New Born & Good Formula

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

 

Baby " Ria " was born 2 days ago by cesarean. Mom is unable to produce any milk

yet. Mom is also allergic to fenugreek. I heard that fenugreek is good for

producing breast milk. Is there any other herbs mom can take? Baby Ria has a

lot of diarrhea and the hospital had changed two formulas (milk and soy based)

but she seems to get gas and diarrhea.

 

We are looking for some suggestions for good formula.

 

Someone suggested Carnation good start and gripe water.

 

Please advice.

 

Thank you,

Dhara

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Dhara

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Why would a 2 day old baby be getting any formula if she is breastfeeding and

getting colostrum? No wonder her system is messed up already. Not to mention

nipple confusion from getting bottle nipples when she should be getting ONLY the

breast. Mama only needs for a lactation consultant to be helping her with

breastfeeding, don't worry about fenugreek, if she is allergic, the main thing

is working on the latch and getting the baby to breast a lot. C-sections often

seem to cause the milk to be delayed in coming in, but no worry, just keep her

at the breast. Even sugar water would have been better than formula at this

point. And even if formula had been necessary because of a complete inability to

nurse, the baby should only be getting less than 2 ounces every 3 hours in a

bottle. Other herbs can help besides fenugreek, see below.

a.. Evening primrose, Fenugreek, blessed thistle, milk thistle, alfalfa,

astragalus root burdock, nettle, vervain, goats rue, especially for minimal

breast tissue. Try these first for mild milk insufficiency. Excessive or misused

herbs and infusions can be harmful to mom and/or babe.

b.. Domperidone (only galactagogue actually proven to be effective but who

knows what kind of studies " proved " that)

Vicky

 

 

 

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Dhara Jani

ayurveda

Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:39 PM

PerinatalAyurveda forum New Born & Good Formula

 

 

Dear Group,

 

Baby " Ria " was born 2 days ago by cesarean. Mom is unable to produce any milk

yet. Mom is also allergic to fenugreek. I heard that fenugreek is good for

producing breast milk. Is there any other herbs mom can take? Baby Ria has a lot

of diarrhea and the hospital had changed two formulas (milk and soy based) but

she seems to get gas and diarrhea.

 

We are looking for some suggestions for good formula.

 

Someone suggested Carnation good start and gripe water.

 

Please advice.

 

Thank you,

Dhara

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Dhara

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Dhara !

Here's a tried and true and simple solution, which has worked extremely

well with the group of mothers with whom we have influence. It's really

simple

 

Just arrange for Ria's mum to eat significant amounts of raw spinach

salad. The results are usually very rapid -- the usual being that the

milk often flows from the breast spontaneously!.

 

This works very well for milk shortage in any stage of breastfeeding

Much love and good luck

Mike and Stephie

Prema Ayurveda

Auckland New Zealand

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mike and Sephie, Dhara,

 

I'd avoid this recipe if at all possible. We may choose to do

anything that works if that is all we have, and certainly spinach is

readily available in most places. But first few days it is not only

very valuable to avoid such heat producing vegetables as dark leafy

vegetables (until the lochia has receded to second stage, at least,

one of my teachers says about 10 days on these foods) but that raw

spinach salad is SURE to upset both mom and Baby tummies with tons of

gas.

 

Most potent lactation supports outside of the recs Vicky has offered

are the herb Shatavari (wild Asparagus root) also available through

chinese pharmacists/herb stores under a different name. Latin name

asparagus racemosis, they will recognize. We usually start with this

one around 9 or 10 days (and the 10 day growth spurt), or if before

certain with strong digestive support along with, even black pepper.

Long pepper/pippali, ginger, cardamom, some nutmeg if bowels are

moving 2-3 times a day, clove, those kinds of things will help her

slow digestive fire rekindle and be able to use the shatavari or other

herbs.

 

I have not had chance to use the goat's rue, which I hear is also very

potent, but do not know other properties. The thistle varieties need

to be respected also for their vata increasing bitterness (bitter is

from air and space element, creating increase of cold, gas, dryness,

disconnected and empty expereinces) promoting properties in addition

to their strong lactaton enhancement - in other words, create balance

as needed and take the mom's constitution aND imbalances into account.

 

Choose properties for soothing, warm, oily and moist together as much

as possible for experiences, internal and external. Though they may

not help her directly " make milk " they will support both the lactation

and let down, as well as relaxed approach to her mothering that

enhances good breastfeeding and milk production. If the docs are

listening, they may offer some temporary supports for Baby in

transition if colostrum is not for some very unusual reason not

happening, or actual lactation delayed longer. Hydration and that

super rich food called colostrum are the main things to watch for with

baby.

 

Best -

Ysha

 

> Dear Dhara !

> Here's a tried and true and simple solution, which has worked

extremely well with the group of mothers with whom we have influence.

It's really simple Just arrange for Ria's mum to eat significant

amounts of raw spinach salad. The results are usually very rapid --