, we

thin, cook well, soak first, serve freshly cooked and warm, same day,

use spices, salt, use ghee, and sometimes also use sweet or sour. All

influences in this case which reduce vata. Split and hulled mung is

one of the most easily digested and high protein pulses for many.

 

The thing is also, Parents start to feed their babies solids all at

once - even tho it is pureed,it is still a very sudden change unless

we start very thinly prepared. Parents start solids often to get Baby

to sleep better at night more than anything else, it seems (I did, I

admit, though I waited till other signs appropriate appeared with body

enzymes ready, first teeth etc) and to get them to have food enough to

suddenly make them sleep thru the night, we are giving them volumes

and thick porridge etc. Instant constipation, specially if there is

no fat in it. A little clarified butter goes a long way, and can also

be put on the nipple for baby until bowels are moving. And/Or rubbed

on anus (or castor oil) to facilitate a bowel movement sometimes. We

prefer not to put castor oil on nipple; it works, so does little finger.

>

> The ayurvedic texts recommend rice or wheat kanji (thin gruel) -

> according to what the mother is used to - to which is added

ingedients like salt, ghee, curd, milk, licorice powder, and sugar.

Mild meats such as chicken can also be made into soups.

 

Thanks for sharing this, I had not seen, and coming from vegetarian

tradition/training, the last line would not have been included. Can

you cite the texts, for our future reference?

>

> Pacify Vata with warm, sweet, unctuous, soft and smooth foods. Take

care that mum's Vata is pacified too, otherwise she could be producing

> Vata-aggravating milk. She can take sweet roots and veggies, have

oil massages and enemas, and take shatavari, e.g. in a paste. Mums

respond really well to Shatavari Gulam - its great for abundant milk

production.

 

YES! WArm, unctuous, freshly cooked, easy to digest (includes

digestive seasonings) yes, you can see the list of foods and qualities

to favor and avoid in the postpartum section of the group files.

 

And, please share what is Shatavari Gulam, and do you have a recipe?

>

Warm Regards -

Ysha

 

> I don't have much experience advising re: infants, but I hope this

> helps, and welcome any comments!

>

> Best regards,

> Gerald

[Guest guest]

HI Amissa -

 

Please share your experience further! Yeast certainly grows in gut

that is low in digestive fire and collecting ama, incomplete products

of digestion. With vata mom, or habits of feeding baby too often even

from the breast, ama can build up and contribute to this. Exacerbated

more by possible poor food combining/fermenation=yeast. Either way,

the concommittant discussions around vata are applicable and wisely

included in assessment and management. Looking forward to hearing

your client or personal experience and management of it.

 

Warm Regards - Ysha

 

> In my experience, brown patch on tongue is yeast overgrowth, a type

of thrush, probably directly from mom.

>

> **Amissa Burton, RYT ** " Minds, Like Parachutes, Function Best

When Open "  

[Guest guest]

Hi Joseph -

 

Yes, we could I " m sure argue this around most foods, one being harder

to digest than another. Mung is harder to digest generally than

carrots, though when feeding solids to Baby, we do begin to introduce

a balanced diet which includes proteins. We find babies who are

started all on sweet tasting things, have trouble sometimes accepting

balance of the tastes (veggies) though adding gentle spicing and ghee

goes a long way. I expect you have read my other post responding to

Gerald where discussed this further.

 

So happy to have you with us! Warm greetings also to Rose.

 

Ysha

[Guest guest]

Well after getting everyone thinking about this, it turns out that the brown

spot on the baby's tongue was a patch of oxidized pear, it was just the color of

the brown spots on a pear. When wiped with a gauze, it would come off. One thing

I got out of this is that it is probably good to steam even pears for easier

digestion and if the mom had steamed it, it probably wouldn't have stuck to her

tongue. Maybe.

Still I'm glad to have started the thread about what first foods to feed baby;

it's an area where I still have much to learn.

 

Vicky York, CPD, IBCLC

Postpartum Care Services

Portland, OR

 

www.vickyyorkpostpartumdoula.com

references: www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

 

-

Ysha Oakes

ayurveda

Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:20 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum Re:brown patch on tongue

 

 

HI Amissa -

 

Please share your experience further! Yeast certainly grows in gut

that is low in digestive fire and collecting ama, incomplete products

of digestion. With vata mom, or habits of feeding baby too often even

from the breast, ama can build up and contribute to this. Exacerbated

more by possible poor food combining/fermenation=yeast. Either way,

the concommittant discussions around vata are applicable and wisely

included in assessment and management. Looking forward to hearing

your client or personal experience and management of it.

 

Warm Regards - Ysha

 

> In my experience, brown patch on tongue is yeast overgrowth, a type

of thrush, probably directly from mom.

