formula recipe for underweight infant

[Guest guest]

Namaskar Group,

 

Can anyone share a homemade recipe for infants that could help for weight gain?

 

The little one needing it is very underweight and beginning to show signs of not

thriving.

He is only 8 weeks old and the mother apparently is not producing enough milk.

 

I will work with her stress levels and suggest shatavari and ashwaganda to

supplement the

fenugreek that she is already taking.

 

This baby is the one I have already mentioned to the group several times in the

past

month. The mom's nipples were very sore, but have greatly improved. The baby

was in

the hospital with two bacterial infections at 2 1/2 weeks. He is beginning to

appear

dangerously underweight.

 

Support is most appreciated!

 

Warm regards,

 

Kim Luchau

Infant/Mother Craniosacral Therapist

Kaua'i, HI

Phone: 808.822.4644

[Guest guest]

Kim, one thing to work on is get her pumping...a lot. Then she can get an

oversupply, let it sit half an hour, skim off the fat and give him that first.

His gut has been compromised with the antibiotics, I hate to see him on formula,

but it is necessary ifhe failing to thrive.

I think others will have more to offer. It has been said that mothers eating a

fattier (good fats) diet will fatten her milk.

Bring on the pudding and avocados.

 

 

Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD

Postpartum Care Services

Portland, Oregon

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/

www.ikarma.com/user/vmyork

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jivanimark

ayurveda

Monday, July 14, 2008 11:41 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum formula recipe for underweight infant

 

 

Namaskar Group,

 

Can anyone share a homemade recipe for infants that could help for weight

gain?

 

The little one needing it is very underweight and beginning to show signs of

not thriving.

He is only 8 weeks old and the mother apparently is not producing enough milk.

 

I will work with her stress levels and suggest shatavari and ashwaganda to

supplement the

fenugreek that she is already taking.

 

This baby is the one I have already mentioned to the group several times in

the past

month. The mom's nipples were very sore, but have greatly improved. The baby

was in

the hospital with two bacterial infections at 2 1/2 weeks. He is beginning to

appear

dangerously underweight.

 

Support is most appreciated!

 

Warm regards,

 

Kim Luchau

Infant/Mother Craniosacral Therapist

Kaua'i, HI

Phone: 808.822.4644

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

not sure if i can direct you to another , ( i am sure yasha

here will give you excellent advice) but one group that deals with this

is " mobi " mothers overcoming breastfeeding issues.

they are great, skilled and compassionate:)

 

blessings

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much! I have forwarded this link and am certain it will be most

useful.

 

This mom has several formula recipes now that her naturopath gave her. I still

would be curious how ayurveda approaches infant formula. Obviously it is a last

resort.

 

The mom's chest definitely gets tight and milk hardly flows when she is

stressed. This I am lovingly, patiently addressing.

 

As always, I extend my gratitude to this forum and all its contributors.

 

warmly,

 

Kim Luchau

Infant/Mom Craniosacral Therapist

Kaua'i, Hawaii

phone: 808-822-4644

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 7/16/08, noeljayashree <jayashree.noel wrote:

 

> noeljayashree <jayashree.noel

> PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: formula recipe for underweight infant

> ayurveda

> Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 1:06 AM

> not sure if i can direct you to another , ( i am

> sure yasha

> here will give you excellent advice) but one group that

> deals with this

> is " mobi " mothers overcoming breastfeeding

> issues.

> they are great, skilled and compassionate:)

>

> blessings

[Guest guest]

Mom's milk seems to be the best solution for the baby, as gut flora

are disturbed by antibiotics. More than weight, immune system

building is the important contribution by mom. While herbal approach

is already being tried, a drugless approach involving accu pressure 1-

2 minutes on each point, taking just 10-15 minutes thrice a day may

be helpful. Easily locatable points are given at

 

http://www.herbalshop.com/Acupressure/Acupressure_54.html

 

But be gentle in the beginning, gradually increasing pressure/time.

 

dr bhate

_________________________________

The little one needing it is very underweight and beginning to show

signs of not thriving.

He is only 8 weeks old and the mother apparently is not producing

enough milk.

>

> I will work with her stress levels and suggest shatavari and

ashwaganda to supplement the

> fenugreek that she is already taking.

>

> This baby is the one I have already mentioned to the group several

times in the past

> month. The mom's nipples were very sore, but have greatly

improved.

[Guest guest]

Great site, thanks for posting, Dr. Bhate

 

Yes, increasing mom's supply would be most direct and valuable

support, even while one may or may not have to attempt to find a

formula that gives comfort with nourishment, and certainly providing

extra probiotic support for Baby. See files for notes from a recent

talk given at the southwest Vitamin Cottage stores, on Happy Baby

Tummies. You will see some brief notes about qualities of several

types of formulas and what doshic influences, toxins, ama, etc are

likely to be at issue.

 

For immediately increasing supply, REST, FULL BODY WARM OIL MASSAGE

(reminder here of the self-massage guidelines at

www.sacredwindow.com/articles), the accupressure points sound good,

dietary factors are very big here, and if possible, herbal support

that includes shatavari and probably a dipana (agni/digestive fires

supportive) herb also, and some jatamamsi and brahmi, or a little

saraswati churna in small portion sounds good for her, to ground the

mind. Hot baths, add calming eoils if available. some mothers get

results applying fennel oil to breasts, though it does not address

longevity solutions.

 

If Mom is taking fenugreek in capsules, she may have complications in

these days early postpartum, with tender innards the caps tend to

stick as they absorb bodily moisture from the membranes, and then the

ground dry fenugreek is very harsh on tender insides. Strong

fenugreek tea will be much wiser - 1 tsp boil 4-5 minutes max in cup

of water (make fresh daily). 2-3 cups/day would be helpful.

