Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Greetings, This is Jahmanna I had to birth my baby who passed away just this past Saturday. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. My practioner has no clue as to why my baby passed as all seemed well physically untill we could not hear the heartbeat through the doppler. Then we used a small ultrasound he has in his office, and we could not see the heart movement. I went to get a ultrasound done on a bigger machine and nothing, my baby was gone. I delivered her vaginally using two medications to stimulate labor one being pitocen. By the grace of god I was able to birth her in the hospital in a private room alone with my husband. She was born in my hands. My husband and I were the only ones to touch her till they took her to the morge. I am sorry for all the detail but i am bewildered as to how to support my health after now that she is gone so soon , the birthing process has always been complete and healthy expierence for me and now i just don't know . MY breasts are full of milk, I don't know if I should leave it to go away or be proactive in drying it up. Any advice as to what I should do for any of these issue after something like this happens would be a great relif and blessing. Thank You, Jahmanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Jahmanna, I'm so sorry this happened. I hope you and your husband have lots of love and support right now. I have attached a flyer I give out (as a postpartum doula/lactation consultant) re: suppression of lactation. I hope it helps. Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD Postpartum Care Services Rogue Valley Area, Oregon http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/ http://vmyork.ikarma.com/id269 - omega4one ayurveda Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:18 PM PerinatalAyurveda forum Postpartum after 26 weeks Greetings, This is Jahmanna I had to birth my baby who passed away just this past Saturday. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. My practioner has no clue as to why my baby passed as all seemed well physically untill we could not hear the heartbeat through the doppler. Then we used a small ultrasound he has in his office, and we could not see the heart movement. I went to get a ultrasound done on a bigger machine and nothing, my baby was gone. I delivered her vaginally using two medications to stimulate labor one being pitocen. By the grace of god I was able to birth her in the hospital in a private room alone with my husband. She was born in my hands. My husband and I were the only ones to touch her till they took her to the morge. I am sorry for all the detail but i am bewildered as to how to support my health after now that she is gone so soon , the birthing process has always been complete and healthy expierence for me and now i just don't know . MY breasts are full of milk, I don't know if I should leave it to go away or be proactive in drying it up. Any advice as to what I should do for any of these issue after something like this happens would be a great relif and blessing. Thank You, Jahmanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Dearest Jahmanna, Sending you love during this time. I am so sorry to hear your news. I am grateful you have this group of experts to offer you advice. And, like Vicky says I hope you and your partner have lots of love and support now. Sincerely, Kim Luchau Kaua'i, Hawaii --- VMYORK wrote: > Jahmanna, I'm so sorry this happened. I hope you and > your husband have lots of love and support right > now. I have attached a flyer I give out (as a > postpartum doula/lactation consultant) re: > suppression of lactation. I hope it helps. > Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD > Postpartum Care Services > Rogue Valley Area, Oregon > http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/ > http://vmyork.ikarma.com/id269 > > - > omega4one > ayurveda > Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:18 PM > PerinatalAyurveda forum Postpartum after > 26 weeks > > > Greetings, > This is Jahmanna I had to birth my baby who passed > > away just this past Saturday. It was the hardest > thing I have ever > done. My practioner has no clue as to why my baby > passed as all > seemed well physically untill we could not hear > the heartbeat > through the doppler. Then we used a small > ultrasound he has in his > office, and we could not see the heart movement. I > went to get a > ultrasound done on a bigger machine and nothing, > my baby was gone. > I delivered her vaginally using two medications to > stimulate > labor one being pitocen. By the grace of god I was > able to birth her > in the hospital in a private room alone with my > husband. She was > born in my hands. My husband and I were the only > ones to touch her > till they took her to the morge. > I am sorry for all the detail but i am bewildered > as to how to > support my health after now that she is gone so > soon , the birthing > process has always been complete and healthy > expierence for me and > now i just don't know . MY breasts are full of > milk, I don't know if > I should leave it to go away or be proactive in > drying it up. > Any advice as to what I should do for any of these > issue after > something like this happens would be a great relif > and blessing. > Thank You, > Jahmanna > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hi Vicki; is set to not accept fliers. If you can cut and paste, or send to me privately, we can get the info up. I'd like to see it for sure. Blessings; Ysha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Thanks