>

> **Amissa Burton, RYT ** " Minds, Like Parachutes, Function Best

When Open "

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Haha! Very funny, glad you sorted that one out! Yes, some raw fruits may

be hard on digestion and would benefit from stewing...

 

The other suggestions re:Vata imbalance still apply as constipation and

poor sleep are first stages of imbalance, and should be addressed.

 

The references for giving of meat soups, in particular quail (lava) and

black partridge (tittira), are Bala Veda by VB Athavale, and

Kaumarabhrtya by PV Tewari. These both are compilations of the classic

texts, mainly Kashyapa Samhita. Charaka has mentioned the use of meats

as the best for building muscle tissue (mamsa dhatu), especially in Vata

people. My lecturer, Dr.Vijay Srinivasamurthy, told us of the use of

meat soup enemas for cachexic children, with excellent results. Meat is

boiled for a long time, with some salt, Pippali (Piper longum) and

jaggery added.

 

In my researches for this topic, I was also quite interested to find

extensive material about dosha-aggravated mother's milk, recognisable by

its taste and other qualities, and the importance of treating the mother

as well. Is this something you look at?

 

Replying to Ysha's query, Shatavari Gulam is a jam or paste, similar to

Chawanprash, made with Shatavari, Licorice, Ginger, Sariva, Pippali and

other herbs, with Jaggery. Very nutritious, very tasty, with

phytooestrogens to support women at all stages of life. Especially

recommended for lactation and menopause. I get it from India and sell it

at my online store (shop.ScienceOfLife.co.nz

<http://scienceoflife.co.nz/shop> ). Alternatively, you could learn

the art of making pastes (lehyam) and produce it yourselves! Would love

to show you if you invited me over!

 

Anyway, must go, I'm off with the family for a week's camping - the

traditional Kiwi summer holiday!

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, New Zealand

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

 

 

ayurveda , " Vicky York " <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> Well after getting everyone thinking about this, it turns out that the

brown spot on the baby's tongue was a patch of oxidized pear, it was

just the color of the brown spots on a pear. When wiped with a gauze, it

would come off. One thing I got out of this is that it is

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Happy camping, Gerald.

 

Thanks for all the good info!!! It's so fascinating.

 

I've been doing a lot of poaching these days.

 

In bliss,

 

Patti Garland

Ayurvedic Chef and Organic Gardener

Bliss Kitchen

http://www.BlissKitchen.com

(760) 238-6451

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Jan 10, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Gerald Lopez wrote:

 

Haha! Very funny, glad you sorted that one out! Yes, some raw fruits may

be hard on digestion and would benefit from stewing...

 

The other suggestions re:Vata imbalance still apply as constipation and

poor sleep are first stages of imbalance, and should be addressed.

 

The references for giving of meat soups, in particular quail (lava) and

black partridge (tittira), are Bala Veda by VB Athavale, and

Kaumarabhrtya by PV Tewari. These both are compilations of the classic

texts, mainly Kashyapa Samhita. Charaka has mentioned the use of meats

as the best for building muscle tissue (mamsa dhatu), especially in Vata

people. My lecturer, Dr.Vijay Srinivasamurthy, told us of the use of

meat soup enemas for cachexic children, with excellent results. Meat is

boiled for a long time, with some salt, Pippali (Piper longum) and

jaggery added.

 

In my researches for this topic, I was also quite interested to find

extensive material about dosha-aggravated mother's milk, recognisable by

its taste and other qualities, and the importance of treating the mother

as well. Is this something you look at?

 

Replying to Ysha's query, Shatavari Gulam is a jam or paste, similar to

Chawanprash, made with Shatavari, Licorice, Ginger, Sariva, Pippali and

other herbs, with Jaggery. Very nutritious, very tasty, with

phytooestrogens to support women at all stages of life. Especially

recommended for lactation and menopause. I get it from India and sell it

at my online store (shop.ScienceOfLife.co.nz

<http://scienceoflife.co.nz/shop> ). Alternatively, you could learn

the art of making pastes (lehyam) and produce it yourselves! Would love

to show you if you invited me over!

 

Anyway, must go, I'm off with the family for a week's camping - the

traditional Kiwi summer holiday!

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, New Zealand

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

 

ayurveda , " Vicky York " <VMYORK

wrote:

>

> Well after getting everyone thinking about this, it turns out that

the

brown spot on the baby's tongue was a patch of oxidized pear, it was

just the color of the brown spots on a pear. When wiped with a gauze, it

would come off. One thing I got out of this is that it is

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Gerald -

your comments to Vicky echoed mine in private email alongside

encouragement to share the pears discovery..