 

Add tsp ghee or even organic butter or sesame oil (ghee tastes better)

and be sure she has ample vata pacifying warm freshly cooked well

seasoned for agni foods etc, see files, with extra ghee added to just

about everything, and foods served extra moist for a while yet.

 

With appetite strong (can enhance with even fresh ginger slice with

pinch sugar or salt and squeeze lime before meal and ample roasted

garlic, which also enhances milk production, and other suitable

seasonings esp the lactation enhancers, in the foods) she should be

eating 5X a day herself including enough carbs and all food groups in

balance, nourishing yummy snacks and warm milk tonics.

 

By the way, we are not talking about ingesting milk making milk,

directly. We are talking about the tremendous vata pacifying

qualities of milk, and other foods, which reduce tension, enhance

serotonin, and support body's quick response in the direction it is

made to go, and will go given the chance, which is ample supply for

Baby. It is about getting the right qUALITIES in her experience in

abundance, to nourish the feeling of abundance in her physiology.

 

It is about much more than just energy medicine although the points

certainly may help the physical to work better when obstructed or weak

energy. The thing is, bringing a new soul in involves grounding

structures, moisture and smoothness, fluidity, good chemistry, warmth,

and strong transformative functioning of the physical body. THat's

earth, water and fire element focus by my experience most important

and lasting influences. The air and space elements, including which

govern the nervous system and subtler energies, need soothing and

reconnecting supports.

 

So often in the early postpartum days, what may appear emotional

problem is really body responding emotionally to not knowing how to

attend to itself and baby both, confusions often most quickly

corrected by taking care of Mom's physiology, yes. We all know a

woman is born to naturally provide well for her baby. So when it

isn't happening, I encourage everyone to keep asking and exploring the

wisdom and common sense of Ma Nature until the answers show up, as

long as your client is willing to work with you on this.

 

I really like Dr. Bhate's reminder of the significant difference in

immune system strength with breast milk vs formulas. I also like

Vicki's suggestion to give the cream milk first to help rebuild, if

possible.

 

There are formulas on the forum, if you search the archives or files,

not sure where or I loose this page. If she wants a couple homemade

formulas one with diluted and balanced unhomogenized cow, one with

rice protein/balanced, which are not so hard on the digestion as many

even homemade formulas, email me Ayurdoulas (at) gmail.com.

 

Blessings,

Ysha

[Guest guest]

thanks for the massage chart, that is very helpful. one of my clients recently

had low supply and i also told her to supplement with blue green algae,

spirulina, she did that with the fenugreek and her supply doubled very quickly.

mavis

 

 

Mavis Gewant

 

Sacred Artist & Doula

 

 

 

www.sacredmotherarts.com

 

www.gentlecaredoulaservice.com

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Mavis -

 

Did I miss something re the massage chart? Not sure what that's

about. Yes, of course fenugreek helps many, or it wouldn't be so well

known. I find the moms who are heartier to begin with, and later

postpartum do better with pill/capsule or whatever they can get. I

just have seen moms have actual pain with it, and no real results, and

the reasons are very simple, and common to mothers in the early

postpartum weeks, as discussed in previous post, hence my caution.

 

What do you know about the algae and spirolina why it is so helpful?

Is it the bvities, minerals, protein, or?

 

Ysha

 

> thanks for the massage chart, that is very helpful. one of my

clients recently had low supply and i also told her to supplement with

blue green algae, spirulina, she did that with the fenugreek and her

supply doubled very quickly.

[Guest guest]

the massage chart, i meant the website that dr. bhate posted with all the

pressure points to increase milk.

i had heard about the bluegreen algae from some lactation consultants, it is

very high in protein, minerals and lipids and efa's, so i imagine it helps give

a boost. it is lactogenic and helps increase the fat content in the breastmilk

here is an interesting website about spirulina

http://www.antennaindia.org/detail_page.phtml? & username=guest (AT) antennaindia (DOT) org & p\

assword=9999 & groups=ANTINDIA & page=spirulina

also a good site:

http://www.mobimotherhood.org/MM/article-diet.aspx

thanks,

mavis

 

 

Mavis Gewant

Sacred Artist & Doula

 

www.sacredmotherarts.com

www.gentlecaredoulaservice.com

[Guest guest]

Thanks MAvis -

 

Great links you've shared. Except for the rec of raw salad in

mother's diet, I'm sure many are helped greatly by those resources.

 

It is interesting to me that somehow seaweeds are not generally used

with classical ayurvedics, and I don't know why. They seem to me very

valuable nutrient rich vegetable sources, and we sometimes cook them

into soups or veggetable dishes for postpartum moms. - or sometimes

we make moist rice and steamed veg " sushi " rolls (always a hit) with a

lime/cayenne/salty/sweet dipping sauce, toasted sesame seeds with a

well cooked and seasoned lentil soup of some sort.

 

The spirolina - probably as " easily digested and assimilated " as it

is, will create less side effects on mama or baby digestion when not

taken cold temp, or with fruits, unless maybe papaya.

 

I've been thinking of you and how wonderful it would be to take your

Shri Yantra painting class. Just bought a little set of 4 entry

protection yantras as I have a west entrance area, from my friend

Sherri Silverman who recently published a beautiful Vastu book. Love

them!

 

Warm Regards,

Ysha

 

> i had heard about the bluegreen algae from some lactation

consultants, it is very high in protein, minerals and lipids and

efa's, so i imagine it helps give a boost. it is lactogenic and helps