Vicki, for sharing your collection here: Early Suppression of Lactation *Engorgement itself causes a protein called feedback inhibitor of lactation (FIL) to accumulate in the mammary gland. This protein, along with reduced capillary blood flow and involution of the milk-secreting gland, leads to suppression of milk production. But should not be allowed to be prolonged to the point of pain. Extended engorgement can lead to mastitis and extreme pain *Vitamin B-6 600mg *Ice packs in the bra will decrease local pain and swelling *Ibuprofen or acetaminophen can reduce inflammation and provide pain relief. Antihistamines help a lot. *Supportive bra for large breasts or ace bandages. *Cabbage leaves seem to help some women, or Cabo cream *Ultrasound. See your local physical therapist. *Parsley, sage, black walnut, birth control pills, peppermint (try Altoids), dandelion root, Turmeric tea (antiflammatory/antihistamine) may help dry up breastmilk. Red sage rubbed on breasts, Wild alumroot rubbed on breasts, Cinnamon tea, Parsley leaf tea, and Huckleberry leaf tea. Essential oil of sage applied to breasts. I'd be favoring the turmeric, 1 tsp combined with either ginger, pippali or clove, about 1/3 tsp in a large cup (12-16 oz) 3X daily to help dry the supply Homeopathic: Bryonnia, one under tongue every 15 minutes. *Remove just enough milk to reduce the pressure in the breast, but not enough to empty them. Frequency and duration of pumping will vary from one woman to another depending on the amount of milk she is producing, and the time since the birth of her baby. A typical schedule might be: Day 1. pump for 5 minutes every 4-5 hours Day 2. pump every 6 hours for 3-5 minutes Day 3-7. pump just long enough to relieve discomfort *No nipple stimulation. It stimulates pituitary gland to make Prolactin/oxytocin. *Watch for mastitis *Oral contraceptives with estrogen may be prescribed. *Ayurvedic: You can also add essential oils to the protocols - Helichrysum is a powerful lymphatic decongestant. Others are grapefruit, myrtle, orange, tangerine, lemon, cypress and lemongrass. Dilute a bit with your massage oil. 3 drops cypress, 1 drop orange and 2 drops grapefruit in 1/2 gallon good drinking water with some grade b maple syrup optionally is very helpful lymphatic cleanse. Manual lymphatic drainage may help to, sometimes done by a physical therapist who does ultrasound on breasts. A woman who has a large amount of milk, either in storage or in production who wishes to donate milk to a milk bank can donate to the Human Milk Banking Association of North America. www.hmbana.org. *Mother may experience regret and depression after weaning. Baby may suffer emotionally. Don't offer/don't refuse for older baby. Use distraction, postponement, shorten the nursings, eliminate the least favorite nursing. Cold turkey is only for emergency situations. It is no longer suggested to use breast binders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Drs often have no clue as to why things do not take the course of their predictions. What happened with you brought the case of a distant relative in mind. ten years ago she delivered a boy with " spina bifida " . " boy may not last more than a week and let mother not feed him, as she may develop a bond, which will cause her trauma when he passes away " was the verdict of the Obstetrician. So baby was on formula and breast milk was stopped by a hormone injection. God thought otherwise! The boy survived five years, and the guilt complex (not been able to feed the boy and perhaps the cause of his ill-developed immune system) on part of mother caused her a breast cancer. She passed away in just three months after surgery! The boy was just four years old at that time. The case verifies Dr Hamer's theory on cancer. Donate your milk, but do not dry it up by intervention. ______________________ I had to birth my baby who passed away just this past Saturday. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Sometimes it helps a woman to donate her milk. She feels like she is doing something positive. Other times it reminds a woman of the baby she was denied and depresses her further. Pumping causes the milk production to increase and one has to then decide how long to continue. It is a personal decision. Vicky York, IBCLC, CPD Postpartum Care Services Oregon http://mypeoplepc.com/members/vmyork/ http://vmyork.ikarma.com/id269 - Shirish Bhate ayurveda Friday, February 29, 2008 12:22 AM PerinatalAyurveda forum Re: Postpartum after 26 weeks Drs often have no clue as to why things do not take the course of their predictions. What happened with you brought the case of a distant relative in mind. ten years ago she delivered a boy with " spina bifida " . " boy may not last more than a week and let mother not feed him, as she may develop a bond, which will cause her trauma when he passes away " was the verdict of the Obstetrician. So baby was on formula and breast milk was stopped by a hormone injection. God thought otherwise! The boy survived five years, and the guilt complex (not been able to feed the boy and perhaps the cause of his ill-developed immune system) on part of mother caused her a breast cancer. She passed away in just three months after surgery! The boy was just four years old at that time. The case verifies Dr Hamer's theory on cancer. Donate your milk, but do not dry it up by intervention. ______________________ I had to birth my baby who passed away just this past Saturday. It was the hardest thing I have ever done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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