 

> Haha! Very funny, glad you sorted that one out! Yes, some raw fruits

may be hard on digestion and would benefit from stewing...

etc

 

> The references for giving of meat soups, in particular quail (lava)

and black partridge (tittira), are Bala Veda by VB Athavale, and

> Kaumarabhrtya by PV Tewari. These both are compilations of the

classic texts, mainly Kashyapa Samhita. Charaka has mentioned the use

of meats as the best for building muscle tissue (mamsa dhatu), ...

 

PS to others, bala means strength. Foods and herbs are classified

when appropriate by which tissue (or system) they are specific to.

 

SO - these references were specific to vata, or specific to (how many

days/weeks into) postpartum? There are some Ayurvedic specifics

beyond vata pacification, for the first 6-8 weeks.

 

Classic Ayurvedic learning stories tell how anything can be used as

medicine in the proper context. As we have strong vegetarians in the

group, and among clients and practitioners we always want to give

options. We were also trained to encourage mothers to avoid the

rajasic influences of meats even in soups if possible, for at least

3-4 weeks after childbirth, and I have seen how, even with (rare

cases) Mama and Baby handling red meats digestivly fine, the rajasic

drive to DO something gives much unhappy frustrated crying in Babies.

(Most mothers are willing to work with this even if non-vegetarian,

by my experience. Most mothers in early pp eating red meats have

chronic constipation, by my client experience).

 

Some Moms are just more difficult to find sufficient proteins they

handle well as carefully as we apply our ayurvedic digestive support

wisdom to cooking, and then soups of poultry are the preferred, and

quail may sometimes be found in markets here. We must take a

respective reflection on Todd Caledcott's discussions, I believe, how

globally/client history wise both there are genetics we can see who

not " designed well " to be vegetarian, and are much healthier commonly

when some animal food is ingested.

 

Nonetheless, being one of those, I can notice the spiritual and

physical heaviness and have sought, and been given answers. Without

ashwagandha and other herbs, and flaxed dairy (or other sulfur bearing

proteins with the flax oil, which does seemingly nothing by the way

taken otherwise) I start to become airy, ungrounded, and a bit

disfunctional. With it, there is not the need or interest in any

animal meat proteins. This is why I lean also with some clients,

after 2-3 weeks time to strengthen basic low agni, into Dr. Johanna

Budwig's flaxed cheese as I call it - fresh soft cheeses blended with

highest lignan flax oil and a touch of ground flax seed and spices,

maybe some citrus peel or honey. By my experience and others, there

is some " magic " that occurs in terms of less mucous forming and more

digestible foods when in combo here. It tends to be really FEELS good

w/o complications by those who eat it.

>

> In my researches for this topic, I was also quite interested to find

> extensive material about dosha-aggravated mother's milk,

recognisable by its taste and other qualities, and the importance of

treating the mother as well. Is this something you look at?

 

Definitely, it is a fascinating discussion. ONe can find some detail

in our Foundations of Postpartum Care and Cooking chapter on

Nourishing Baby, although my sources are from teachers it does play

out directly with how babies respond emotionally as well as physically

and is, without saying as many words, an intimate part of assessing

what is going on with baby's condition day to day by virtue of Mom's

diet, appetite, digestion and elimination symptoms. vata milk thinner

and more gas/drying/constipating producing and less satisfying,

sometimes astringent tasting, pitta can be sour, cramping, creating

rashes, less calming also. kapha excess is heavier, sometimes harder

to digest, too rich or ama producing, constipating et al, creates

chubby babies, sometimes dulling. Color variations involved as well.

There are herbs for each to restore balance in short term as well as

dietary recs for Mom.

 

> Replying to Ysha's query, Shatavari Gulam is a jam or paste, similar

to Chawanprash, made with Shatavari, Licorice, Ginger, Sariva, Pippali

and other herbs, with Jaggery. Very nutritious, very tasty, with

phytooestrogens to support women at all stages of life. Especially

recommended for lactation and menopause. I get it from India and sell

it at my online store (shop.ScienceOfLife.co.nz

> <http://scienceoflife.co.nz/shop> ).

 

I have enjoyed this avalehya by another name. Women love it, yes!

 

Alternatively, you could learn the art of making pastes (lehyam) and

produce it yourselves! Would love to show you if you invited me over!

 

Would gratefully have you over for a class, for dinner, whatever might

work should you find yourself in this part of the world, Gerald! Yes,

many of us undoubtedly would love to have a tested recipe for it,

though acknowledge from other herbal preparations Dr. Shrestha has

demonstrated in my kitchen, there can be unusual processes it is best

to see and do, not just read about.

 

I'm remembering how for many weeks, one of my cast iron pans smelled

of sulphur after learning to purify sulfur...not sure I ever was able

to use it again for food. One batch, by the way, lasts a very long

time (very small dosages) and was eventually given to an herbal

pharmacy for better use.

 

> Anyway, must go, I'm off with the family for a week's camping - the

> traditional Kiwi summer holiday!

 

OH, sounds wonderful! Too cold/wet really to take a walk here even!

I hope you have a lovely holiday, and find lots of sweet Kiwis...

 

*0) - Ysha

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti -

 

Poaching...with recipes to reduce fats in cooking? Kapha weather

there or were you thinking about poaching kiwis? Love to be in your

kitchen playing with you...

 

WArmly,

Ysha

 

> I've been doing a lot of poaching these days.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ysha,

 

Just taking a morning off from the camping. The great thing about

Auckland, is you can take the family out to the sticks and the beach,

and be back in less than an hour!

 

> PS to others, bala means strength. Foods and herbs are classified

> when appropriate by which tissue (or system) they are specific to.

>

 

Yes, bala has several meanings. Also means " child " - hence Bala Veda is

" knowledge of children " .

 

> SO - these references were specific to vata, or specific to (how many

> days/weeks into) postpartum? There are some Ayurvedic specifics

> beyond vata pacification, for the first 6-8 weeks.

>

 

The references are dosha-specific, and relate to supplementary diet

given at about 6 mths, when teeth are breaking through and solids are

being introduced. For instances, grains and starches to introduce will

depend on the dosha of the child, or any dosha imbalance that needs to

be corrected.

 

On the whole, only breast milk is recommended post-partum, with herb

mixtures given to support brain and tissue development.

 

Interestingly, the herbs were given with honey - yet, nowadays honey is

frowned upon because of the supposed risk of botulism... hmmm...

 

In view of this, mild herbs can be introduced in the form of pastes

(lehyam), medicated ghee, or syrups, of course only in small quantities.

 

> work should you find yourself in this part of the world, Gerald! Yes,

> many of us undoubtedly would love to have a tested recipe for it,

> though acknowledge from other herbal preparations Dr. Shrestha has

> demonstrated in my kitchen, there can be unusual processes it is best

> to see and do, not just read about.

 

Yes, there are countless " classic " recipes, but many of the ingredients

are not readily available. So we need to create our own " classics " using

what we know and have.

 

The thing to remember, is that the techniques are dead simple, and such

a joy to do. I remember the times we spent, while I was in college,

grinding, stirring, sifting, sieving, and pounding away, making all

sorts of avalehyams, medicated wines, medicated ghees, herbal pills,

suppositories and even herbal (yes ayurvedic) smokes! These are skills

that people formerly had - of producing good quality medicines that are

safe and effective. For instance a cough syrup carefully made at home is

probably safer and more effective than much of the commercial stuff.

 

Given the basics, I feel it is for us " pioneers " to recreate our

pharmacopoeia of simple remedies and tonics, experimenting with proven

herbs from our own backyards. If anyone is interested, I can post the

technique to make simple avalehyams which can be modified for pregnant

and post-partum women, infants, children, for whatever conditions. While

they should not be used for serious illnesses - please consult a health

practitioner for this - they can certainly support people in all stages

of life.

 

After trying a basic recipe, you can alter it with different herbs and

spices. It is an ongoing learning process, just like the sages went

through many thousands of years ago!

 

> OH, sounds wonderful! Too cold/wet really to take a walk here even!

> I hope you have a lovely holiday, and find lots of sweet Kiwis...

 

Not sure which " sweet Kiwis " you mean! ... the feathery ones are now

rare, and usually hiding and only come out at night! But am enjoying the

time out anyway... giving me lots of ideas about spreading common sense

approaches to health.

 

Thank you Ysha and the other contributors, for the fantastic work you

are doing. Best wishes and blessings for a New Year of joy and wellness.

 

Best regards,

Gerald

Auckland, New Zealand

www.ScienceOfLife.co.nz <http://scienceoflife.co.nz>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Gerald -

 

So true, it is so much fun to see them at work.

 

> The thing to remember, is that the techniques are dead simple, and

such a joy to do. .. Given the basics, I feel it is for us " pioneers "

to recreate our pharmacopoeia of simple remedies and tonics,

experimenting with proven herbs from our own backyards.

 

Yes, not just pharmacopoeia, also adapting culinary recipes, and doing

needed education depending upon what issues are in front of us/our

loved ones/our clients, based upon these same simple principles.

 

>If anyone is interested, I can post the technique to make simple

avalehyams which can be modified for pregnant and post-partum women,

infants, children, for whatever conditions.

 

Please, I'm not the only one interested!

 

> After trying a basic recipe, you can alter it with different herbs

 

> Not sure which " sweet Kiwis " you mean! ... the feathery ones are now

> rare, and usually hiding and only come out at night! But am

 

I'd forgotten about the bird variety, was thinking of ripe kiwi fruit.

You have there? And I wasn't sure if it also was a way of talking

about locals too!

 

As always, your posts are such a wonderful learning -

 

Ysha